Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:
 
 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.
 
 Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
 There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
 is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
 this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
 invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
 Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
 paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
 developers?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
 converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as 
 
 PDF (ps2pdf)
 
 and entered this code for Converter:
 
 sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
 This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added an 
option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, and 
preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the on-screen 
size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like and 
which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread does 
not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors - graphics 
background to white, but that leaves the question of why the GhostSript 
approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not render the PDF 
with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting a solid 
background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger than it is 
and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave that to 
solve another day.

So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

Again, thanks.

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.

The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
MBA):

sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
--setProperty format png $$i --out $$o


2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
 wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
 through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
 cropping near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
 pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
 elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS
 file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying
 to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
 developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
 following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From
 format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
 like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
 thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors
 - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
 (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
 appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
 PDF, but I'll leave that to solve another day.

 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

 Again, thanks.

 Jerry




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
 generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
 gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.

 The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
 MBA):

 sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty
 format png $$i --out $$o


 2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
  wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
  through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
  cropping
  near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
  pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
  elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
  EPS
  file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
  should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
  to
  paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
  developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
  following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From
  format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
 like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
 thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors
 - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
 (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
 appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF,
 but I'll leave that to solve another day.

 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

 Again, thanks.

 Jerry

Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
which appears to be common on Macs?
A good place might be:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I tried to edit the page but the password LyX does not seem to work.


2013/12/4 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org

 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
  Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
  generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
  gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
 
  The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
  MBA):
 
  sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
 --setProperty
  format png $$i --out $$o
 
 
  2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:
 
  
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
  
  
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
 
   wrote:
  
   Try the solution given here…
   http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
   which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
  
   It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
   through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
 cropping
   near impossible.
  
   Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
  
   There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
   pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
   elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created
 an EPS
   file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
  
   Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your
 fix
   should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are
 trying to
   paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to
 the
   developers?
  
   Jerry
  
  
   As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
   following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the
 From
   format as
  
   PDF (ps2pdf)
  
   and entered this code for Converter:
  
   sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
  
   This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
 
  Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's
 built-in
  image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I
 added
  an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for
 me,
  and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale
 the
  on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
 
  In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
  like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in
 the
  thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel -
 Colors
  - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
  GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did
 not
  render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
  (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
  appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
 PDF,
  but I'll leave that to solve another day.
 
  So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
 
  sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
 
  Again, thanks.
 
  Jerry

 Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
 which appears to be common on Macs?
 A good place might be:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac

 Best,

 Scott




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it 
 generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the 
 gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
 
 The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my MBA):
 
 sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty 
 format png $$i --out $$o

I don't see what the effect of dpiHeight and dpiWidth is. I tried several 
different values and saw no change in the rendered graphic.

FWIW, this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density 
can help you to easily find the pixels per inch or centimeter of your display. 
My MacBook Pro is 110 dpi. Of course you could do Apple Menu - About This Mac 
and do the math yourself.

Jerry

P.S. I also tried to edit the wiki the found the given password didn't work.
 
 
 2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu 
  wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion 
  through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
  cropping near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter 
  pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and 
  elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
  EPS file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
  should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
  to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
  developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
  converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
 
 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added 
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, 
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the 
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
 
 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like 
 and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread 
 does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors - 
 graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the 
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not 
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting 
 a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger 
 than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave 
 that to solve another day.
 
 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
 
 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
 
 Again, thanks.
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:
 
 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.
 
 Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
 There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
 is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
 this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
 invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
 Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
 paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
 developers?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
 converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as 
 
 PDF (ps2pdf)
 
 and entered this code for Converter:
 
 sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
 This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added an 
option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, and 
preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the on-screen 
size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like and 
which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread does 
not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors - graphics 
background to white, but that leaves the question of why the GhostSript 
approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not render the PDF 
with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting a solid 
background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger than it is 
and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave that to 
solve another day.

So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

Again, thanks.

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.

The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
MBA):

sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
--setProperty format png $$i --out $$o


2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
 wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
 through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
 cropping near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
 pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
 elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS
 file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying
 to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
 developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
 following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From
 format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
 like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
 thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors
 - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
 (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
 appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
 PDF, but I'll leave that to solve another day.

 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

 Again, thanks.

 Jerry




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
 generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
 gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.

 The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
 MBA):

 sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty
 format png $$i --out $$o


 2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:

 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
  wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
  through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
  cropping
  near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
  pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
  elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
  EPS
  file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
  should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
  to
  paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
  developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
  following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From
  format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
 like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
 thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors
 - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
 (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
 appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF,
 but I'll leave that to solve another day.

 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

 Again, thanks.

 Jerry

Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
which appears to be common on Macs?
A good place might be:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I tried to edit the page but the password LyX does not seem to work.


2013/12/4 Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org

 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
  Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
  generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
  gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
 
  The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
  MBA):
 
  sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
 --setProperty
  format png $$i --out $$o
 
 
  2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:
 
  
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
  
  
   On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu
 
   wrote:
  
   Try the solution given here…
   http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
   which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
  
   It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
   through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
 cropping
   near impossible.
  
   Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
  
   There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
   pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
   elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created
 an EPS
   file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
  
   Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your
 fix
   should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are
 trying to
   paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to
 the
   developers?
  
   Jerry
  
  
   As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
   following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the
 From
   format as
  
   PDF (ps2pdf)
  
   and entered this code for Converter:
  
   sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
  
   This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
 
  Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's
 built-in
  image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I
 added
  an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for
 me,
  and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale
 the
  on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
 
  In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
  like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in
 the
  thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel -
 Colors
  - graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
  GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did
 not
  render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
  (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
  appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
 PDF,
  but I'll leave that to solve another day.
 
  So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
 
  sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
 
  Again, thanks.
 
  Jerry

 Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
 which appears to be common on Macs?
 A good place might be:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac

 Best,

 Scott




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it 
 generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the 
 gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
 
 The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my MBA):
 
 sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty 
 format png $$i --out $$o

I don't see what the effect of dpiHeight and dpiWidth is. I tried several 
different values and saw no change in the rendered graphic.

FWIW, this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density 
can help you to easily find the pixels per inch or centimeter of your display. 
My MacBook Pro is 110 dpi. Of course you could do Apple Menu - About This Mac 
and do the math yourself.

Jerry

P.S. I also tried to edit the wiki the found the given password didn't work.
 
 
 2013/12/4 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel noec...@uoregon.edu wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
 
  On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu 
  wrote:
 
  Try the solution given here…
  http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
  which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
  It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion 
  through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
  cropping near impossible.
 
  Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
  There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter 
  pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and 
  elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
  EPS file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
  Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
  should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
  to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
  developers?
 
  Jerry
 
 
  As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
  converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as
 
  PDF (ps2pdf)
 
  and entered this code for Converter:
 
  sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
 
  This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
 
 Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
 image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added 
 an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, 
 and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the 
 on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
 
 In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like 
 and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread 
 does not do. This is fixed by Preferences - Look and Feel - Colors - 
 graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the 
 GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not 
 render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting 
 a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger 
 than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave 
 that to solve another day.
 
 So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
 
 sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
 
 Again, thanks.
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel  wrote:

> 
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane  wrote:
>> 
>>> Try the solution given here…
>>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
>>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
>>> 
>>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
>>> eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
>>> impossible.
>> 
>> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
>> 
>> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
>> is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
>> this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
>> invalid. Is this a known problem?
>> 
>> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
>> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
>> paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
>> developers?
>> 
>> Jerry
> 
> 
> As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
> converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the "From format" as 
> 
> PDF (ps2pdf)
> 
> and entered this code for "Converter":
> 
> sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
> 
> This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added an 
option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, and 
preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the on-screen 
size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)

In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like and 
which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread does 
not do. This is fixed by Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Colors -> graphics 
background to white, but that leaves the question of why the GhostSript 
approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not render the PDF 
with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting a solid 
background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger than it is 
and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave that to 
solve another day.

So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:

sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o

Again, thanks.

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.

The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
MBA):

sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
--setProperty format png $$i --out $$o


2013/12/4 Jerry 

>
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel  wrote:
>
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Try the solution given here…
> >>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
> >>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
> >>>
> >>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
> through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
> cropping near impossible.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
> >>
> >> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
> pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
> elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS
> file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
> >>
> >> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying
> to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
> developers?
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >
> >
> > As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
> following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the "From
> format" as
> >
> > PDF (ps2pdf)
> >
> > and entered this code for "Converter":
> >
> > sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
> >
> > This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
>
> Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
> image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
> an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
> and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
> on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
>
> In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
> like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
> thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Colors
> -> graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
> GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
> render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
> (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
> appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
> PDF, but I'll leave that to solve another day.
>
> So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
>
> sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
>
> Again, thanks.
>
> Jerry




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 wrote:
> Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
> generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
> gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
>
> The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
> MBA):
>
> sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty
> format png $$i --out $$o
>
>
> 2013/12/4 Jerry 
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Try the solution given here…
>> >>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
>> >>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
>> >>>
>> >>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
>> >>> through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
>> >>> cropping
>> >>> near impossible.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
>> >>
>> >> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
>> >> pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
>> >> elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
>> >> EPS
>> >> file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
>> >>
>> >> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix
>> >> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
>> >> to
>> >> paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the
>> >> developers?
>> >>
>> >> Jerry
>> >
>> >
>> > As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
>> > following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the "From
>> > format" as
>> >
>> > PDF (ps2pdf)
>> >
>> > and entered this code for "Converter":
>> >
>> > sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
>> >
>> > This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
>>
>> Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in
>> image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added
>> an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me,
>> and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the
>> on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
>>
>> In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
>> like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the
>> thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Colors
>> -> graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
>> GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not
>> render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
>> (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
>> appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF,
>> but I'll leave that to solve another day.
>>
>> So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
>>
>> sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
>>
>> Again, thanks.
>>
>> Jerry

Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
which appears to be common on Macs?
A good place might be:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I tried to edit the page but the password LyX does not seem to work.


2013/12/4 Scott Kostyshak 

> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
>  wrote:
> > Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it
> > generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the
> > gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
> >
> > The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my
> > MBA):
> >
> > sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600
> --setProperty
> > format png $$i --out $$o
> >
> >
> > 2013/12/4 Jerry 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane  >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Try the solution given here…
> >> >>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
> >> >>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion
> >> >>> through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen
> cropping
> >> >>> near impossible.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter
> >> >> pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and
> >> >> elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created
> an EPS
> >> >> file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your
> fix
> >> >> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are
> trying to
> >> >> paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to
> the
> >> >> developers?
> >> >>
> >> >> Jerry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the
> >> > following converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the
> "From
> >> > format" as
> >> >
> >> > PDF (ps2pdf)
> >> >
> >> > and entered this code for "Converter":
> >> >
> >> > sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
> >> >
> >> > This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
> >>
> >> Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's
> built-in
> >> image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I
> added
> >> an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for
> me,
> >> and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale
> the
> >> on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
> >>
> >> In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't
> >> like and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in
> the
> >> thread does not do. This is fixed by Preferences -> Look and Feel ->
> Colors
> >> -> graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the
> >> GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did
> not
> >> render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This
> >> (putting a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to
> >> appear bigger than it is and can cause centering problems in the output
> PDF,
> >> but I'll leave that to solve another day.
> >>
> >> So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
> >>
> >> sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
> >>
> >> Again, thanks.
> >>
> >> Jerry
>
> Any volunteers to write up a short Wikipedia paragraph for this issue,
> which appears to be common on Macs?
> A good place might be:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>



-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 4, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Murat Yildizoglu  
wrote:

> Thanks Jens and Jerry, I was not aware of this program (sips) and it 
> generates nice bitmaps indeed, and quite quickly in comparison with the 
> gs+convert solution that was rather slow on my macbook air.
> 
> The version I use is the following (adapted for the 128dpi display of my MBA):
> 
> sips  -s dpiHeight 128.0 -s dpiWidth 128.0 --resampleWidth 600 --setProperty 
> format png $$i --out $$o

I don't see what the effect of dpiHeight and dpiWidth is. I tried several 
different values and saw no change in the rendered graphic.

FWIW, this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density 
can help you to easily find the pixels per inch or centimeter of your display. 
My MacBook Pro is 110 dpi. Of course you could do Apple Menu -> About This Mac 
and do the math yourself.

Jerry

P.S. I also tried to edit the wiki the found the given password didn't work.
> 
> 
> 2013/12/4 Jerry 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jens Nöckel  wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Try the solution given here…
> >>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
> >>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
> >>>
> >>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion 
> >>> through eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen 
> >>> cropping near impossible.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
> >>
> >> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter 
> >> pdftops is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and 
> >> elsewhere in this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an 
> >> EPS file that was invalid. Is this a known problem?
> >>
> >> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
> >> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying 
> >> to paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
> >> developers?
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >
> >
> > As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
> > converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the "From format" as
> >
> > PDF (ps2pdf)
> >
> > and entered this code for "Converter":
> >
> > sips -s format png $$i --out $$o
> >
> > This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.
> 
> Thanks for that tip, Jens. I really like the idea of using OS X's built-in 
> image processing. However, this command scales the image by 200% so I added 
> an option to scale to a width of 560 pixels which seems comfortable for me, 
> and preserves the aspect ratio. (I know that I could use LyX to scale the 
> on-screen size manually but this is laborious and makes the image ugly.)
> 
> In addition, there is a pink background behind the image which I don't like 
> and which the GhostScript-and-convert command suggested earlier in the thread 
> does not do. This is fixed by Preferences -> Look and Feel -> Colors -> 
> graphics background to white, but that leaves the question of why the 
> GhostSript approach did not result in a pink background--I'l bet it did not 
> render the PDF with a solid background but left it transparent. This (putting 
> a solid background) can be an issue which causes the image to appear bigger 
> than it is and can cause centering problems in the output PDF, but I'll leave 
> that to solve another day.
> 
> So for the record, the sips command I'm using is:
> 
> sips --resampleWidth 560 --setProperty format png $$i --out $$o
> 
> Again, thanks.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
 I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but 
 not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
 able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
 to something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
 
 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics
 
 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.

I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without any 
error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format message in 
place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that it is 
Converting to a loadable format.)

When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
(see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made by 
the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript error: 
No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in Preview.

It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package 

FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which displays 
correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops command 
above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I thought I 
would mention it.

Jerry

 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
 contradicts what he says, try both :)
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
 I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
 but not the image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
 to something stupid?

 Jerry

 Hi Jerry,

 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

 Best,

 Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps

 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics

 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.

 I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
 any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
 superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
 it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format message 
 in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that 
 it is Converting to a loadable format.)

 When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
 (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
 converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
 by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript 
 error: No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in 
 Preview.

 It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package

 FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
 displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
 command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
 thought I would mention it.


Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. 
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, 
 I first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
 but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, 
 I am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why 
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a 
 preference to something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) 
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter 
 command is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
 
 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics
 
 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.
 
 I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
 any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
 superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to 
 insert it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format 
 message in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message 
 saying that it is Converting to a loadable format.)
 
 When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
 (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
 converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
 by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript 
 error: No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in 
 Preview.
 
 It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package
 
 FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
 displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
 command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
 thought I would mention it.
 
 
 Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
 reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
 than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

I see that pdftops is part of xpdf. My installed version of xpdf (via MacPorts) 
is 3.02 and pdftops is 0.20.5.

Does anyone know if there are known problems with these versions? Is it 
normally up to the LyX user to install these things? Surely I'm not the only OS 
X user to run into this problem (inserting PDF to LyX).

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
like PNG.

Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What
happens when you execute
convert -version
in the console?


2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but
 not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
 to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
 is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 Jerry

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the screen? 
 I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format like PNG.
 
 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
 happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?

MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
Features:  OpenCL   

Jerry
P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)

 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
  I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
  first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
  converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but 
  not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
  from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
  able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
  displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
  displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
  is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
  to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 Jerry
 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Hi Jerry,

It seems that convert in on your Path.
I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences
(Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder:
/opt/local/bin
If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
Maybe that could help?

Murat


2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:

 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.

 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console?
 What happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?


 MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
 Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
 Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
 Features:  OpenCL

 Jerry
 P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)



 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but
 not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
 to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
 is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 Jerry

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.

Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
If you go to Insert  Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
-dbg graphics and looking at the output.

Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
the bottom from_format:  pdf6
to_format:eps

begin output to terminal
The image loader can load the following directly:

frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): BW,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EXR,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PCX,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PSD,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RAS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGB,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGBA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): SGI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): TGA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): XCF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bmp,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bw,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): dds,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): eps,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): exr,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): gif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ico,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jp2,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpeg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): mng,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pcx,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pgm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pic,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): png,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ppm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): psd,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ras,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgb,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgba,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): sgi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svgz,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tga,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tiff,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xcf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xpm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xv,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (91): LyX recognises the following image formats:
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): bmp
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): gif
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pgm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): png
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): ppm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): svg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): tiff
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xpm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (100):

insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
graphics/epstools.cpp (54): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: 'filename'
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (379): [CacheItem::Impl::convertToDisplayFormat]
Attempting to convert image file:
/home/scott/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
with displayed filename: ~/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (386):
The file contains pdf6 format data.
graphics/GraphicsLoader.cpp (115): LoaderQueue: waking up
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (754): insetgraphics::latex: Filename =

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Stephen Buonopane]

Try the solution given here…
http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.

It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through eps 
subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
impossible.

 

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:

 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 3:49 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Hi Jerry,
 
 It seems that convert in on your Path.
 I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences 
 (Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder: 
 /opt/local/bin
 If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
 Maybe that could help?
 
 Murat

Thanks for that tip, Murat. I checked the path prefix as you suggest and 
/opt/local/bin is in fact listed, as is /usr/local/bin/ where a slightly older 
version of convert exists. Since /opt/local/bin is first in the list, 
presumably the convert there is used, but which one is used shouldn't matter, I 
suppose.

So the path list shouldn't be the problem.

Jerry

 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the 
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format 
 like PNG.
 
 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
 happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?
 
 MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
 Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
 Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
 Features:  OpenCL   
 
 Jerry
 P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)
 
 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
  I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
  first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
  converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
  but not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
  saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
  am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
  displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
  displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
  is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
  to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 Jerry
 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.
 
 Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
 not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
 screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
 If you go to Insert  Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
 it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
 -dbg graphics and looking at the output.
 
 Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
 the bottom from_format:  pdf6
 to_format:eps
 
snip
 
 Scott

Scott, I ran LyX with the -dbg graphics command and got the following output. 
Not sure what to make of it but there seems to be a lot of complaining. FWIW I 
ran it again with spaces removed from path names and got the same result.

Jerry


Last login: Tue Dec  3 14:16:34 on ttys004
Hello, Jerry. Your profile is at ~/.profile.
MBPro:bin jerrybauck$ cd 
/Applications/Words/LyXOuterFolder/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS 
MBPro:MacOS jerrybauck$ ./lyx -dbg graphics
Setting debug level to graphics
Debugging `graphics' (Graphics conversion and loading)
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: agr
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
Format.cpp (147):   will guess format from file extension: svg - svg
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.

Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.

There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops is 
broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in this 
thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
invalid. Is this a known problem?

Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix should 
be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to paste 
PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the developers?

Jerry

 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:
 
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jens Nöckel]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:

 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:
 
 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.
 
 Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
 There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
 is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
 this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
 invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
 Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
 paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
 developers?
 
 Jerry


As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as 

PDF (ps2pdf)

and entered this code for Converter:

sips -s format png $$i --out $$o

This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
 I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but 
 not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
 able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
 to something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
 
 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics
 
 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.

I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without any 
error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format message in 
place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that it is 
Converting to a loadable format.)

When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
(see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made by 
the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript error: 
No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in Preview.

It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package 

FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which displays 
correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops command 
above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I thought I 
would mention it.

Jerry

 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
 contradicts what he says, try both :)
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
 I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
 but not the image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
 to something stupid?

 Jerry

 Hi Jerry,

 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

 Best,

 Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps

 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics

 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.

 I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
 any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
 superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
 it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format message 
 in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that 
 it is Converting to a loadable format.)

 When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
 (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
 converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
 by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript 
 error: No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in 
 Preview.

 It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package

 FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
 displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
 command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
 thought I would mention it.


Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. 
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, 
 I first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
 but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, 
 I am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why 
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a 
 preference to something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) 
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter 
 command is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
 file. For example, you could run:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
 
 To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
 could do the following:
 lyx -dbg graphics
 
 I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
 Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
 path. Hopefully you know.
 
 I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
 any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
 superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to 
 insert it into my document, I get the Error converting to loadable format 
 message in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message 
 saying that it is Converting to a loadable format.)
 
 When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
 (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
 converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
 by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports Warning PostScript 
 error: No PDF was produced, and there is in fact no image displayed in 
 Preview.
 
 It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package
 
 FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
 displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
 command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
 thought I would mention it.
 
 
 Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
 reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
 than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

I see that pdftops is part of xpdf. My installed version of xpdf (via MacPorts) 
is 3.02 and pdftops is 0.20.5.

Does anyone know if there are known problems with these versions? Is it 
normally up to the LyX user to install these things? Surely I'm not the only OS 
X user to run into this problem (inserting PDF to LyX).

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
like PNG.

Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What
happens when you execute
convert -version
in the console?


2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but
 not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
 to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
 is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 Jerry

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the screen? 
 I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format like PNG.
 
 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
 happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?

MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
Features:  OpenCL   

Jerry
P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)

 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
  I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
  first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
  converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but 
  not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
  from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
  able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
  displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
  displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
  is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
  to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 Jerry
 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Hi Jerry,

It seems that convert in on your Path.
I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences
(Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder:
/opt/local/bin
If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
Maybe that could help?

Murat


2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:

 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.

 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console?
 What happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?


 MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
 Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
 Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
 Features:  OpenCL

 Jerry
 P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)



 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net


 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
 When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
 first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error
 converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but
 not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
 saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
 am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why
 it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
 to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
 - EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
 is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

 Jerry

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.

Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
If you go to Insert  Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
-dbg graphics and looking at the output.

Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
the bottom from_format:  pdf6
to_format:eps

begin output to terminal
The image loader can load the following directly:

frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): BW,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EXR,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PCX,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PSD,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RAS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGB,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGBA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): SGI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): TGA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): XCF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bmp,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bw,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): dds,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): eps,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): exr,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): gif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ico,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jp2,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpeg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): mng,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pcx,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pgm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pic,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): png,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ppm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): psd,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ras,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgb,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgba,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): sgi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svgz,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tga,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tiff,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xcf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xpm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xv,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (91): LyX recognises the following image formats:
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): bmp
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): gif
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pgm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): png
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): ppm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): svg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): tiff
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xpm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (100):

insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
graphics/epstools.cpp (54): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: 'filename'
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (379): [CacheItem::Impl::convertToDisplayFormat]
Attempting to convert image file:
/home/scott/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
with displayed filename: ~/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (386):
The file contains pdf6 format data.
graphics/GraphicsLoader.cpp (115): LoaderQueue: waking up
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (754): insetgraphics::latex: Filename =

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Stephen Buonopane]

Try the solution given here…
http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.

It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through eps 
subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
impossible.

 

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:

 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 3:49 AM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 Hi Jerry,
 
 It seems that convert in on your Path.
 I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences 
 (Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder: 
 /opt/local/bin
 If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
 Maybe that could help?
 
 Murat

Thanks for that tip, Murat. I checked the path prefix as you suggest and 
/opt/local/bin is in fact listed, as is /usr/local/bin/ where a slightly older 
version of convert exists. Since /opt/local/bin is first in the list, 
presumably the convert there is used, but which one is used shouldn't matter, I 
suppose.

So the path list shouldn't be the problem.

Jerry

 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the 
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format 
 like PNG.
 
 Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
 happens when you execute
 convert -version
 in the console?
 
 MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
 Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
 Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
 Features:  OpenCL   
 
 Jerry
 P.S. I'll be offline for a few hours beginning now. 8^)
 
 
 
 2013/12/3 Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
  I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
  I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
  first see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error 
  converting to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed 
  but not the image.
 
  I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
  saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
  am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
  displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
  displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
  I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
  is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
  to something stupid?
 
  Jerry
 
  Hi Jerry,
 
  I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
  is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
  and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
  For me the command is:
  pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
  Best,
 
  Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
 
 Jerry
 
 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:
 Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
 screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
 like PNG.
 
 Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
 not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
 screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
 If you go to Insert  Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
 it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
 -dbg graphics and looking at the output.
 
 Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
 the bottom from_format:  pdf6
 to_format:eps
 
snip
 
 Scott

Scott, I ran LyX with the -dbg graphics command and got the following output. 
Not sure what to make of it but there seems to be a lot of complaining. FWIW I 
ran it again with spaces removed from path names and got the same result.

Jerry


Last login: Tue Dec  3 14:16:34 on ttys004
Hello, Jerry. Your profile is at ~/.profile.
MBPro:bin jerrybauck$ cd 
/Applications/Words/LyXOuterFolder/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS 
MBPro:MacOS jerrybauck$ ./lyx -dbg graphics
Setting debug level to graphics
Debugging `graphics' (Graphics conversion and loading)
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: agr
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
Format.cpp (147):   will guess format from file extension: svg - svg
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:

 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.

Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.

There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops is 
broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in this 
thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
invalid. Is this a known problem?

Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix should 
be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to paste 
PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the developers?

Jerry

 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:
 
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jens Nöckel]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:

 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane sbuon...@bucknell.edu wrote:
 
 Try the solution given here…
 http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
 which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
 
 It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
 eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
 impossible.
 
 Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
 
 There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
 is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
 this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
 invalid. Is this a known problem?
 
 Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
 should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
 paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
 developers?
 
 Jerry


As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the From format as 

PDF (ps2pdf)

and entered this code for Converter:

sips -s format png $$i --out $$o

This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
 I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
 first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error 
 converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but 
 not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
 able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
 displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
 displayed correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
 to something stupid?
 
 Jerry
>>> 
>>> Hi Jerry,
>>> 
>>> I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
>>> is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
>>> and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
>>> For me the command is:
>>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Scott
>> 
>> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> 
>> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
> 
> OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
> file. For example, you could run:
> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
> 
> To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
> could do the following:
> lyx -dbg graphics
> 
> I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
> Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
> path. Hopefully you know.

I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without any 
error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
it into my document, I get the "Error converting to loadable format" message in 
place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that it is 
"Converting to a loadable format".)

When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
(see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made by 
the above command in Preview, it fails and reports "Warning PostScript error: 
No PDF was produced," and there is in fact no image displayed in Preview.

It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package 

FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which displays 
correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops command 
above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I thought I 
would mention it.

Jerry

> 
>> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
> 
> Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
> contradicts what he says, try both :)
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
> I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
> first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error 
> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed 
> but not the image.
>
> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
> saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
> am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
>
> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
> is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
> to something stupid?
>
> Jerry

 Hi Jerry,

 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
 and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

 Best,

 Scott
>>>
>>> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> 
>>> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
>>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
>>
>> OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
>> file. For example, you could run:
>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
>>
>> To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
>> could do the following:
>> lyx -dbg graphics
>>
>> I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
>> Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
>> path. Hopefully you know.
>
> I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
> any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
> superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to insert 
> it into my document, I get the "Error converting to loadable format" message 
> in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message saying that 
> it is "Converting to a loadable format".)
>
> When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
> (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
> converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
> by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports "Warning PostScript 
> error: No PDF was produced," and there is in fact no image displayed in 
> Preview.
>
> It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package
>
> FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
> displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
> command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
> thought I would mention it.
>

Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry  wrote:
 
 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
 
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. 
>> When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, 
>> I first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error 
>> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed 
>> but not the image.
>> 
>> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
>> saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, 
>> I am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
>> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
>> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
>> 
>> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why 
>> it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a 
>> preference to something stupid?
>> 
>> Jerry
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
> is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
> and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
> For me the command is:
> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott
 
 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) 
 -> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter 
 command is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
>>> 
>>> OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
>>> file. For example, you could run:
>>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps
>>> 
>>> To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
>>> could do the following:
>>> lyx -dbg graphics
>>> 
>>> I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
>>> Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
>>> path. Hopefully you know.
>> 
>> I ran the command that you suggested and a new EPS file was created without 
>> any error code reported. I examined it in a text editor and it at least 
>> superficially looks like a valid EPS file. However, when I then try to 
>> insert it into my document, I get the "Error converting to loadable format" 
>> message in place of the image. (I don't notice the intermediate message 
>> saying that it is "Converting to a loadable format".)
>> 
>> When I attempt to open the EPS which was originally exported by Mathematica 
>> (see my original post) with Apple's Preview.app, it succeeds (by itself 
>> converting the EPS to PDF). However, when I attempt to open the new EPS made 
>> by the above command in Preview, it fails and reports "Warning PostScript 
>> error: No PDF was produced," and there is in fact no image displayed in 
>> Preview.
>> 
>> It looks like pdftops is giving me a bad result. What package
>> 
>> FWIW, the original EPS which was exported from Mathematica (and which 
>> displays correctly in LyX) is 408 KB and the new one created by the pdftops 
>> command above is only 188 KB. I don't necessarily find this worrisome but I 
>> thought I would mention it.
>> 
> 
> Sounds like you've narrowed down the problem. I've heard of similar
> reports. You could try to use a different command (different program
> than pdftops) to do the conversion. I don't have experience with this.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

I see that pdftops is part of xpdf. My installed version of xpdf (via MacPorts) 
is 3.02 and pdftops is 0.20.5.

Does anyone know if there are known problems with these versions? Is it 
normally up to the LyX user to install these things? Surely I'm not the only OS 
X user to run into this problem (inserting PDF to LyX).

Jerry

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
like PNG.

Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What
happens when you execute
convert -version
in the console?


2013/12/3 Jerry 

>
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> >> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
> When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
> first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error
> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but
> not the image.
> >>
> >> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
> saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
> am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
> >>
> >> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why
> it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
> to something stupid?
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> > I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
> > is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
> > and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
> > For me the command is:
> > pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Scott
>
> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
> -> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
> is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
>
> Jerry
>
> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu  
wrote:

> Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the screen? 
> I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format like PNG.
> 
> Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
> happens when you execute
> convert -version
> in the console?

MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
Features:  OpenCL   

Jerry
P.S. I'll be "offline" for a few hours beginning now. 8^)

> 
> 
> 2013/12/3 Jerry 
> 
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> >> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
> >> I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
> >> first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error 
> >> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but 
> >> not the image.
> >>
> >> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
> >> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am 
> >> able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
> >> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
> >> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
> >>
> >> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
> >> is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
> >> to something stupid?
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >
> > Hi Jerry,
> >
> > I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
> > is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
> > and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
> > For me the command is:
> > pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Scott
> 
> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> 
> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Murat Yildizoglu]

Hi Jerry,

It seems that convert in on your Path.
I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences
(Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder:
/opt/local/bin
If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
Maybe that could help?

Murat


2013/12/3 Jerry 

>
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu <
> murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr> wrote:
>
> Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
> screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
> like PNG.
>
> Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console?
> What happens when you execute
> convert -version
> in the console?
>
>
> MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
> Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
> Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
> Features:  OpenCL
>
> Jerry
> P.S. I'll be "offline" for a few hours beginning now. 8^)
>
>
>
> 2013/12/3 Jerry 
>
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> >> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5.
>> When I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I
>> first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error
>> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but
>> not the image.
>> >>
>> >> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot
>> saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I
>> am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg
>> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is
>> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
>> >>
>> >> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why
>> it is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference
>> to something stupid?
>> >>
>> >> Jerry
>> >
>> > Hi Jerry,
>> >
>> > I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
>> > is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
>> > and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
>> > For me the command is:
>> > pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Scott
>>
>> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf)
>> -> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command
>> is pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
>
> Bureau : E-331
>
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>
> web: yildizoglu.info
>
>
>


-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
 wrote:
> Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
> screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
> like PNG.

Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
If you go to Insert > Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
-dbg graphics and looking at the output.

Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
the bottom "from_format:  pdf6
to_format:eps"

<>
The image loader can load the following directly:

frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): BW,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EPSI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): EXR,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PCX,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): PSD,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RAS,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGB,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): RGBA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): SGI,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): TGA,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): XCF,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bmp,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): bw,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): dds,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): eps,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): epsi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): exr,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): gif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ico,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jp2,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpeg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): jpg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): mng,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pcx,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pgm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): pic,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): png,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ppm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): psd,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): ras,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgb,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): rgba,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): sgi,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svg,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): svgz,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tga,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tif,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): tiff,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xbm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xcf,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xpm,
frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (215): xv,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (91): LyX recognises the following image formats:
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): bmp
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): eps
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): gif
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): jpg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): pgm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): png
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): ppm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): svg
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): tiff
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xbm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (97): ,
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (98): xpm
graphics/GraphicsCache.cpp (100):

insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
graphics/epstools.cpp (54): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp (347): [bb_Changed set to true]
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: 'filename'
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (145): Token: '\end_inset'
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (379): [CacheItem::Impl::convertToDisplayFormat]
Attempting to convert image file:
/home/scott/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
with displayed filename: ~/Desktop/WWS302_ECO359_Precept10_F13a.pdf
Format.cpp (378): Recognised Fileformat: pdf6
graphics/GraphicsCacheItem.cpp (386):
The file contains pdf6 format data.
graphics/GraphicsLoader.cpp (115): LoaderQueue: waking up
insets/InsetGraphics.cpp (754): insetgraphics::latex: Filename =

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Stephen Buonopane]

Try the solution given here…
http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.

It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through eps 
subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
impossible.

 

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:

> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
> the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting to 
> loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
> 
> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
> in other viewers.)
> 
> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
> something stupid?
> 
> Jerry
> 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 3:49 AM, Murat Yildizoglu  
wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
> 
> It seems that convert in on your Path.
> I do not know if this is enough, but the Path in my Lyx preferences 
> (Preferences/Paths/Path prefix) contains the MacPorts binary folder: 
> /opt/local/bin
> If it is not in your's, you could maybe add it and reconfigure Lyx.
> Maybe that could help?
> 
> Murat

Thanks for that tip, Murat. I checked the path prefix as you suggest and 
/opt/local/bin is in fact listed, as is /usr/local/bin/ where a slightly older 
version of convert exists. Since /opt/local/bin is first in the list, 
presumably the convert there is used, but which one is used shouldn't matter, I 
suppose.

So the path list shouldn't be the problem.

Jerry

> 
> 
> 2013/12/3 Jerry 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the 
>> screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format 
>> like PNG.
>> 
>> Jerry, is the ImageMagick command convert attainable from the console? What 
>> happens when you execute
>> convert -version
>> in the console?
> 
> MBPro:~ me$ convert -version
> Version: ImageMagick 6.8.0-2 2012-11-21 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
> Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
> Features:  OpenCL   
> 
> Jerry
> P.S. I'll be "offline" for a few hours beginning now. 8^)
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/12/3 Jerry 
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> >> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When 
>> >> I try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I 
>> >> first see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error 
>> >> converting to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed 
>> >> but not the image.
>> >>
>> >> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot 
>> >> saved from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I 
>> >> am able to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg 
>> >> displays incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is 
>> >> displayed correctly in other viewers.)
>> >>
>> >> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
>> >> is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference 
>> >> to something stupid?
>> >>
>> >> Jerry
>> >
>> > Hi Jerry,
>> >
>> > I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
>> > is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
>> > and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
>> > For me the command is:
>> > pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Scott
>> 
>> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> 
>> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
>> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>> 
>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>> France
>> 
>> Bureau : E-331
>> 
>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>> 
>> web: yildizoglu.info
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Murat Yildizoglu
>  wrote:
>> Scott, are you sure that Lyx uses EPS for showing the graphics on the
>> screen? I have had the impression that it was rather using a bitmap format
>> like PNG.
> 
> Not all formats are converted to .eps. If you insert a .png it will
> not be converted to a .eps. I agree that in the end to display on a
> screen a bitmap is more useful but I think that Qt takes care of that.
> If you go to Insert > Graphics and choose a .pdf, at least on Ubuntu,
> it is converted to a .eps. You can see this by starting LyX with lyx
> -dbg graphics and looking at the output.
> 
> Below is some useful information from the output. Note all the way at
> the bottom "from_format:  pdf6
> to_format:eps"
> 

> 
> Scott

Scott, I ran LyX with the -dbg graphics command and got the following output. 
Not sure what to make of it but there seems to be a lot of complaining. FWIW I 
ran it again with spaces removed from path names and got the same result.

Jerry


Last login: Tue Dec  3 14:16:34 on ttys004
Hello, Jerry. Your profile is at ~/.profile.
MBPro:bin jerrybauck$ cd 
/Applications/Words/LyXOuterFolder/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS 
MBPro:MacOS jerrybauck$ ./lyx -dbg graphics
Setting debug level to graphics
Debugging `graphics' (Graphics conversion and loading)
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: agr
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
Format.cpp (147):   will guess format from file extension: svg -> svg
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: eps
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (945): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (832): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
File type not recognised before EOF!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!
support/FileName.cpp (950): filetools(getFormatFromContents)
Couldn't find a known format!

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane  wrote:

> Try the solution given here…
> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
> 
> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
> eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
> impossible.

Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.

There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops is 
broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in this 
thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
invalid. Is this a known problem?

Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix should 
be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to paste 
PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the developers?

Jerry

> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Jerry wrote:
> 
>> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
>> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
>> see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting 
>> to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
>> image.
>> 
>> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
>> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
>> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
>> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
>> correctly in other viewers.)
>> 
>> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
>> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
>> something stupid?
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
> 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jens Nöckel]

On Dec 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Jerry wrote:

> 
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Stephen Buonopane  wrote:
> 
>> Try the solution given here…
>> http://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_pdf_graphics_in_lyx.php
>> which creates a direct conversion from pdf to png.
>> 
>> It solved a related problem for me in the past where the conversion through 
>> eps subtly changed the graphics dimensions making on screen cropping near 
>> impossible.
> 
> Thanks, Stephen! That has fixed the problem.
> 
> There remain some unanswered questions. It looks like the converter pdftops 
> is broken, at least on my machine. Your fix bypassed it, and elsewhere in 
> this thread I reported that a manual conversion created an EPS file that was 
> invalid. Is this a known problem?
> 
> Since PDF is truly a native file format on OS X, it seems that your fix 
> should be incorporated into LyX permanently because OS X users are trying to 
> paste PDFs into LyX very frequently. Have you suggested this fix to the 
> developers?
> 
> Jerry


As an alternative to Stephen's suggestion, you could also add the following 
converter for PDF to PNG. In my preferences, I chose the "From format" as 

PDF (ps2pdf)

and entered this code for "Converter":

sips -s format png $$i --out $$o

This uses the OS X built-in command sips instead of Ghostscript.

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?

 Jerry

Hi Jerry,

I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
For me the command is:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 -- Message transféré --
 De : Murat Yildizoglu 
 Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
 Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
 À : Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
 Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
 It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
 are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?

 Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
 graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

 Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - EPS 
which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is pdftops 
-eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

Jerry

P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?

 Jerry

 Hi Jerry,

 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

 Best,

 Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
file. For example, you could run:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps

To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
could do the following:
lyx -dbg graphics

I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
path. Hopefully you know.

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
contradicts what he says, try both :)

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX [RESEND]

[Jerry]

[Sorry for the re-post--the first one seems to have evaporated into the ether.]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 
 
 -- Message transféré --
 De : Murat Yildizoglu 
 Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
 Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
 À : Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
 Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
 It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
 are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?
  

 Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
 graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

 Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?

 Jerry

Hi Jerry,

I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
For me the command is:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 -- Message transféré --
 De : Murat Yildizoglu 
 Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
 Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
 À : Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
 Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
 It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
 are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?

 Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
 graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

 Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 Hi Jerry,
 
 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
 
 Best,
 
 Scott

Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - EPS 
which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is pdftops 
-eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

Jerry

P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
 see the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting 
 to loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
 image.

 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
 correctly in other viewers.)

 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
 is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?

 Jerry

 Hi Jerry,

 I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
 is being run, go to Tools  Preferences  File Handling  Converters
 and select PDF (graphics) - EPS
 For me the command is:
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

 Best,

 Scott

 Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) - 
 EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
 pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
file. For example, you could run:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps

To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
could do the following:
lyx -dbg graphics

I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
path. Hopefully you know.

 P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
contradicts what he says, try both :)

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX [RESEND]

[Jerry]

[Sorry for the re-post--the first one seems to have evaporated into the ether.]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr 
wrote:

 
 
 -- Message transféré --
 De : Murat Yildizoglu 
 Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
 Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
 À : Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net
 
 
 Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
 It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
 are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?
  

 Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
 graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

 Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
 I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
 try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
 the message Converting to loadable format and then Error converting to 
 loadable format. The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
 
 I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
 from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
 to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
 incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
 in other viewers.)
 
 I thought PDF was a native format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
 trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
 something stupid?
 
 Jerry
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
> the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting to 
> loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
>
> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
> in other viewers.)
>
> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
> something stupid?
>
> Jerry

Hi Jerry,

I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
For me the command is:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu  
wrote:

> -- Message transféré --
> De : Murat Yildizoglu 
> Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
> Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
> À : Jerry 
> 
> 
> Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
> It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
> are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?

> Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
> graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

> Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
> the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting to 
> loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
> 
> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
> in other viewers.)
> 
> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
> something stupid?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info
> 

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Jerry]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
>> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
>> see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting 
>> to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
>> image.
>> 
>> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
>> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
>> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
>> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
>> correctly in other viewers.)
>> 
>> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
>> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
>> something stupid?
>> 
>> Jerry
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
> is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
> and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
> For me the command is:
> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
> 
> Best,
> 
> Scott

Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> EPS 
which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is pdftops 
-eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

Jerry

P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:33 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Jerry  wrote:
>>> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
>>> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first 
>>> see the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting 
>>> to loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the 
>>> image.
>>>
>>> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
>>> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
>>> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
>>> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed 
>>> correctly in other viewers.)
>>>
>>> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it 
>>> is trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
>>> something stupid?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>
>> Hi Jerry,
>>
>> I believe that LyX converts PDFs to EPS files. To see the command that
>> is being run, go to Tools > Preferences > File Handling > Converters
>> and select "PDF (graphics) -> EPS"
>> For me the command is:
>> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Scott
>
> Thanks, Scott. I have an item in the Converters list called PDF (ps2pdf) -> 
> EPS which is probably the equivalent. In any case, the Converter command is 
> pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 $$i $$o, the same as yours.

OK then you might want to try running the command manually on the pdf
file. For example, you could run:
pdftops -eps -f 1 -l 1 myfile.pdf myfile.eps

To get more information on what LyX is doing in the background, you
could do the following:
lyx -dbg graphics

I forget how you're supposed to run the command from the terminal in a
Mac. I remember JMarc said something like you have to specify the full
path. Hopefully you know.

> P.S. Did you see Murat's comment in this thread?

Yes. What I'm telling you is just a guess so if something I say
contradicts what he says, try both :)

Best,

Scott

Re: Can't insert PDF image into LyX [RESEND]

[Jerry]

[Sorry for the re-post--the first one seems to have evaporated into the ether.]

On Dec 2, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Murat Yildizoglu  
wrote:

> 
> 
> -- Message transféré --
> De : Murat Yildizoglu 
> Date : mardi 3 décembre 2013
> Objet : Can't insert PDF image into LyX
> À : Jerry 
> 
> 
> Lyx needs to convert the graphic to a bitmap format to show it on the screen. 
> It seems that your installation is missing InageMagick or Ghostscript that 
> are generally used by lyx.

I use MacPorts (like the ports of BSD) which tells me that I have ImageMagick 
@6.8.0-2_0+q16 and ghostscript @9.06_1 installed and active. (The version 
designations are a little weird here because that's the way that MacPorts 
reports them.) Is there a path problem with LyX that is causing these not to be 
seen?
>  

> Your final PDF document should nevertheless compile and contain these 
> graphics if they are correct PDF files. 

The final document does indeed contain the PDF file.

Jerry

> Le mardi 3 décembre 2013, Jerry a écrit :
> I am unable to insert PDF image files into LyX 2.0.6 on OS X 10.8.5. When I 
> try to do this, in the area where the graphic would be displayed, I first see 
> the message "Converting to loadable format" and then "Error converting to 
> loadable format." The name of the file is then displayed but not the image.
> 
> I am trying this in a new LyX document. The graphic is a simple plot saved 
> from Mathematica in several file formats. Of those other formats, I am able 
> to successfully insert bmp, eps, gif, jpg, png and tiff. (svg displays 
> incorrectly in LyX as a black rectangle even though it is displayed correctly 
> in other viewers.)
> 
> I thought PDF was a "native" format for LyX, so I don't understand why it is 
> trying to convert the PDF file into anything. Have I set a preference to 
> something stupid?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
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> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info
>