Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-05 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 21:36 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

  So my question: How do I enter something like 
 
  \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} 
  
  in math mode?
 
 1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.
 
 2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math
 
 3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

Dear Guenther,

thanks a lot, your advice does the trick!

Yours

Tobias Hilbricht



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-05 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 21:36 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
 On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

  So my question: How do I enter something like 
 
  \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} 
  
  in math mode?
 
 1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.
 
 2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math
 
 3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

Dear Guenther,

thanks a lot, your advice does the trick!

Yours

Tobias Hilbricht



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-05 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 21:36 + schrieb Guenter Milde:
> On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

> > So my question: How do I enter something like 
> 
>  \text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}} 
>  
> > in math mode?
> 
> 1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.
> 
> 2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math
> 
> 3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

Dear Guenther,

thanks a lot, your advice does the trick!

Yours

Tobias Hilbricht



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Erez Yerushalmi
If I understood you correctly, this is very easy.

press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
in the same math box, just do space.

see below

\mbox{a text }andnowmath

erez



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Tobias Hilbricht [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Dear readers of this list,

 I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy) to write down some
 chemistry. I found the following hint in the LyX Wiki on using the LaTeX
 package mhchem in LyX math mode in order to preview the formulas on
 screen:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
 formulae)
 However, I am unable to reproduce the example mhchem.lyx given on that
 internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
 math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
 to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}, the
 cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
 reactions.
 If I type Ctrl-m to enter math mode and then press Ctrl-l to enter ERT
 \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} the cursor also jumps out of the text-box
 as soon as I enter a space after H+. Again, as a result, only single
 compounds are possible with preview.
 The LaTeX amsmath-package is available and checked in LyX document
 settings. It is possible to enter pure ERT like $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- =
 H2O}}$ and get it typeset by LyX/LaTeX, but then I have no preview.

 So my question: How do I enter something like \text{\ce{H+ + OH- =
 H2O}} in math mode?

 Thanks for helpful hints

 Yours sincerely

 Tobias Hilbricht





-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi


Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:24 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

 press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
 in the same math box, just do space.

Dear Erez,

thank you for your quick reply. I am afraid it is not that simple,
because what you suggested is just what I try to do with the following:

\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}

\ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.

So be so kind and tell me if you can do Ctrl-m Ctrl-m and type in the
macro mentioned above without the cursor jumping out of the mbox when
entering a space.

I can do what you said with simple text, but not with the macro above. I
am using. If it works for you, do you use LyX 1.5.5, perhaps on Ubuntu
8.04?

Yours Tobias Hilbricht


  internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
  math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
  to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}, the
  cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
  reactions.



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:45 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

 Then I'm really sorry.  I tried it with lyx 1.6.0 and \ce is not
 recognized. I probably need to load in the mhchem package.

Dear Erez,

I probably was not clear enough.

mhchem is a LaTeX package to write chemical compounds and reactions. \ce
is a macro of mhchem, so you have call for mhchem in LyX under Document
- Settings - Preamble.

I would like to enter mhchem macros in math mode rather than in plain
ERT, because then I have a preview. Somebody published in the LyX wiki a
little HowTo and an example file mhchem.lyx:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
formulae)

If you open mhchem.lyx with a plain text editor then that somebody
managed to get this line into *mhchem.lyx*:

\begin_inset Formula $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}}$

I can open mhchem.lyx with LyX and see a preview of the reaction. I can
copy and paste it in LyX and see a preview. But I cannot reproduce
typing this in with LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu 8.04 and I want to know if I
miss something, if it is a bug or a regression (perhaps it did work only
with older versions?).

I hope I could point out my problem?!

Yours sincerely

Tobias Hilbricht

 I think I don't really understand what equation you are trying to put
 it.


 \ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.






Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

 I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy)
...
 
 So my question: How do I enter something like 

 \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} 
 
 in math mode?

1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.

2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math

3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

(Tested with LyX 1.6.0 on Debian. AFAIK, this worked also in 1.5.
 In earlier Versions, the trick is to drag and drop the LaTeX-math expression
 with the mouse in a math box.)
 
BTW: 1.6.0 on Debian also allows entering spaces in Text-in-Math and
you leaves this mode with right arrow. Maybe upgrading to 1.5.7 helps
(if 1.6.0 is not an option).

Günter



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Erez Yerushalmi
If I understood you correctly, this is very easy.

press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
in the same math box, just do space.

see below

\mbox{a text }andnowmath

erez



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Tobias Hilbricht [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Dear readers of this list,

 I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy) to write down some
 chemistry. I found the following hint in the LyX Wiki on using the LaTeX
 package mhchem in LyX math mode in order to preview the formulas on
 screen:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
 formulae)
 However, I am unable to reproduce the example mhchem.lyx given on that
 internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
 math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
 to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}, the
 cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
 reactions.
 If I type Ctrl-m to enter math mode and then press Ctrl-l to enter ERT
 \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} the cursor also jumps out of the text-box
 as soon as I enter a space after H+. Again, as a result, only single
 compounds are possible with preview.
 The LaTeX amsmath-package is available and checked in LyX document
 settings. It is possible to enter pure ERT like $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- =
 H2O}}$ and get it typeset by LyX/LaTeX, but then I have no preview.

 So my question: How do I enter something like \text{\ce{H+ + OH- =
 H2O}} in math mode?

 Thanks for helpful hints

 Yours sincerely

 Tobias Hilbricht





-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi


Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:24 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

 press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
 in the same math box, just do space.

Dear Erez,

thank you for your quick reply. I am afraid it is not that simple,
because what you suggested is just what I try to do with the following:

\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}

\ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.

So be so kind and tell me if you can do Ctrl-m Ctrl-m and type in the
macro mentioned above without the cursor jumping out of the mbox when
entering a space.

I can do what you said with simple text, but not with the macro above. I
am using. If it works for you, do you use LyX 1.5.5, perhaps on Ubuntu
8.04?

Yours Tobias Hilbricht


  internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
  math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
  to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}, the
  cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
  reactions.



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:45 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

 Then I'm really sorry.  I tried it with lyx 1.6.0 and \ce is not
 recognized. I probably need to load in the mhchem package.

Dear Erez,

I probably was not clear enough.

mhchem is a LaTeX package to write chemical compounds and reactions. \ce
is a macro of mhchem, so you have call for mhchem in LyX under Document
- Settings - Preamble.

I would like to enter mhchem macros in math mode rather than in plain
ERT, because then I have a preview. Somebody published in the LyX wiki a
little HowTo and an example file mhchem.lyx:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
formulae)

If you open mhchem.lyx with a plain text editor then that somebody
managed to get this line into *mhchem.lyx*:

\begin_inset Formula $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}}$

I can open mhchem.lyx with LyX and see a preview of the reaction. I can
copy and paste it in LyX and see a preview. But I cannot reproduce
typing this in with LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu 8.04 and I want to know if I
miss something, if it is a bug or a regression (perhaps it did work only
with older versions?).

I hope I could point out my problem?!

Yours sincerely

Tobias Hilbricht

 I think I don't really understand what equation you are trying to put
 it.


 \ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.






Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

 I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy)
...
 
 So my question: How do I enter something like 

 \text{\ce{H+ + OH- = H2O}} 
 
 in math mode?

1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.

2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math

3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

(Tested with LyX 1.6.0 on Debian. AFAIK, this worked also in 1.5.
 In earlier Versions, the trick is to drag and drop the LaTeX-math expression
 with the mouse in a math box.)
 
BTW: 1.6.0 on Debian also allows entering spaces in Text-in-Math and
you leaves this mode with right arrow. Maybe upgrading to 1.5.7 helps
(if 1.6.0 is not an option).

Günter



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Erez Yerushalmi
If I understood you correctly, this is very easy.

press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
in the same math box, just do space.

see below

\mbox{a text }andnowmath

erez



On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Tobias Hilbricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Dear readers of this list,
>
> I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy) to write down some
> chemistry. I found the following hint in the LyX Wiki on using the LaTeX
> package mhchem in LyX math mode in order to preview the formulas on
> screen:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
> formulae)
> However, I am unable to reproduce the example mhchem.lyx given on that
> internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
> math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
> to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}, the
> cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
> reactions.
> If I type Ctrl-m to enter math mode and then press Ctrl-l to enter ERT
> \text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}} the cursor also jumps out of the text-box
> as soon as I enter a space after H+. Again, as a result, only single
> compounds are possible with preview.
> The LaTeX amsmath-package is available and checked in LyX document
> settings. It is possible to enter pure ERT like $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>>
> H2O}}$ and get it typeset by LyX/LaTeX, but then I have no preview.
>
> So my question: How do I enter something like \text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>>
> H2O}} in math mode?
>
> Thanks for helpful hints
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Tobias Hilbricht
>
>
>


-- 
Erez Yerushalmi
PhD Student
Warwick University, UK
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/research/phds/3rd_year/yerushalmi


Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:24 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

> press control-M and then control-M again.  When you want to return to math
> in the same math box, just do space.

Dear Erez,

thank you for your quick reply. I am afraid it is not that simple,
because what you suggested is just what I try to do with the following:

\ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}

\ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.

So be so kind and tell me if you can do Ctrl-m Ctrl-m and type in the
macro mentioned above without the cursor jumping out of the mbox when
entering a space.

I can do what you said with simple text, but not with the macro above. I
am using. If it works for you, do you use LyX 1.5.5, perhaps on Ubuntu
8.04?

Yours Tobias Hilbricht


> > internet site: When I type Ctrl-m Ctrl-m in order to get into text in
> > math mode, I end up in an mbox, and as soon as I enter a space after H+
> > to write something like this into that mbox: \ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}, the
> > cursor jumps out of the box. So I can only type single compounds, but no
> > reactions.



Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 04.12.2008, 16:45 + schrieb Erez Yerushalmi:

> Then I'm really sorry.  I tried it with lyx 1.6.0 and \ce is not
> recognized. I probably need to load in the mhchem package.

Dear Erez,

I probably was not clear enough.

mhchem is a LaTeX package to write chemical compounds and reactions. \ce
is a macro of mhchem, so you have call for mhchem in LyX under Document
-> Settings -> Preamble.

I would like to enter mhchem macros in math mode rather than in plain
ERT, because then I have a preview. Somebody published in the LyX wiki a
little HowTo and an example file mhchem.lyx:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXForX (see the point Chemistry - Typesetting
formulae)

If you open mhchem.lyx with a plain text editor then that somebody
managed to get this line into *mhchem.lyx*:

\begin_inset Formula $\text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}}$

I can open mhchem.lyx with LyX and see a preview of the reaction. I can
copy and paste it in LyX and see a preview. But I cannot reproduce
typing this in with LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu 8.04 and I want to know if I
miss something, if it is a bug or a regression (perhaps it did work only
with older versions?).

I hope I could point out my problem?!

Yours sincerely

Tobias Hilbricht

> I think I don't really understand what equation you are trying to put
> it.


> \ce{...} is a macro of the mhchem package.






Re: How to enter text in math mode?

2008-12-04 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2008-12-04, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:

> I am using LyX 1.5.5 on Ubuntu Linux 8.04 (Hardy)
...
 
> So my question: How do I enter something like 

 \text{\ce{H+ + OH- <=>> H2O}} 
 
> in math mode?

1. Type it as normal text in your paragraph.

2. Mark it and press Ctrl-M to convert to Math

3. Repeat (mark and Ctrl-M) to convert to Text-in-Math.

(Tested with LyX 1.6.0 on Debian. AFAIK, this worked also in 1.5.
 In earlier Versions, the trick is to drag and drop the LaTeX-math expression
 with the mouse in a math box.)
 
BTW: 1.6.0 on Debian also allows entering spaces in Text-in-Math and
you leaves this mode with right arrow. Maybe upgrading to 1.5.7 helps
(if 1.6.0 is not an option).

Günter