Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800 Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com
 suggested this:

Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

I lied Ray, it didn't work after all. It worked on a bodgied version
of a url, but when I got home and tried it on the real thing. No didn't
work.

Tried it as an ERT - but wouldn't allow it.

I just thought I better clarify this as someone else might find it in
the archives try it and wonder why it worked for me and will not work
for them.

Doesn't matter. I'll just use the URL as plain text and the reader can
copy and paste it into their browser address bar.

Thanks again for your time.
Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Allen Barker

On 06/03/2012 05:38 AM, Charlie wrote:


I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.


There's a good discussion on the page
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url

The solution to just add

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\\do\.\do\?}

to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
Postscript.  It lets Latex do a line break after a forward slash or
any alphabetic character.  I also added numbers and some punctuation
symbols, though a few are probably superfluous.  (Any character which
is not on the list but is in the URL seems to make the line breaks
overhang just slightly, by a character.)  The only downside seems to
be that the breaks are placed arbitrarily in the URL.

A different option would be to use \href directly in an ERT:

\def\ab{\allowbreak}
\href{http://longURL.com/thisIsALongStringWhichCanBreakBetweenWords}
{\texttt{http://longURL.com/this\ab Is\ab A\ab Long\ab String\ab
Which\ab Can\ab Break\ab Between\ab Words}}

Note that this allows breaks wherever the \ab is.  It also allows
for the text of the link to be different from the URL itself, so
you could just substitute some descriptive phrase in place of the
full URL in the second argument.  (Without \texttt it will be in
the same font as the surrounding text, just like a hyperlink.)
In pdfLatex the links are clickable, but even in Postscript they
seem to print and line-break OK.  Unfortunately, the Latex
\allowbreak command cannot be entered from the Insert  Hyperlink
dialog.







Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:43:50 -0400 Allen Barker
 allen.l.bar...@gmail.com suggested this:

There's a good discussion on the page
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url

The solution to just add

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\\do\.\do\?}

to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
Postscript.

Thank you Allen. As you recommend, that is a good discussion. 

I tried various ways of getting it to work from the suggestions and
finally got it working with this from the discussion:

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z}

Like you, I see that it works correctly in the pdf document but not in
postscript.

But that works well enough for my purpose.

Thank you again. It's much appreciated.

Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800 Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com
 suggested this:

Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

I lied Ray, it didn't work after all. It worked on a bodgied version
of a url, but when I got home and tried it on the real thing. No didn't
work.

Tried it as an ERT - but wouldn't allow it.

I just thought I better clarify this as someone else might find it in
the archives try it and wonder why it worked for me and will not work
for them.

Doesn't matter. I'll just use the URL as plain text and the reader can
copy and paste it into their browser address bar.

Thanks again for your time.
Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Allen Barker

On 06/03/2012 05:38 AM, Charlie wrote:


I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.


There's a good discussion on the page
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url

The solution to just add

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\\do\.\do\?}

to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
Postscript.  It lets Latex do a line break after a forward slash or
any alphabetic character.  I also added numbers and some punctuation
symbols, though a few are probably superfluous.  (Any character which
is not on the list but is in the URL seems to make the line breaks
overhang just slightly, by a character.)  The only downside seems to
be that the breaks are placed arbitrarily in the URL.

A different option would be to use \href directly in an ERT:

\def\ab{\allowbreak}
\href{http://longURL.com/thisIsALongStringWhichCanBreakBetweenWords}
{\texttt{http://longURL.com/this\ab Is\ab A\ab Long\ab String\ab
Which\ab Can\ab Break\ab Between\ab Words}}

Note that this allows breaks wherever the \ab is.  It also allows
for the text of the link to be different from the URL itself, so
you could just substitute some descriptive phrase in place of the
full URL in the second argument.  (Without \texttt it will be in
the same font as the surrounding text, just like a hyperlink.)
In pdfLatex the links are clickable, but even in Postscript they
seem to print and line-break OK.  Unfortunately, the Latex
\allowbreak command cannot be entered from the Insert  Hyperlink
dialog.







Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:43:50 -0400 Allen Barker
 allen.l.bar...@gmail.com suggested this:

There's a good discussion on the page
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url

The solution to just add

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\\do\.\do\?}

to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
Postscript.

Thank you Allen. As you recommend, that is a good discussion. 

I tried various ways of getting it to work from the suggestions and
finally got it working with this from the discussion:

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z}

Like you, I see that it works correctly in the pdf document but not in
postscript.

But that works well enough for my purpose.

Thank you again. It's much appreciated.

Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800 "Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com"
 suggested this:

>Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

I lied Ray, it didn't work after all. It worked on a bodgied version
of a url, but when I got home and tried it on the real thing. No didn't
work.

Tried it as an ERT - but wouldn't allow it.

I just thought I better clarify this as someone else might find it in
the archives try it and wonder why it worked for me and will not work
for them.

Doesn't matter. I'll just use the URL as plain text and the reader can
copy and paste it into their browser address bar.

Thanks again for your time.
Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Allen Barker

On 06/03/2012 05:38 AM, Charlie wrote:


I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an "insert URL" from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.


There's a good discussion on the page
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url

The solution to just add

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\&\do\.\do\?}

to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
Postscript.  It lets Latex do a line break after a forward slash or
any alphabetic character.  I also added numbers and some punctuation
symbols, though a few are probably superfluous.  (Any character which
is not on the list but is in the URL seems to make the line breaks
overhang just slightly, by a character.)  The only downside seems to
be that the breaks are placed arbitrarily in the URL.

A different option would be to use \href directly in an ERT:

\def\ab{\allowbreak}
\href{http://longURL.com/thisIsALongStringWhichCanBreakBetweenWords}
{\texttt{http://longURL.com/this\ab Is\ab A\ab Long\ab String\ab
Which\ab Can\ab Break\ab Between\ab Words}}

Note that this allows breaks wherever the \ab is.  It also allows
for the text of the link to be different from the URL itself, so
you could just substitute some descriptive phrase in place of the
full URL in the second argument.  (Without \texttt it will be in
the same font as the surrounding text, just like a hyperlink.)
In pdfLatex the links are clickable, but even in Postscript they
seem to print and line-break OK.  Unfortunately, the Latex
\allowbreak command cannot be entered from the Insert > Hyperlink
dialog.







Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-04 Thread Charlie
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:43:50 -0400 "Allen Barker
 allen.l.bar...@gmail.com" suggested this:

>There's a good discussion on the page
>http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3033/forcing-linebreaks-in-url
>
>The solution to just add
>
>\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g
>\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t
>\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G
>\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T
>\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z\do\0\do\1\do\2\do\3\do\4\do\5\do\6
>\do\7\do\8\do\9\do\_\do\%\do\&\do\.\do\?}
>
>to the preamble seems to work for me with pdfLatex, but not with
>Postscript.

Thank you Allen. As you recommend, that is a good discussion. 

I tried various ways of getting it to work from the suggestions and
finally got it working with this from the discussion:

\renewcommand{\UrlBreaks}{\do\/\do\a\do\b\do\c\do\d\do\e\do\f\do\g\do\h\do\i\do\j\do\k\do\l\do\m\do\n\do\o\do\p\do\q\do\r\do\s\do\t\do\u\do\v\do\w\do\x\do\y\do\z\do\A\do\B\do\C\do\D\do\E\do\F\do\G\do\H\do\I\do\J\do\K\do\L\do\M\do\N\do\O\do\P\do\Q\do\R\do\S\do\T\do\U\do\V\do\W\do\X\do\Y\do\Z}

Like you, I see that it works correctly in the pdf document but not in
postscript.

But that works well enough for my purpose.

Thank you again. It's much appreciated.

Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread Ray Rashif
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

 I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
 reference to it.

 The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
 margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

 The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
 doesn't stop at any margin.

 I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
 but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
 the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
 into a browser address bar.

 I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
 if it's just a link to the correct page.

 Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
 discussion.

 Thank you,
 Charlie
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Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?


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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread ariestao

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.

Thank you,
Charlie

Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

No Ray I did not, and have done so now and it works. Thank you very 
much for your help.


Charlie

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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread Ray Rashif
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

 I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
 reference to it.

 The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
 margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

 The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
 doesn't stop at any margin.

 I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
 but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
 the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
 into a browser address bar.

 I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
 if it's just a link to the correct page.

 Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
 discussion.

 Thank you,
 Charlie
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Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?


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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread ariestao

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie aries...@skymesh.com.au wrote:

I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an insert URL from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.

Thank you,
Charlie

Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

No Ray I did not, and have done so now and it works. Thank you very 
much for your help.


Charlie

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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread Ray Rashif
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie  wrote:
>
> I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
> reference to it.
>
> The way to stop a URL as an "insert URL" from running out over the
> margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.
>
> The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
> doesn't stop at any margin.
>
> I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
> but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
> the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
> into a browser address bar.
>
> I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
> if it's just a link to the correct page.
>
> Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
> discussion.
>
> Thank you,
> Charlie
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Re: I'm certain it has been discussed here previously..............

2012-06-03 Thread ariestao

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:42:25 +0800, Ray Rashif wrote:
On 3 June 2012 17:38, Charlie  wrote:

I'm certain it's been discussed here before, but I can't find a
reference to it.

The way to stop a URL as an "insert URL" from running out over the
margins into infinity. This happens in various document classes.

The first line of the Insert URL has the right idea, but the second one
doesn't stop at any margin.

I know it can be done easily without using the insert URL application,
but then the URL can't just be clicked on in the .pdf version to take
the reader to the location. Instead it needs to be copied and pasted
into a browser address bar.

I think it should be possible to show the URL in a different way, even
if it's just a link to the correct page.

Just thought I would ask if someone can point me to the location of the
discussion.

Thank you,
Charlie

Did you try explicitly loading the url package in preamble?

No Ray I did not, and have done so now and it works. Thank you very 
much for your help.


Charlie

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