Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
 default document were in Hebrew for me!
 
 However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
 individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
 correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
 (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
 punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

what language of the document did you set?

 I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
 cannot figure out what I must do:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
 http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
there :)


 Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
 on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

this is very probably script for older lyx version and iirc its only function
was to set language to hebrew...

pavel

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
 there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
 there :)

http://sites.google.com/site/hebrewlyx/home

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
 default document were in Hebrew for me!
 
 However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
 individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
 correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
 (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
 punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

what language of the document did you set?

 I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
 cannot figure out what I must do:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
 http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
there :)


 Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
 on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

this is very probably script for older lyx version and iirc its only function
was to set language to hebrew...

pavel

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
 there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
 there :)

http://sites.google.com/site/hebrewlyx/home

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
> default document were in Hebrew for me!
> 
> However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
> individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
> correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
> (the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
> punctuation at the "end" of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

what language of the document did you set?

> I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
> cannot figure out what I must do:
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
> http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
there :)


> Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
> on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

this is very probably script for older lyx version and iirc its only function
was to set language to hebrew...

pavel

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
> there is also page run by Ran Ruttenberg, but i have no idea whats written 
> there :)

http://sites.google.com/site/hebrewlyx/home

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

 I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
 Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
 RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
 it was a pain.

 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

 RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned
 beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what
 makes current support not usable.


I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the
2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need.

Thanks!


-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

 I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools  Preferences
 Language settings  RTL support?
 Liviu


I will be sure to enable that, thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
cannot figure out what I must do:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 5-7-2010 21:35, Dotan Cohen schreef:

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

   


This is visible in LyX itself ? (not in the dvi/pdf output ?)

Maybe, you can attach a screenshot ?

Vincent

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org wrote:
 Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

 I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
 Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
 RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
 it was a pain.

 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

 RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned
 beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what
 makes current support not usable.


I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the
2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need.

Thanks!


-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

 I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools  Preferences
 Language settings  RTL support?
 Liviu


I will be sure to enable that, thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
cannot figure out what I must do:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 5-7-2010 21:35, Dotan Cohen schreef:

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the end of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

   


This is visible in LyX itself ? (not in the dvi/pdf output ?)

Maybe, you can attach a screenshot ?

Vincent

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 2 July 2010 20:16, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes  wrote:
> Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :
>>
>> I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
>> Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
>> RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
>> it was a pain.
>>
>> Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
>> and filing bugs. Thanks.
>
> RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is planned
> beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about what
> makes current support not usable.
>

I don't really remember, it was some time ago. I will play with the
2.x code and ask here or file issues as I see need.

Thanks!


-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 3 July 2010 09:47, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
>> Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
>> and filing bugs. Thanks.
>>
> I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools > Preferences
>> Language settings > RTL support?
> Liviu
>

I will be sure to enable that, thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Dotan Cohen]

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the "end" of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

I have gone through the options and read through these documents but I
cannot figure out what I must do:
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HebrewOnLinux
http://sites.google.com/site/avivgoll/articles/hebrewenabledlyxonubuntu904

Note that the F12 script on the second link has no effect for me. I am
on Kubuntu 9.10 using Lyx 2.0.0svn (built today).

Thanks.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Op 5-7-2010 21:35, Dotan Cohen schreef:

I see that there is definitely RTL support, the Lyx interface and
default document were in Hebrew for me!

However, when I start a new document and type in Hebrew, each
individual word looks fine (the order of the letters in a word are
correctly RTL) but the words themselves are incorrectly ordered LTR
(the first word on the left, the last word on the right). Also, the
punctuation at the "end" of the sentence is incorrectly on the right.

   


This is visible in LyX itself ? (not in the dvi/pdf output ?)

Maybe, you can attach a screenshot ?

Vincent

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools  Preferences
 Language settings  RTL support?
Liviu

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
 Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
 and filing bugs. Thanks.

I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools  Preferences
 Language settings  RTL support?
Liviu

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
> and filing bugs. Thanks.
>
I have no experience with RTL, but have you tried Tools > Preferences
> Language settings > RTL support?
Liviu

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
it was a pain.

Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
and filing bugs. Thanks.


RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is  
planned
beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about  
what

makes current support not usable.

JMarc

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
it was a pain.

Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
and filing bugs. Thanks.


RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is  
planned
beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about  
what

makes current support not usable.

JMarc

Re: Is RTL a goal for 2.x?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 2 juil. 10 à 18:44, Dotan Cohen a écrit :

I have not been using Lyx as most of my documents are in an
Right-to-Left (RTL) language or at a minimum contain some RTL text. Is
RTL support planned for 2.x? I know that it was possible in Lyx 1 but
it was a pain.

Assuming that RTL is a goal then I will start testing the Lyx 2 branch
and filing bugs. Thanks.


RtL is supposed to be supported in 1.x and there is not much that is  
planned
beyond that AFAIK. It would help if you could be more specific about  
what

makes current support not usable.

JMarc