Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter wrote: Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and installed LyX 1.5.4 from deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./ as the wiki article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools - Reconfigure : then the error went away. Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. Thanks for your help. -- Philip
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:37:28PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and installed LyX 1.5.4 from deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./ as the wiki article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools - Reconfigure : then the error went away. Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. That normaly happens. If lyx detects that your $HOME/.lyx stuff has been created with an older version it will reconfigure automatically Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter wrote: Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and installed LyX 1.5.4 from deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./ as the wiki article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools - Reconfigure : then the error went away. Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. Thanks for your help. -- Philip
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:37:28PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and installed LyX 1.5.4 from deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./ as the wiki article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools - Reconfigure : then the error went away. Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. That normaly happens. If lyx detects that your $HOME/.lyx stuff has been created with an older version it will reconfigure automatically Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter wrote: Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and installed LyX 1.5.4 from "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./" as the wiki article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools -> Reconfigure : then the error went away. Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. Thanks for your help. -- Philip
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 06:37:28PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, > I removed the version of LyX 1.5.3 that caused this problem and > installed LyX 1.5.4 from "deb > http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo ./" as the wiki > article suggested, but the problem did not go away. I wasted a couple of > hours till it struck my sysadmin to run Tools -> Reconfigure : then the > error went away. > > Looks like it is a good thing to remind people to reconfigure LyX after > upgrading/reinstalling. A better thing would be to have the > reconfiguring built into the upgrade/reinstall process. That normaly happens. If lyx detects that your $HOME/.lyx stuff has been created with an older version it will reconfigure automatically Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:25:08PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, I got LyX 1.5.3 installed today from the deb package at http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3-1_i386_etch.deb . When I start up LyX and try to open any article (even the one at Help - Latex Configuration) I get the error message Strike. First public hit I think. and I am not able to get any output from LyX, as the message says. The configuration log (after I run Tools - Reconfigure) reports the report class and a lot of the other common classes as missing. The corresponding layout files are, however, present in /usr/share/lyx/layouts/ . And anyway my previous LyX installation (1.4.3) was working just fine before I to this upgrade done. Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. Cheers, Sven BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. Probably yes. Jürgen
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46:33AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. In my opinion it's a bad idea to distribute the package for the reasons I tried to explain in the original discussion. I don't feel that it's up to me to judge if it's still a valuable contribution that helps other people who know what they're doing. Of course one might consider the original post as a proof that the poster wasn't able to read and/or understand the implications of http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3_i386_etch.README which are of course a bit missleading because this package doesn't depend on anything. What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. To be honest even I contributed to this mess years ago with some more or less sane packages for the Connectiva distribution. So all in all I would remove all the checkinstall based packages. Cheers, Sven [1] Whatever proper means for the various system distribution. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:31:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). It's not that easy. Unstable/testing normaly get the packages within a few weeks. ATM Per is still the only DD in our packaging team so he needs to find some time to build and upload the package. That wasn't problem since we took it over about two years ago I think. The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. http://jbot.de/bIAki According to that I guess they'll release the next long time support release called hardy with 1.5.3. Dunno why they didn't pick up 1.5.4, maybe it's been to late in the release cycle or nobody cared. Maybe they didn't pick it because we've some strange build failure[1] on arm but they don't release for arm so that shouldn't matter for them. Anyway that's just wild guessing. Maybe someone on the list feels responsible and can explain the Ubuntu stuff a little bit more. Cheers, Sven [1] Eventually a compiler problem or a problem with the buildd, we're currently waiting for a rebuild with g++ 4.3. http://jbot.de/EjjBA -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Hi, Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... The packages are here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/ On http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian you'll find a link to http://emiscabpo.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/lyx-15x-and-145-backports/ telling you what to put in your souces.list so that you can apt-get install them. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. In this case the information about what to add to your sources.list is enough. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? I don't think so. People who know what they're doing will simply download the Debian source package and make the changes needed to build it on stable or one of the Debian derived distritbutions. It's mostly about reading how dpkg-buildpackage or debuild works if you're just building packages for your own. pbuilder is a bonus and makes it saver to not miss a build-dependency and is mandatory if you want to give the packages to other people. Beside that it's all in a public svn repo so that you can check it out aswell. Nearly every piece of information about the package can be reached from the PTS http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html As long as we keep up with the packaging for Debian I'd prefer that the pkg-lyx-devel group on http://alioth.debian.org is the central place for LyX packaging for Debian. We're always open for new contributers and new input so if someone would like to get something changed he can always submit bugreports or mail to the mailinglist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:25:08PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, I got LyX 1.5.3 installed today from the deb package at http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3-1_i386_etch.deb . When I start up LyX and try to open any article (even the one at Help - Latex Configuration) I get the error message Strike. First public hit I think. and I am not able to get any output from LyX, as the message says. The configuration log (after I run Tools - Reconfigure) reports the report class and a lot of the other common classes as missing. The corresponding layout files are, however, present in /usr/share/lyx/layouts/ . And anyway my previous LyX installation (1.4.3) was working just fine before I to this upgrade done. Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. Cheers, Sven BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. Probably yes. Jürgen
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46:33AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. In my opinion it's a bad idea to distribute the package for the reasons I tried to explain in the original discussion. I don't feel that it's up to me to judge if it's still a valuable contribution that helps other people who know what they're doing. Of course one might consider the original post as a proof that the poster wasn't able to read and/or understand the implications of http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3_i386_etch.README which are of course a bit missleading because this package doesn't depend on anything. What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. To be honest even I contributed to this mess years ago with some more or less sane packages for the Connectiva distribution. So all in all I would remove all the checkinstall based packages. Cheers, Sven [1] Whatever proper means for the various system distribution. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:31:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). It's not that easy. Unstable/testing normaly get the packages within a few weeks. ATM Per is still the only DD in our packaging team so he needs to find some time to build and upload the package. That wasn't problem since we took it over about two years ago I think. The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. http://jbot.de/bIAki According to that I guess they'll release the next long time support release called hardy with 1.5.3. Dunno why they didn't pick up 1.5.4, maybe it's been to late in the release cycle or nobody cared. Maybe they didn't pick it because we've some strange build failure[1] on arm but they don't release for arm so that shouldn't matter for them. Anyway that's just wild guessing. Maybe someone on the list feels responsible and can explain the Ubuntu stuff a little bit more. Cheers, Sven [1] Eventually a compiler problem or a problem with the buildd, we're currently waiting for a rebuild with g++ 4.3. http://jbot.de/EjjBA -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Hi, Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... The packages are here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/ On http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian you'll find a link to http://emiscabpo.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/lyx-15x-and-145-backports/ telling you what to put in your souces.list so that you can apt-get install them. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. In this case the information about what to add to your sources.list is enough. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? I don't think so. People who know what they're doing will simply download the Debian source package and make the changes needed to build it on stable or one of the Debian derived distritbutions. It's mostly about reading how dpkg-buildpackage or debuild works if you're just building packages for your own. pbuilder is a bonus and makes it saver to not miss a build-dependency and is mandatory if you want to give the packages to other people. Beside that it's all in a public svn repo so that you can check it out aswell. Nearly every piece of information about the package can be reached from the PTS http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html As long as we keep up with the packaging for Debian I'd prefer that the pkg-lyx-devel group on http://alioth.debian.org is the central place for LyX packaging for Debian. We're always open for new contributers and new input so if someone would like to get something changed he can always submit bugreports or mail to the mailinglist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:25:08PM +0530, Geevarghese Philip wrote: Hi, > I got LyX 1.5.3 installed today from the deb package at > http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3-1_i386_etch.deb . When I > start up LyX and try to open any article (even the one at Help -> Latex > Configuration) I get the error message Strike. First public hit I think. > and I am not able to get any output from LyX, as the message says. The > configuration log (after I run Tools -> Reconfigure) reports the report > class and a lot of the other common classes as missing. The > corresponding layout files are, however, present in > /usr/share/lyx/layouts/ . And anyway my previous LyX installation > (1.4.3) was working just fine before I to this upgrade done. Well it's a nice mess you got now. Please read http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian and consider to go back to the packages released with Debian/etch or use a proper backport. Cheers, Sven BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a mirror. JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a > mirror. Probably yes. Jürgen
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:46:33AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > BTW: Yes there is some sarcasm spread in this mail. > > Should we remove this .deb from our ftp site? The site above is just a > mirror. In my opinion it's a bad idea to distribute the package for the reasons I tried to explain in the original discussion. I don't feel that it's up to me to judge if it's still a valuable contribution that helps other people who know what they're doing. Of course one might consider the original post as a proof that the poster wasn't able to read and/or understand the implications of http://lyx.cybermirror.org/bin/1.5.3/lyx_1.5.3_i386_etch.README which are of course a bit missleading because this package doesn't depend on anything. What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to spot problems and maybe resolve them. To be honest even I contributed to this mess years ago with some more or less sane packages for the Connectiva distribution. So all in all I would remove all the checkinstall based packages. Cheers, Sven [1] Whatever proper means for the various system distribution. -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed > package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the > inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to > spot problems and maybe resolve them. If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:31:04PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What's missing is a policy with standards a contributed > > package has to fulfill to be accepted. I would start with the > > inclusion of a proper[1] source package so that there is a chance to > > spot problems and maybe resolve them. > > If we know that new versions will be available in a timely manner for > debian after release, then our policy will be as simple as refusing > checkinstall-based .debs (IMO). It's not that easy. Unstable/testing normaly get the packages within a few weeks. ATM Per is still the only DD in our packaging team so he needs to find some time to build and upload the package. That wasn't problem since we took it over about two years ago I think. The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will be integrated. Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. > What about Ubuntu? Are debian packages good enough? Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. http://jbot.de/bIAki According to that I guess they'll release the next long time support release called hardy with 1.5.3. Dunno why they didn't pick up 1.5.4, maybe it's been to late in the release cycle or nobody cared. Maybe they didn't pick it because we've some strange build failure[1] on arm but they don't release for arm so that shouldn't matter for them. Anyway that's just wild guessing. Maybe someone on the list feels responsible and can explain the Ubuntu stuff a little bit more. Cheers, Sven [1] Eventually a compiler problem or a problem with the buildd, we're currently waiting for a rebuild with g++ 4.3. http://jbot.de/EjjBA -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
Sven Hoexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The reason why people keep searching for packages from other sources > are the stable releases where only security and other serious fixes will > be integrated. > Part of the solution is backports.org which is run by DDs with a buildd > network for all major architectures. The problem there is that I'm not a > DD (yet) and Per is not interested in backports and my former sponsor for > backports.org decided to no longer sponsor backports.org uploads. > The workaround are the fine packages provided by Emilio. Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux packages we provide... > Ubuntu is another beast. I don't really understand how and when they > fetch packages from Debian and upload to the universe repository. I've > the feeling that there is nobody in charge to care for the package uploads > and bug reports. For some releases they even provide backports and for some > others not. I think we had at least two different people on the list who > did LyX uploads to Ubuntu. It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and packages from identified sources. Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian package, so that people can do it themselves? JMarc
Re: LyX 1.5.3 issue : article.layout not usable
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:48:05PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Hi, > Where are those fine packages? I am a bit lost among various linux > packages we provide... The packages are here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/emiscabpo/lyx15-bpo/ On http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnDebian you'll find a link to http://emiscabpo.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/lyx-15x-and-145-backports/ telling you what to put in your souces.list so that you can apt-get install them. > It would be nice with our new site to have a proper download area and > packages from identified sources. In this case the information about what to add to your sources.list is enough. > Would it help to carry with LyX the files needed to build a debian > package, so that people can do it themselves? I don't think so. People who know what they're doing will simply download the Debian source package and make the changes needed to build it on stable or one of the Debian derived distritbutions. It's mostly about reading how dpkg-buildpackage or debuild works if you're just building packages for your own. pbuilder is a bonus and makes it saver to not miss a build-dependency and is mandatory if you want to give the packages to other people. Beside that it's all in a public svn repo so that you can check it out aswell. Nearly every piece of information about the package can be reached from the PTS http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lyx.html As long as we keep up with the packaging for Debian I'd prefer that the pkg-lyx-devel group on http://alioth.debian.org is the central place for LyX packaging for Debian. We're always open for new contributers and new input so if someone would like to get something changed he can always submit bugreports or mail to the mailinglist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Sven -- If God passed a mic to me to speak I'd say stay in bed, world Sleep in peace [The Cardigans - 03:45: No sleep]
