Re: Ninja mode
2010/2/22 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common But LyX was not designed to reverse engineer LaTeX documents, so lot of sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. -- Manveru jabber: manv...@manveru.pl gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: Ninja mode
Well, yea. So what? It doesn't need to work all the time. If the Lyx compile button doesn't work anymore, but the make script still runs, that's good enough for me. By the way, the lyx importer is great. I imported several docuents which I consider quite complex, and sometimes after a few adaptations, often right away, they compile in lyx. Export is great, too. So what's the problem? :) Niko On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Manveru manv...@manveru.pl wrote: 2010/2/22 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common But LyX was not designed to reverse engineer LaTeX documents, so lot of sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. -- Manveru jabber: manv...@manveru.pl gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683
Re: Ninja mode
2010/2/22 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common But LyX was not designed to reverse engineer LaTeX documents, so lot of sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. -- Manveru jabber: manv...@manveru.pl gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: Ninja mode
Well, yea. So what? It doesn't need to work all the time. If the Lyx compile button doesn't work anymore, but the make script still runs, that's good enough for me. By the way, the lyx importer is great. I imported several docuents which I consider quite complex, and sometimes after a few adaptations, often right away, they compile in lyx. Export is great, too. So what's the problem? :) Niko On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Manveru manv...@manveru.pl wrote: 2010/2/22 Jose Quesada ques...@gmail.com +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common But LyX was not designed to reverse engineer LaTeX documents, so lot of sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. -- Manveru jabber: manv...@manveru.pl gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683
Re: Ninja mode
2010/2/22 Jose Quesada> +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. > That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common > > But LyX was not designed to "reverse engineer" LaTeX documents, so lot of sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. -- Manveru jabber: manv...@manveru.pl gg: 1624001 http://www.manveru.pl
Re: Ninja mode
Well, yea. So what? It doesn't need to work all the time. If the Lyx compile button doesn't work anymore, but the make script still runs, that's good enough for me. By the way, the lyx importer is great. I imported several docuents which I consider quite complex, and sometimes after a few adaptations, often right away, they compile in lyx. Export is great, too. So what's the problem? :) Niko On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Manveruwrote: > > > 2010/2/22 Jose Quesada >> >> +1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. >> That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common >> > But LyX was not designed to "reverse engineer" LaTeX documents, so lot of > sophisticated solutions are problematic for LyX import. > > -- > Manveru > jabber: manv...@manveru.pl > gg: 1624001 > http://www.manveru.pl > -- http://scg.unibe.ch/staff/Schwarz twitter.com/nes1983 Tel: +41 076 235 8683
Re: Ninja mode
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarz niko.schw...@googlemail.comwrote: How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss operation, and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the export (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But they could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. Regards, Thomas
Re: Ninja mode
+1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Thomas Steffen steffen.list.acco...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarz niko.schw...@googlemail.comwrote: How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss operation, and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the export (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But they could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. Regards, Thomas -- Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada
Re: Ninja mode
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarz niko.schw...@googlemail.comwrote: How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss operation, and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the export (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But they could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. Regards, Thomas
Re: Ninja mode
+1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Thomas Steffen steffen.list.acco...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarz niko.schw...@googlemail.comwrote: How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss operation, and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the export (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But they could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. Regards, Thomas -- Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada
Re: Ninja mode
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarzwrote: > How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? > I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss operation, and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the export (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But they could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. Regards, Thomas
Re: Ninja mode
+1, definitely the most important thing for me is good latex integration. That use case (cols use plain latex, you use lyx) is very common On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Thomas Steffen < steffen.list.acco...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Niko Schwarz >wrote: > > > How do you ninja lyx into your research groups? > > > > I agree this is a problem. Some lossless round trip collaboration between > LyX and pure LaTeX would be very useful. I tried doing this with export - > import - merge, but it did not produce the best results. > > Maybe the issue to address is that export - import is a very loss > operation, > and it should not be. Of course certain parts are not required in the > export > (LyX macros, disabled branches, LyX comments, and even LyX styles). But > they > could be hidden in comments and restored during the import. > > But I am sure there is more than one solution to this problem. > > Regards, > Thomas > -- Best, -Jose Jose Quesada, PhD. Max Planck Institute, Center for Adaptive Behavior and Cognition, Berlin http://www.josequesada.name/ http://twitter.com/Quesada