Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 18:06 -0700, Phil wrote:
 For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
  
 
  I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
  paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
  out as well.

Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
remove them, the presentation comes up normally.  

Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
ultimate goal, of course).

dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.

pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.

ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.

If I add orient=portrait then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
works fine and all is seen.  

I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.

I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
normal slide as well.

I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result. 


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
 documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
 putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
 remove them, the presentation comes up normally.  

 Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
 ultimate goal, of course).

 dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
 which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.

 pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.

 ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
 orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.

 If I add orient=portrait then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
 greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
 works fine and all is seen.  

 I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
 the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
 except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
 creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.

 I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
 normal slide as well.

 I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
 translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
 whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.

Kenward,

Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified in 
the Powerdot documentation (page 26).

The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:

nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen

These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
\pdsetup.


-- 
..
Les Denham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:59 -0500, Les Denham wrote:
 On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 ...
  I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
  translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
  whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.
 

 Kenward,
 
 Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified 
 in 
 the Powerdot documentation (page 26).
 
 The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

Yes, as I have found out.


 I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:
 
 nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen
 
 These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
 Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
 styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
 default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
 \pdsetup.

Your choices still make no difference (screen mode on a portrait page). 

Regarding the reqs. for powerdot... those should be in place if the
Debian packager has their stuff together.  That seems to be the case,
since I have found that a simple export to plain latex, followed by runs
through latex, dvips, and ps2pdf, work perfectly (xpdf and acroread).

I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
options in it which cause the failure to create this.

I do appreciate your help!


Kenward
-- 
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I
have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than
in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan




Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 05:59:54 pm Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
 options in it which cause the failure to create this.

Kenward,

Have you tried the sample file?  It is 
/usr/share/lyx/examples/powerdot-example.lyx 
on the system I'm using this evening.  It works perfectly out of the box.

This is LyX 1.6.2 running on Kubuntu 9.04, and powerdot is provided by 
texlive-latex-recommended 2007.dfsg.1-5 in the main ubuntu repository. Debian 
is known for being rather slow in adopting releases, and while I have not used 
it myself, I have run into problems with LaTeX versions not working with 
Powerdot in other distributions.

Les
-- 
L. R. Denham
http://www.hal-pc.org/~ldenham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 18:06 -0700, Phil wrote:
 For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
  
 
  I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
  paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
  out as well.

Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
remove them, the presentation comes up normally.  

Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
ultimate goal, of course).

dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.

pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.

ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.

If I add orient=portrait then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
works fine and all is seen.  

I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.

I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
normal slide as well.

I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result. 


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
 documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
 putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
 remove them, the presentation comes up normally.  

 Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
 ultimate goal, of course).

 dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
 which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.

 pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.

 ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
 orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.

 If I add orient=portrait then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
 greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
 works fine and all is seen.  

 I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
 the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
 except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
 creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.

 I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
 normal slide as well.

 I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
 translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
 whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.

Kenward,

Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified in 
the Powerdot documentation (page 26).

The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:

nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen

These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
\pdsetup.


-- 
..
Les Denham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:59 -0500, Les Denham wrote:
 On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 ...
  I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
  translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
  whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.
 

 Kenward,
 
 Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified 
 in 
 the Powerdot documentation (page 26).
 
 The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

Yes, as I have found out.


 I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:
 
 nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen
 
 These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
 Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
 styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
 default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
 \pdsetup.

Your choices still make no difference (screen mode on a portrait page). 

Regarding the reqs. for powerdot... those should be in place if the
Debian packager has their stuff together.  That seems to be the case,
since I have found that a simple export to plain latex, followed by runs
through latex, dvips, and ps2pdf, work perfectly (xpdf and acroread).

I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
options in it which cause the failure to create this.

I do appreciate your help!


Kenward
-- 
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I
have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than
in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan




Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 05:59:54 pm Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
 options in it which cause the failure to create this.

Kenward,

Have you tried the sample file?  It is 
/usr/share/lyx/examples/powerdot-example.lyx 
on the system I'm using this evening.  It works perfectly out of the box.

This is LyX 1.6.2 running on Kubuntu 9.04, and powerdot is provided by 
texlive-latex-recommended 2007.dfsg.1-5 in the main ubuntu repository. Debian 
is known for being rather slow in adopting releases, and while I have not used 
it myself, I have run into problems with LaTeX versions not working with 
Powerdot in other distributions.

Les
-- 
L. R. Denham
http://www.hal-pc.org/~ldenham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 18:06 -0700, Phil wrote:
> For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
>  
> 
> > I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
> > paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
> > out as well.

Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
remove them, the presentation comes up "normally."  

Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
ultimate goal, of course).

dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.

pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.

ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.

If I add "orient=portrait" then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
works fine and all is seen.  

I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.

I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
"normal" slide as well.

I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result. 


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> Well, part of the problem stemmed from my belief that the powerdot
> documentation was to be taken literally. They make a statement about
> putting the above into the options, which I obediently did.  Once I
> remove them, the presentation comes up "normally."  
>
> Unfortunately this depends on what creates the pdf file (which is my
> ultimate goal, of course).
>
> dvipdfm - looks good as screen mode, but overlays show through as grey
> which I don't want. Xpdf is the same.
>
> pdflatex - this NEVER works.  It dies in compilation with errors.
>
> ps2pdf - the greyed overlays are gone (totally hidden--good!), but the
> orientation is bad.  It's placed on letter-portrait.
>
> If I add "orient=portrait" then I can see it all with dvipdfm but the
> greyed out material persists.  Links (contents) don't work.   ps2pdf
> works fine and all is seen.  
>
> I have yet to find a combo (variations of letter=/orient=) which works
> the way I thought things would go to produce a full screen version,
> except plain portrait mode.  ps2pdf is the only converter which properly
> creates a presentation with overlays completely out of sight.
>
> I'm glad to get the portrait version, but it would be nice to get a
> "normal" slide as well.
>
> I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
> translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
> whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.

Kenward,

Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified in 
the Powerdot documentation (page 26).

The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:

nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen

These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
\pdsetup.


-- 
..
Les Denham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 12:59 -0500, Les Denham wrote:
> On Monday 28 September 2009 11:02:11 Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> ...
> > I don't know where the problem is except that perhaps the way things get
> > translated from LyX to LaTeX to the pdf files gets messed up from
> > whatever standard powerdot needs to create a normal result.
> 

> Kenward,
> 
> Firstly, check that your LaTeX installation meets the requirements specified 
> in 
> the Powerdot documentation (page 26).
> 
> The ps2pdf conversion is the only one which will work properly with Powerdot.

Yes, as I have found out.


> I have numerous presentations which work properly with the following options:
> 
> nopsheader,style=horatio,display=slides,paper=screen
> 
> These are set in Document Class (under Document Settings) as a string in 
> Custom, under Class Options. The style can be any of the other Powerdot 
> styles. Everything else in Document Settings I leave at whatever  is the 
> default, except for the Preamble. Here I fill in the PDF options using 
> \pdsetup.

Your choices still make no difference (screen mode on a portrait page). 

Regarding the reqs. for powerdot... those should be in place if the
Debian packager has their stuff together.  That seems to be the case,
since I have found that a simple export to plain latex, followed by runs
through latex, dvips, and ps2pdf, work perfectly (xpdf and acroread).

I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
options in it which cause the failure to create this.

I do appreciate your help!


Kenward
-- 
The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I
have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than
in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan




Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 September 2009 05:59:54 pm Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> I still am led to believe that something in LyX's script must have
> options in it which cause the failure to create this.

Kenward,

Have you tried the sample file?  It is 
/usr/share/lyx/examples/powerdot-example.lyx 
on the system I'm using this evening.  It works perfectly out of the box.

This is LyX 1.6.2 running on Kubuntu 9.04, and powerdot is provided by 
texlive-latex-recommended 2007.dfsg.1-5 in the main ubuntu repository. Debian 
is known for being rather slow in adopting releases, and while I have not used 
it myself, I have run into problems with LaTeX versions not working with 
Powerdot in other distributions.

Les
-- 
L. R. Denham
http://www.hal-pc.org/~ldenham


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:16 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying powerdot as a quick way to create some slides, but have a
 problem of the slide being created in landscape mode but placed on
 portrait paper (if that makes any sense).
 
 I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
 paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
 out as well.
 
 Am I missing something?  Or perhaps more directly, what am I missing?
 
 Thanks for any leads!


Changing to orient=portrait, paper=letterpaper works to give a readable
set in portrait mode, but changing to landscape still gives an
off-the-slide problem.  


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Phil
For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
 

 I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
 paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
 out as well.



  


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:16 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying powerdot as a quick way to create some slides, but have a
 problem of the slide being created in landscape mode but placed on
 portrait paper (if that makes any sense).
 
 I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
 paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
 out as well.
 
 Am I missing something?  Or perhaps more directly, what am I missing?
 
 Thanks for any leads!


Changing to orient=portrait, paper=letterpaper works to give a readable
set in portrait mode, but changing to landscape still gives an
off-the-slide problem.  


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Phil
For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
 

 I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
 paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
 out as well.



  


Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:16 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying powerdot as a quick way to create some slides, but have a
> problem of the slide being created in landscape mode but placed on
> portrait paper (if that makes any sense).
> 
> I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
> paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
> out as well.
> 
> Am I missing something?  Or perhaps more directly, what am I missing?
> 
> Thanks for any leads!


Changing to orient=portrait, paper=letterpaper works to give a readable
set in portrait mode, but changing to landscape still gives an
off-the-slide problem.  


Kenward
-- 
In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be 
_teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, 
because passing civilization along from one generation to the next 
ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone 
could have. - Lee Iacocca



Re: Powerdot slides off screen--no control of orientation?

2009-09-27 Thread Phil
For me, it works only if remove option.nopsheader
 

> I've tried putting nopsheader, orient=landscape, mode=present,
> paper=screen into the class options to no avail.  Page layout is greyed
> out as well.