Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 20/03/2013 16:01, Neal Becker a écrit :

Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


FWIW, I just fixed this in trunk.

JMarc



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 20/03/2013 16:01, Neal Becker a écrit :

Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


FWIW, I just fixed this in trunk.

JMarc



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes

Le 20/03/2013 16:01, Neal Becker a écrit :

Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


FWIW, I just fixed this in trunk.

JMarc



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.

Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in spanish 
but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki please be 
welcome


Alex 


pdf-forms.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.



OOps, sorry wrong thread!

You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math 
mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the 
TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter 
math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M. 
Voilá.


HTH
Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:


 I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
 - I'd
 be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
 editors -
 to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
 and the
 lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
 to use
 LyX instead of just using LaTeX.


  OOps, sorry wrong thread!

 You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math
 mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the
 TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter
 math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M.
 Voilá.

 HTH
 Alex



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
  From: Neal Becker 
  To: Alex Vergara Gil 
  Cc: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: editing math in lyx


  Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought 
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from edit 
menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document! 


Yes, select one of the following
  a.. triple click inside the formula, 
  b.. select from the begining of the formula with the left click pressed
  c.. add a shortcut to your preferences as in 
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060
I prefer the first one, is just quicker

HTH
Alex

Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread David L. Johnson

On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other 
math editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 
1980s, and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before 
deciding to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.
I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX 
background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the 
math-insets the way you would want them, and math was just written in 
what we now call ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly 
because you have the usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't 
produce any output and TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if 
you want.  Use a TeX inset rather than a math one, and it will work.


I always just write the TeX out (e.g, \alpha) inside the math inset, and 
it now is instantly changed to display correctly, which I still think is 
cool.  If it doesn't change to a real display of the symbol, I know I 
made a mistake.  Better than a spellchecker.


There are some things I hate to set up in TeX, like tables, matrices.  
Then, I use the menus.  For me this is the best of both worlds.


If there is a way to display the raw TeX of a math inset, I suppose it 
would be useful in some circumstances.  Maybe someone will point out how 
to do that, and then you can set that up to be automatic, maybe.  Or you 
can just use ERT.


Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in 
spanish but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki 
please be welcome 
I might be able to take a crack at that, but not until after mid-April.  
If no one else volunteers, send it to me and I will take a look at it to 
see how much work it will be.


--

David L. Johnson

Accept risk.  Accept responsibility.  Put a lawyer out of business.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, David L. Johnson
 david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


 I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
 - I'd
 be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
 editors -
 to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
 and the
 lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
 to use
 LyX instead of just using LaTeX.

 I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX
 background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the math-insets
 the way you would want them, and math was just written in what we now call
 ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly because you have the
 usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't produce any output and
 TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if you want.  Use a TeX inset
 rather than a math one, and it will work.
 
 Another way to scratch your (La)TeX itch is to use LyX's layouts. You
 can make your own environments and insets and you define the LaTeX
 that is behind all of those. For my use, I've found that if there's a
 customization that I just want once, ERT is great. If I find myself
 doing something many times, I am starting to consider making a module
 or adding to my local layout. See the customization manual for
 information on these options.
 
 Scott

My usual route is to \C-m, start entering (maybe using \tex stuff, very nice).  
Problem arises if I made a mistake and then need to edit.  Then selecting and 
modifying via the gui is tedious and I usually wind up erasing accidentally 
large parts, and basically starting over.  This is where editing the underlying 
TeX would save trouble.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.

Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in spanish 
but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki please be 
welcome


Alex 


pdf-forms.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.



OOps, sorry wrong thread!

You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math 
mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the 
TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter 
math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M. 
Voilá.


HTH
Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu wrote:


 I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
 - I'd
 be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
 editors -
 to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
 and the
 lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
 to use
 LyX instead of just using LaTeX.


  OOps, sorry wrong thread!

 You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math
 mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the
 TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter
 math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M.
 Voilá.

 HTH
 Alex



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
  From: Neal Becker 
  To: Alex Vergara Gil 
  Cc: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: editing math in lyx


  Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought 
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from edit 
menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document! 


Yes, select one of the following
  a.. triple click inside the formula, 
  b.. select from the begining of the formula with the left click pressed
  c.. add a shortcut to your preferences as in 
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060
I prefer the first one, is just quicker

HTH
Alex

Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread David L. Johnson

On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other 
math editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 
1980s, and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before 
deciding to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.
I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX 
background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the 
math-insets the way you would want them, and math was just written in 
what we now call ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly 
because you have the usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't 
produce any output and TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if 
you want.  Use a TeX inset rather than a math one, and it will work.


I always just write the TeX out (e.g, \alpha) inside the math inset, and 
it now is instantly changed to display correctly, which I still think is 
cool.  If it doesn't change to a real display of the symbol, I know I 
made a mistake.  Better than a spellchecker.


There are some things I hate to set up in TeX, like tables, matrices.  
Then, I use the menus.  For me this is the best of both worlds.


If there is a way to display the raw TeX of a math inset, I suppose it 
would be useful in some circumstances.  Maybe someone will point out how 
to do that, and then you can set that up to be automatic, maybe.  Or you 
can just use ERT.


Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in 
spanish but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki 
please be welcome 
I might be able to take a crack at that, but not until after mid-April.  
If no one else volunteers, send it to me and I will take a look at it to 
see how much work it will be.


--

David L. Johnson

Accept risk.  Accept responsibility.  Put a lawyer out of business.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Scott Kostyshak wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, David L. Johnson
 david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote:
 On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


 I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
 - I'd
 be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
 editors -
 to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
 and the
 lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
 to use
 LyX instead of just using LaTeX.

 I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX
 background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the math-insets
 the way you would want them, and math was just written in what we now call
 ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly because you have the
 usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't produce any output and
 TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if you want.  Use a TeX inset
 rather than a math one, and it will work.
 
 Another way to scratch your (La)TeX itch is to use LyX's layouts. You
 can make your own environments and insets and you define the LaTeX
 that is behind all of those. For my use, I've found that if there's a
 customization that I just want once, ERT is great. If I find myself
 doing something many times, I am starting to consider making a module
 or adding to my local layout. See the customization manual for
 information on these options.
 
 Scott

My usual route is to \C-m, start entering (maybe using \tex stuff, very nice).  
Problem arises if I made a mistake and then need to edit.  Then selecting and 
modifying via the gui is tedious and I usually wind up erasing accidentally 
large parts, and basically starting over.  This is where editing the underlying 
TeX would save trouble.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.

Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in spanish 
but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki please be 
welcome


Alex 


pdf-forms.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math 
editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s, 
and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding 
to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.



OOps, sorry wrong thread!

You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math 
mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the 
TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter 
math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M. 
Voilá.


HTH
Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from
edit menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document!


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Alex Vergara Gil  wrote:

>
>> I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
>> - I'd
>> be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
>> editors -
>> to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
>> and the
>> lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
>> to use
>> LyX instead of just using LaTeX.
>>
>>
>>  OOps, sorry wrong thread!
>
> You can edit directly the TeX code by selecting the equation inside math
> mode (ctrl+C) and paste outside math mode (ctrl+V) then you will have the
> TeX code directly (you can also place TeX code directly without to enter
> math mode). When you finished select again your Tex code and press Ctrl+M.
> Voilá.
>
> HTH
> Alex
>


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
  From: Neal Becker 
  To: Alex Vergara Gil 
  Cc: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: editing math in lyx


  Any convenient shortcut to select the content of the formula?  I thought 
clicking inside the math formula and choosing 'select whole inset' from edit 
menu would do it, but seems to insist on selecting entire document! 


Yes, select one of the following
  a.. triple click inside the formula, 
  b.. select from the begining of the formula with the left click pressed
  c.. add a shortcut to your preferences as in 
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060
I prefer the first one, is just quicker

HTH
Alex

Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread David L. Johnson

On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code 
directly - I'd
be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other 
math editors -
to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 
1980s, and the
lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before 
deciding to use

LyX instead of just using LaTeX.
I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX 
background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the 
math-insets the way you would want them, and math was just written in 
what we now call ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly 
because you have the usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't 
produce any output and TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if 
you want.  Use a TeX inset rather than a math one, and it will work.


I always just write the TeX out (e.g, \alpha) inside the math inset, and 
it now is instantly changed to display correctly, which I still think is 
cool.  If it doesn't change to a real display of the symbol, I know I 
made a mistake.  Better than a spellchecker.


There are some things I hate to set up in TeX, like tables, matrices.  
Then, I use the menus.  For me this is the best of both worlds.


If there is a way to display the raw TeX of a math inset, I suppose it 
would be useful in some circumstances.  Maybe someone will point out how 
to do that, and then you can set that up to be automatic, maybe.  Or you 
can just use ERT.


Attached there is a MWE of how to produce this forms in LyX (is in 
spanish but the idea remains for every language).


HTH, if anyone is so kind to translate this and upload to the wiki 
please be welcome 
I might be able to take a crack at that, but not until after mid-April.  
If no one else volunteers, send it to me and I will take a look at it to 
see how much work it will be.


--

David L. Johnson

Accept risk.  Accept responsibility.  Put a lawyer out of business.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-20 Thread Neal Becker
Scott Kostyshak wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM, David L. Johnson
>  wrote:
>> On 03/20/2013 11:43 AM, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


 I would really love to be able to conveniently edit the TeX code directly
 - I'd
 be vastly more productive.  I find lyx gui editing - as all other math
 editors -
 to be terribly frustrating and unproductive.  I used LaTeX since 1980s,
 and the
 lack of this is the only thing that makes me think twice before deciding
 to use
 LyX instead of just using LaTeX.
>>
>> I do understand this tendency, since I also came to LyX with a TeX
>> background.  Way back when LyX was young, Matthais set up the math-insets
>> the way you would want them, and math was just written in what we now call
>> ERT (Evil Red Text, a TeX inset.  It's evil mostly because you have the
>> usual problems that if your code is wrong, it won't produce any output and
>> TeX will yell at you.).  You can still do that if you want.  Use a TeX inset
>> rather than a math one, and it will work.
> 
> Another way to scratch your (La)TeX itch is to use LyX's layouts. You
> can make your own environments and insets and you define the LaTeX
> that is behind all of those. For my use, I've found that if there's a
> customization that I just want once, ERT is great. If I find myself
> doing something many times, I am starting to consider making a module
> or adding to my local layout. See the customization manual for
> information on these options.
> 
> Scott

My usual route is to \C-m, start entering (maybe using \tex stuff, very nice).  
Problem arises if I made a mistake and then need to edit.  Then selecting and 
modifying via the gui is tedious and I usually wind up erasing accidentally 
large parts, and basically starting over.  This is where editing the underlying 
TeX would save trouble.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org

To: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org
Cc: Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; 
lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org

Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott



Scott

This saves my day, actually I have no idea that LyX can actually can copy in 
rendered math mode and paste outside it as TeX code and then go backwards.


The solution I prefer is then manually select your equation inside math 
mode, cut and paste outside math mode (it will be displayed as TeX code). 
These can be automated by the shortcut: command-sequence char-forward; 
line-end-select ; cut; char-backward; paste; char-delete-forward. hen you 
finish to edit select the whole code and press ctrl+m. Voilá, Everything 
goes as expected.


So thankyou very much Scott for pointing me in the right direction.

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Kostyshak skost...@lyx.org

To: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org
Cc: Alex Vergara Gil a...@cphr.edu.cu; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org; 
lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org

Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott



Scott

This saves my day, actually I have no idea that LyX can actually can copy in 
rendered math mode and paste outside it as TeX code and then go backwards.


The solution I prefer is then manually select your equation inside math 
mode, cut and paste outside math mode (it will be displayed as TeX code). 
These can be automated by the shortcut: command-sequence char-forward; 
line-end-select ; cut; char-backward; paste; char-delete-forward. hen you 
finish to edit select the whole code and press ctrl+m. Voilá, Everything 
goes as expected.


So thankyou very much Scott for pointing me in the right direction.

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-18 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Kostyshak" <skost...@lyx.org>

To: "Abdelrazak Younes" <you...@lyx.org>
Cc: "Alex Vergara Gil" <a...@cphr.edu.cu>; <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>; 
<lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org>

Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott



Scott

This saves my day, actually I have no idea that LyX can actually can copy in 
rendered math mode and paste outside it as TeX code and then go backwards.


The solution I prefer is then manually select your equation inside math 
mode, cut and paste outside math mode (it will be displayed as TeX code). 
These can be automated by the shortcut: command-sequence char-forward; 
line-end-select ; cut; char-backward; paste; char-delete-forward. hen you 
finish to edit select the whole code and press ctrl+m. Voilá, Everything 
goes as expected.


So thankyou very much Scott for pointing me in the right direction.

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.

1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
(or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
equation/whatever I have edited.

This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.

I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
math but that´s not an optimal approach.


This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without 
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose 
a patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users 
must participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


Abdel.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org wrote:
 On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


 Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
 I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
 to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
 and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
 know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.

 1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
 2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
 introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
 in TeX code.
 3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
 (or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
 equation/whatever I have edited.

 This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
 should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
 clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.

 I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
 math but that´s not an optimal approach.


 This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
 touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
 patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
 participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.

+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.

1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
(or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
equation/whatever I have edited.

This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.

I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
math but that´s not an optimal approach.


This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without 
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose 
a patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users 
must participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


Abdel.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org wrote:
 On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


 Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
 I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
 to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
 and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
 know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.

 1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
 2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
 introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
 in TeX code.
 3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
 (or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
 equation/whatever I have edited.

 This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
 should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
 clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.

 I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
 math but that´s not an optimal approach.


 This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
 touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
 patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
 participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.

+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:


Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.

1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
(or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
equation/whatever I have edited.

This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.

I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
math but that´s not an optimal approach.


This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without 
touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose 
a patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users 
must participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.


Abdel.



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-17 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Abdelrazak Younes  wrote:
> On 14/03/2013 15:14, Alex Vergara Gil wrote:
>>
>>
>> Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
>> I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard
>> to put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX
>> and rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t
>> know if I am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.
>>
>> 1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
>> 2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have
>> introduced, so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all
>> in TeX code.
>> 3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again
>> (or just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered
>> equation/whatever I have edited.
>>
>> This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one
>> should only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to
>> clarify this in the manual if it is actually included.
>>
>> I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to
>> math but that´s not an optimal approach.
>
>
> This sounds like a not very hard feature to implement, maybe without
> touching C++ even. So why don't you implement this yourself and propose a
> patch? There are not many active developers these days so LyX users must
> participate to the development if they want to see LyX evolve.

+1. See the link below for a start. One of the solutions does
basically what you suggest but using shortcuts.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/84031/making-an-edit-to-an-inline-equation-that-went-off-of-the-screen/84060#84060

Scott


Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-03-13, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
 An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
 the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
 change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
 the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
 (ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Third method: 

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for a
display formula).

Günter



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



Third method:

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for 
a

display formula).

Günter




Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard to 
put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX and 
rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t know if I 
am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.


1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have introduced, 
so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again (or 
just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered 
equation/whatever I have edited.


This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one should 
only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to clarify 
this in the manual if it is actually included.


I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to math 
but that´s not an optimal approach.


Regards

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-03-13, Csikos Bela wrote:
 Hello:

 How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
 An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
 the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
 change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
 the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
 (ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Third method: 

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for a
display formula).

Günter



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: Guenter Milde mi...@users.sf.net

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



Third method:

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for 
a

display formula).

Günter




Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard to 
put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX and 
rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t know if I 
am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.


1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have introduced, 
so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again (or 
just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered 
equation/whatever I have edited.


This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one should 
only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to clarify 
this in the manual if it is actually included.


I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to math 
but that´s not an optimal approach.


Regards

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-03-13, Csikos Bela wrote:
> Hello:

> How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
> An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
> the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
> change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
> the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
> (ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Third method: 

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for a
display formula).

Günter



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-14 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
- Original Message - 
From: "Guenter Milde" <mi...@users.sf.net>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: editing math in lyx



Third method:

* select and cut the fraction
* paste into text - will appear as LaTeX macros
* edit
* cut and paste back to the formula

This also works for complete formulas. Then, alternatively, you can select
the LaTeX-macros-text and convert to a math box via Ctrl-M (or Alt-M D for 
a

display formula).

Günter




Isn´t there a better way to do this inside LyX?
I think this is a good feature request for developers, is not that hard to 
put a button inside the math environment that switches between TeX and 
rendered math mode, and when exited you see only rendered. I don´t know if I 
am making myself clear, so I will explain this a little more.


1 Enter in math mode and add some equation/whatever.
2 Now I want to add some TeX code directly or edit what I have introduced, 
so I press the (requested) switch button and I could see all in TeX code.
3 I edit the TeX code  and when finished press the switch button again (or 
just leave math mode), the result should be the new rendered 
equation/whatever I have edited.


This feature would be great for middle to power users, off course one should 
only expect math code inside the math mode so it would be nice to clarify 
this in the manual if it is actually included.


I know I can do this in a ERT environment but then I need to copy to math 
but that´s not an optimal approach.


Regards

Alex 



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/13/2013 09:29 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Hello:

How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
(ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Erase what you had an redo it. Copy it out first, if you wish,
and then paste it back.

Richard



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
1. Position the cursor just inside the numerator (you should see 'Font: textrm'
in the status line).

2. Hit backspace (removing the font selection and reverting the numerator to
normal math font).

3. Select the contents of the numerator.

4. Type '\textsf' and hit the space bar. It will appear to be overwriting the
numerator, but when you hit the space bar the numerator contents will be there,
in the new font.

5. Repeat for the denominator.

Paul





Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/13/2013 09:29 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Hello:

How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
(ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Erase what you had an redo it. Copy it out first, if you wish,
and then paste it back.

Richard



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
1. Position the cursor just inside the numerator (you should see 'Font: textrm'
in the status line).

2. Hit backspace (removing the font selection and reverting the numerator to
normal math font).

3. Select the contents of the numerator.

4. Type '\textsf' and hit the space bar. It will appear to be overwriting the
numerator, but when you hit the space bar the numerator contents will be there,
in the new font.

5. Repeat for the denominator.

Paul





Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Richard Heck

On 03/13/2013 09:29 AM, Csikos Bela wrote:

Hello:

How can I edit text written in math mode in lyx?
An example: I write a fraction using \textrm for both
the numerator and the denominator. Then I decide to
change these to sans serif (textsf). How can I apply
the change to the fraction's numerator and denominator?
(ie. change the code \textrm to \textsf)?

Erase what you had an redo it. Copy it out first, if you wish,
and then paste it back.

Richard



Re: editing math in lyx

2013-03-13 Thread Paul A . Rubin
1. Position the cursor just inside the numerator (you should see 'Font: textrm'
in the status line).

2. Hit backspace (removing the font selection and reverting the numerator to
normal math font).

3. Select the contents of the numerator.

4. Type '\textsf' and hit the space bar. It will appear to be overwriting the
numerator, but when you hit the space bar the numerator contents will be there,
in the new font.

5. Repeat for the denominator.

Paul