Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Manveru
2010/8/11 Dino Vliet dino_vl...@yahoo.com

   [...]
  I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it all worthwile
 the hassle?



It depends whether you esteem elegant look of your document... however I
would not expect fireworks with graphics from OpenOffice...

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Dino Vliet wrote:
 Which Document class do you recommend?
  
 A) report or B) Book?

If you want your chapters to start a new page, use book. Else, use report. I'd 
recommend KOMA book/report, since it comes with sensible default, but is 
nevertheless very flexible, if you need it.

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
 save me time? 

Just go with the details and concentrate on the content.

 For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and like
 André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it from
 http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.  However,
 all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it
 all worthwile the hassle?

Classic Thesis produces a very elegant layout, but it's a bit too stylish for 
a thesis, IMHO.

Jürgen


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 11:23:56 Dino Vliet wrote:
 Dear Lyx users,
 I'm stressed by time (lack of it) because I need to write my thesis.
  However, due to the fact that Lyx produces nice quality documents I really
  want to do this. I'm new to Lyx and I therefore don't want to fiddle with
  too low level details. 
 My thesis will be simple, a front page with the logo's  of my university
  and my employer, TOC, Chapters with mixed text, graphics from excel or
  openoffice and ocassionally some mathematical functions and a
  bibliography. 

[clip]

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
  save me time? 

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my opinion 
you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other words, use 
embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX community, to insert your 
logo and employer and line them up exactly how you want them and page break 
where you want and make fonts exactly how you want them to look.

The opposite is true with the main matter, where my advice would be to never 
use ERT.

If you find you need to create your own Paragraph styles (called 
Environments in LyX Land) or character styles, the quickest way to do that 
is to use LyX's CopyStyle keyword in your style definition, and later, when 
you're not pounding out content, you can make that style look how you want, or 
perhaps have a more LaTeX aware person help you with it.

I make my new styles in layout files, and I've documented a lot of it here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

Since you're under a time crunch, try to get by with LyX's default styles, but 
if you need to modify a LyX default style or make a brand new one, it's very 
doable.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
Dino Vliet dino_vl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 graphics from excel or openoffice

Unfortunately I can only echo Manveru, Excel and OOo graphs are not the
way to go. But if you're in a hurry, it should be fine; just beware of
bitmap graphics. Personally I prefer R. 

 some mathematical functions and a bibliography. Which Document class
 do you recommend? A) report or B) Book? 

I wrote mine (master's) in article. As for the first page (logo and
stuff), stole it from the wiki. 

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices
 which will save me time? 

If you are debuting with LaTeX, this might be the
simplest choice. 

Regards
Liviu

 For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and
 like André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it
 from http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.
 However, all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me
 thinkis it all worthwile the hassle? Brgds Dino
 
 
   



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
 opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
 words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
 community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
 how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
 exactly how you want them to look.
 
I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in 
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX. 
Liviu


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Oakes
 I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new 
document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After 
that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.


On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
exactly how you want them to look.


I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX.
Liviu




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote:
  I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new
 document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After that,
 though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.

 On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
 Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

 This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
 opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
 words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
 community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
 how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
 exactly how you want them to look.

 I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
 need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
 should (mostly) be LyX.
 Liviu




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
elegant.
What do you people use?

Yours,
Morten

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
 back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
 very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
 tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
 plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
 nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
 regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us
 wrote:
   I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
  new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
   After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
 
  On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
  On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
  Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:
 
  This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
  in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
  In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
  the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
  up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
  make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
 
  I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
  if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
  All below should (mostly) be LyX.
  Liviu
 
 



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I have chosen Mathpazo. You can check some sample at
http://www.mengensatz.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/mathpazo.png
CTAN's page: 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/mathpazo.html
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
mj...@syntaktisk.dk wrote:
 Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
 about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
 elegant.
 What do you people use?

 Yours,
 Morten

 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
 back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
 very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
 tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
 plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
 nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
 regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us
 wrote:
   I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
  new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
   After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
 
  On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
  On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
  Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:
 
  This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
  in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
  In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
  the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
  up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
  make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
 
  I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
  if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
  All below should (mostly) be LyX.
  Liviu
 
 




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:30:00 -0400
Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér mj...@syntaktisk.dk wrote:
 Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you
 think about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
 elegant.
 What do you people use?
 
Personally I've settled with Palatino  Optima (or TeX Gyre Pagella
and URW Classico in free speech), with LM Typewriter or Courier where
needed for code. I've once ranted on this on the mailing list. Search
the archives. 
Liviu


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Manveru
2010/8/11 Dino Vliet dino_vl...@yahoo.com

   [...]
  I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it all worthwile
 the hassle?



It depends whether you esteem elegant look of your document... however I
would not expect fireworks with graphics from OpenOffice...

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Dino Vliet wrote:
 Which Document class do you recommend?
  
 A) report or B) Book?

If you want your chapters to start a new page, use book. Else, use report. I'd 
recommend KOMA book/report, since it comes with sensible default, but is 
nevertheless very flexible, if you need it.

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
 save me time? 

Just go with the details and concentrate on the content.

 For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and like
 André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it from
 http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.  However,
 all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it
 all worthwile the hassle?

Classic Thesis produces a very elegant layout, but it's a bit too stylish for 
a thesis, IMHO.

Jürgen


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 11:23:56 Dino Vliet wrote:
 Dear Lyx users,
 I'm stressed by time (lack of it) because I need to write my thesis.
  However, due to the fact that Lyx produces nice quality documents I really
  want to do this. I'm new to Lyx and I therefore don't want to fiddle with
  too low level details. 
 My thesis will be simple, a front page with the logo's  of my university
  and my employer, TOC, Chapters with mixed text, graphics from excel or
  openoffice and ocassionally some mathematical functions and a
  bibliography. 

[clip]

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
  save me time? 

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my opinion 
you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other words, use 
embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX community, to insert your 
logo and employer and line them up exactly how you want them and page break 
where you want and make fonts exactly how you want them to look.

The opposite is true with the main matter, where my advice would be to never 
use ERT.

If you find you need to create your own Paragraph styles (called 
Environments in LyX Land) or character styles, the quickest way to do that 
is to use LyX's CopyStyle keyword in your style definition, and later, when 
you're not pounding out content, you can make that style look how you want, or 
perhaps have a more LaTeX aware person help you with it.

I make my new styles in layout files, and I've documented a lot of it here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

Since you're under a time crunch, try to get by with LyX's default styles, but 
if you need to modify a LyX default style or make a brand new one, it's very 
doable.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
Dino Vliet dino_vl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 graphics from excel or openoffice

Unfortunately I can only echo Manveru, Excel and OOo graphs are not the
way to go. But if you're in a hurry, it should be fine; just beware of
bitmap graphics. Personally I prefer R. 

 some mathematical functions and a bibliography. Which Document class
 do you recommend? A) report or B) Book? 

I wrote mine (master's) in article. As for the first page (logo and
stuff), stole it from the wiki. 

 What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices
 which will save me time? 

If you are debuting with LaTeX, this might be the
simplest choice. 

Regards
Liviu

 For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and
 like André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it
 from http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.
 However, all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me
 thinkis it all worthwile the hassle? Brgds Dino
 
 
   



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
 opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
 words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
 community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
 how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
 exactly how you want them to look.
 
I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in 
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX. 
Liviu


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Oakes
 I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new 
document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After 
that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.


On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
exactly how you want them to look.


I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX.
Liviu




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote:
  I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new
 document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After that,
 though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.

 On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
 Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:

 This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
 opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
 words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
 community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
 how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
 exactly how you want them to look.

 I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
 need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
 should (mostly) be LyX.
 Liviu




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
elegant.
What do you people use?

Yours,
Morten

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
 back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
 very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
 tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
 plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
 nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
 regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us
 wrote:
   I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
  new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
   After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
 
  On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
  On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
  Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:
 
  This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
  in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
  In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
  the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
  up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
  make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
 
  I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
  if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
  All below should (mostly) be LyX.
  Liviu
 
 



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I have chosen Mathpazo. You can check some sample at
http://www.mengensatz.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/mathpazo.png
CTAN's page: 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/mathpazo.html
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
mj...@syntaktisk.dk wrote:
 Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
 about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
 elegant.
 What do you people use?

 Yours,
 Morten

 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
 back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
 very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
 tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
 plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
 nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
 regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us
 wrote:
   I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
  new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
   After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
 
  On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
  On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
  Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com  wrote:
 
  This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
  in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
  In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
  the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
  up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
  make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
 
  I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
  if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
  All below should (mostly) be LyX.
  Liviu
 
 




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:30:00 -0400
Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér mj...@syntaktisk.dk wrote:
 Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you
 think about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
 elegant.
 What do you people use?
 
Personally I've settled with Palatino  Optima (or TeX Gyre Pagella
and URW Classico in free speech), with LM Typewriter or Courier where
needed for code. I've once ranted on this on the mailing list. Search
the archives. 
Liviu


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Manveru
2010/8/11 Dino Vliet 

>   [...]
>  I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it all worthwile
> the hassle?
>
>
>
It depends whether you esteem elegant look of your document... however I
would not expect fireworks with graphics from OpenOffice...

-- 
Manveru
jabber: manv...@manveru.pl
 gg: 1624001
   http://www.manveru.pl


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Dino Vliet wrote:
> Which Document class do you recommend?
>  
> A) report or B) Book?

If you want your chapters to start a new page, use book. Else, use report. I'd 
recommend KOMA book/report, since it comes with sensible default, but is 
nevertheless very flexible, if you need it.

> What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
> save me time? 

Just go with the details and concentrate on the content.

> For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and like
> André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it from
> http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.  However,
> all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me thinkis it
> all worthwile the hassle?

Classic Thesis produces a very elegant layout, but it's a bit too stylish for 
a thesis, IMHO.

Jürgen


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 11 August 2010 11:23:56 Dino Vliet wrote:
> Dear Lyx users,
> I'm stressed by time (lack of it) because I need to write my thesis.
>  However, due to the fact that Lyx produces nice quality documents I really
>  want to do this. I'm new to Lyx and I therefore don't want to fiddle with
>  too low level details. 
> My thesis will be simple, a front page with the logo's  of my university
>  and my employer, TOC, Chapters with mixed text, graphics from excel or
>  openoffice and ocassionally some mathematical functions and a
>  bibliography. 

[clip]

> What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices which will
>  save me time? 

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my opinion 
you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other words, use 
embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX community, to insert your 
logo and employer and line them up exactly how you want them and page break 
where you want and make fonts exactly how you want them to look.

The opposite is true with the main matter, where my advice would be to never 
use ERT.

If you find you need to create your own Paragraph styles (called 
"Environments" in LyX Land) or character styles, the quickest way to do that 
is to use LyX's CopyStyle keyword in your style definition, and later, when 
you're not pounding out content, you can make that style look how you want, or 
perhaps have a more LaTeX aware person help you with it.

I make my new styles in layout files, and I've documented a lot of it here:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/index.htm

Since you're under a time crunch, try to get by with LyX's default styles, but 
if you need to modify a LyX default style or make a brand new one, it's very 
doable.

SteveT

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Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
Dino Vliet  wrote:
> graphics from excel or openoffice
>
Unfortunately I can only echo Manveru, Excel and OOo graphs are not the
way to go. But if you're in a hurry, it should be fine; just beware of
bitmap graphics. Personally I prefer R. 

> some mathematical functions and a bibliography. Which Document class
> do you recommend? A) report or B) Book? 
>
I wrote mine (master's) in article. As for the first page (logo and
stuff), stole it from the wiki. 

> What other types of tips can you give me regarding these choices
> which will save me time? 
>
If you are debuting with LaTeX, this might be the
simplest choice. 

Regards
Liviu

> For instances I have found, http://wiki.lyx.org/Examples/Thesis and
> like André Miede's Classic Thesis ported to LyX and downloaded it
> from http://www.soundsorange.net/resources/classic-thesis-for-lyx/.
> However, all the steps I need to do to get this working, makes me
> thinkis it all worthwile the hassle? Brgds Dino
> 
> 
>   



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:
> This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
> opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
> words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
> community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
> how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
> exactly how you want them to look.
> 
I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in 
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX. 
Liviu


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Oakes
 I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new 
document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After 
that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.


On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
exactly how you want them to look.


I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
should (mostly) be LyX.
Liviu




Re: writing my Thesis with lyx

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes  wrote:
>  I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as new
> document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.  After that,
> though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
>
> On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
>> Steve Litt  wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but in my
>>> opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter. In other
>>> words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in the LyX
>>> community, to insert your logo and employer and line them up exactly
>>> how you want them and page break where you want and make fonts
>>> exactly how you want them to look.
>>>
>> I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it: if in
>> need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX. All below
>> should (mostly) be LyX.
>> Liviu
>
>


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
elegant.
What do you people use?

Yours,
Morten

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
Julio Rojas  wrote:

> I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
> back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
> very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
> tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
> plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
> nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
> regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes 
> wrote:
> >  I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
> > new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
> >  After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
> >
> > On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
> >> Steve Litt  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
> >>> in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
> >>> In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
> >>> the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
> >>> up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
> >>> make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
> >>>
> >> I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
> >> if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
> >> All below should (mostly) be LyX.
> >> Liviu
> >
> >



Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Julio Rojas
I have chosen Mathpazo. You can check some sample at
http://www.mengensatz.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/mathpazo.png
CTAN's page: 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/mathpazo.html
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér
 wrote:
> Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you think
> about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
> elegant.
> What do you people use?
>
> Yours,
> Morten
>
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:23:55 +0200
> Julio Rojas  wrote:
>
>> I'm writing mine as we speak. I have chosen memoir and never turned
>> back. Basic stuff is basic, works perfectly with LyX and its layout is
>> very nice. A big library on chapter title styles is a plus. I have
>> tried Koma before, but never liked it completely. R is a must for nice
>> plots, as well as Inkscape for fingerpainting. Biblatex is another
>> nice addition. Please, feel free to ask any question you have. Best
>> regards.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Oakes 
>> wrote:
>> >  I also, couldn't agree more.  I tend to hide my modifications as
>> > new document classes ... but front-matter should be finger painted.
>> >  After that, though, I don't want to see or think about ERT.
>> >
>> > On 08/11/2010 12:40 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:19:43 -0400
>> >> Steve Litt  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> This is a minority opinion and a lot don't subscribe to it, but
>> >>> in my opinion you save time by fingerpainting your front matter.
>> >>> In other words, use embedded LaTeX, historically called ERT in
>> >>> the LyX community, to insert your logo and employer and line them
>> >>> up exactly how you want them and page break where you want and
>> >>> make fonts exactly how you want them to look.
>> >>>
>> >> I'm not sure that this is minority.. At least I subscribe to it:
>> >> if in need for anything fancy, first page should be pure LaTeX.
>> >> All below should (mostly) be LyX.
>> >> Liviu
>> >
>> >
>
>


Re: writing my Thesis with lyx: Font derail

2010-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:30:00 -0400
Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér  wrote:
> Since this discussion is turning to matters of taste, what do you
> think about the font choices? The default font is obviously dated, if
> elegant.
> What do you people use?
> 
Personally I've settled with Palatino & Optima (or TeX Gyre Pagella
and URW Classico in free speech), with LM Typewriter or Courier where
needed for code. I've once ranted on this on the mailing list. Search
the archives. 
Liviu