Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand {\bibsection \E
TC.
If i do not put % latex loops forever.
Any idea what i made wrong? Two sample tex file are attached. The
Test_orig.tex still compiles but does not have the preamble changes.
Andreas
test.tex
Description: Binary data
Test_orig.tex
Description: Binary data
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/25/2012 04:32 PM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand
{\bibsection \E
TC.
Other way around:
\let\oldcite=\cite
\renewcommand\cite{\texorpdfstring{\oldcite...whatever...
rh
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand {\bibsection \E
TC.
If i do not put % latex loops forever.
Any idea what i made wrong? Two sample tex file are attached. The
Test_orig.tex still compiles but does not have the preamble changes.
Andreas
test.tex
Description: Binary data
Test_orig.tex
Description: Binary data
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/25/2012 04:32 PM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand
{\bibsection \E
TC.
Other way around:
\let\oldcite=\cite
\renewcommand\cite{\texorpdfstring{\oldcite...whatever...
rh
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print "(a)" then "(b)". This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print "b", not "c".
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand {\bibsection \E
TC.
If i do not put % latex loops forever.
Any idea what i made wrong? Two sample tex file are attached. The
Test_orig.tex still compiles but does not have the preamble changes.
Andreas
test.tex
Description: Binary data
Test_orig.tex
Description: Binary data
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/25/2012 04:32 PM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
On 2012-11-24 18:20:45 +, Richard Heck said:
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand
\cite when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is
expanded. That is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a
variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print "(a)" then "(b)". This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that
\let actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print "b", not "c".
Richard
I am not sure if i adapted your idea correctly. If i set in the
preamble the following code
\newcommand\newcite{\texorpdfstring{\cite%}{}}
\let\cite=\newcite
Latex stops with the following error:
Runaway argument?
{\texorpdfstring {\cite \let \cite =\newcite \par \renewcommand
{\bibsection \E
TC.
Other way around:
\let\oldcite=\cite
\renewcommand\cite{\texorpdfstring{\oldcite...whatever...
rh
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand \cite
when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is expanded. That
is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that \let
actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand \cite
when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is expanded. That
is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print (a) then (b). This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that \let
actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print b, not c.
Richard
Re: complex renewcommand \cite
On 11/23/2012 09:59 AM, Andreas Paeffgen wrote:
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
This causes an infinite loop. \cite gets unpacked into something
involving \cite, which gets unpacked into something else involving
\cite, etc. Not so good. The problem is that LaTeX does not expand \cite
when you give this command, but only when \cite itself is expanded. That
is: \cite, even though it is a command, works like a variable. Consider:
\newcommand\mystuff{a}
\newcommand\inparens{(\mystuff)}
\inparens
\renewcommand\mystuff{b}
\inparens
This will print "(a)" then "(b)". This is actually quite useful
sometimes, and could equally well be done with more complicated
commands. (This kind of thing is done in the LaTeX core all the time.)
The standard way around this kind of thing is:
\let\oldcite=\cite
and then you redefine \cite in terms of \oldcite. The point is that \let
actually assigns the *expanded* form (at that point) of \cite to
\oldcite, rather than making \oldcite an alias for \cite (which would
just give us the other problem back again). So, e.g.:
\let\stuff=\mystuff
\renewcommand\mystuff{c}
\stuff
will still print "b", not "c".
Richard
complex renewcommand \cite
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
If i use the expandet command in an ERT, it works. See the attached test.lyx
test.lyx
Description: Binary data
Any suggestions what i do wrong? I need only one variable. the last {}
should be empty all the time.
\texorpdfstring{\cite{Gilbert}}{}
This is the text in ERT and this works.
Andreas
complex renewcommand \cite
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
If i use the expandet command in an ERT, it works. See the attached test.lyx
test.lyx
Description: Binary data
Any suggestions what i do wrong? I need only one variable. the last {}
should be empty all the time.
\texorpdfstring{\cite{Gilbert}}{}
This is the text in ERT and this works.
Andreas
complex renewcommand \cite
I want to get a different \cite command in the document. If i put
\renewcommand{\cite}{\texorpdfstring{\cite{%}}{} } in the preamble i
get an emergency stop.
If i use the expandet command in an ERT, it works. See the attached test.lyx
test.lyx
Description: Binary data
Any suggestions what i do wrong? I need only one variable. the last {}
should be empty all the time.
\texorpdfstring{\cite{Gilbert}}{}
This is the text in ERT and this works.
Andreas
