three problems

[Ivan Werning]

Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX  
1.6. I thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with  
the many many improvements of 1.6.


I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.

Three small problems I've had:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the  
collapse button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide  
one that hides some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right  
of frames/windows in mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in  
any way... maximizing, minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This  
seems like a bug.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which  
ones show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently  
stick across sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some  
preferred set and position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


It seems like LyX makes some attempts to remember these things, but  
after a while (after opening and closing sessions or opening different  
files) it forgets, or reverts to positions used in other files. I  
can't figure out any consistent pattern yet.


Specifically, if I start with no file open. Then remove the View/ 
Update toolbar. Set the toolbar sizes to small. Then close that frame.  
Then when I open a new frame it looks just like that. But if I load  
some previous file it may go back to the old look. Hence, I concluded  
it is doing things file specifically. But no: if you close the frame  
and go back to another file that you had tweaked the toolbars  
differently it will now forget. Or if you start a new file you may get


Sorry if I am not describing this very well, but part of it is that it  
really seems to behave erratically from my point of view, or with an  
odd rule.


Note: I do have the Allow saving/restoring of window layouts and  
geometry checked in my preferences. I am also using LyX with the tab  
option enabled. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.


3. I have load open files from last session enabled in my  
preferences. However, the contrast in the behavior of the following  
two operations is surely not intended:


-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

alternatively...
-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the  
frame (the one with the x mark)

-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

Both operations really should give the same result, since in the  
second case, before you shutdown LyX you can verify that no file is  
open, e.g. go to View and it reports No Documents Open! so this  
isn't a matter of an open buffer without a window (as I am used to  
having in Emacs).


Thanks!

-Ivan

Re: three problems

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I do meet the proble 2 in Windows XP SP3 too.
I have not yet checked other two problems.
Murat

2008/11/12 Ivan Werning [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX 1.6. I
 thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with the many many
 improvements of 1.6.

 I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.

 Three small problems I've had:

 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
 button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
 some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
 mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
 minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.

 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
 show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
 sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
 position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.

Re: three problems

[Bennett Helm]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
 button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
 some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
 mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
 minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.

I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.

 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
 show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
 sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
 position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.

snip

In general, sessions handling needs work, but please do enter this
into bugzilla as well. (Your description was fine.)

 3. I have load open files from last session enabled in my preferences.
 However, the contrast in the behavior of the following two operations is
 surely not intended:

 -start a new session with no files open
 -open file foo.lyx
 -close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
 -close LyX using CMD-Q
 -open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

This is intended behavior: foo.lyx was not open when you quit LyX, so
it should not be reopened when you relaunch it.

 alternatively...
 -start a new session with no files open
 -open file foo.lyx
 -this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
 (the one with the x mark)
 -close LyX using CMD-Q
 -open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
(the one with the x mark)
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded


This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.


This (#3) is already
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

Feel free to add comments / additional information!

/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.


I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


Also this one (#2) is already there:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4967

/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Ivan Werning]

On Nov 12, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Bennett Helm wrote:



I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ 
.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett


Thanks. Done. Perhaps someone can confirm it there and add any  
comments. I filed bugs at...


http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5502
for the #1 issue, about Full Screen.

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5503
for the #2 issue, about toolbars.

and added a confirm comment for Kondrad's previous report at (related  
to my problem #3 about reloading closed documents):

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

-Ivan

three problems

[Ivan Werning]

Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX  
1.6. I thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with  
the many many improvements of 1.6.


I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.

Three small problems I've had:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the  
collapse button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide  
one that hides some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right  
of frames/windows in mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in  
any way... maximizing, minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This  
seems like a bug.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which  
ones show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently  
stick across sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some  
preferred set and position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


It seems like LyX makes some attempts to remember these things, but  
after a while (after opening and closing sessions or opening different  
files) it forgets, or reverts to positions used in other files. I  
can't figure out any consistent pattern yet.


Specifically, if I start with no file open. Then remove the View/ 
Update toolbar. Set the toolbar sizes to small. Then close that frame.  
Then when I open a new frame it looks just like that. But if I load  
some previous file it may go back to the old look. Hence, I concluded  
it is doing things file specifically. But no: if you close the frame  
and go back to another file that you had tweaked the toolbars  
differently it will now forget. Or if you start a new file you may get


Sorry if I am not describing this very well, but part of it is that it  
really seems to behave erratically from my point of view, or with an  
odd rule.


Note: I do have the Allow saving/restoring of window layouts and  
geometry checked in my preferences. I am also using LyX with the tab  
option enabled. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.


3. I have load open files from last session enabled in my  
preferences. However, the contrast in the behavior of the following  
two operations is surely not intended:


-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

alternatively...
-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the  
frame (the one with the x mark)

-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

Both operations really should give the same result, since in the  
second case, before you shutdown LyX you can verify that no file is  
open, e.g. go to View and it reports No Documents Open! so this  
isn't a matter of an open buffer without a window (as I am used to  
having in Emacs).


Thanks!

-Ivan

Re: three problems

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I do meet the proble 2 in Windows XP SP3 too.
I have not yet checked other two problems.
Murat

2008/11/12 Ivan Werning [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX 1.6. I
 thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with the many many
 improvements of 1.6.

 I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.

 Three small problems I've had:

 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
 button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
 some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
 mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
 minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.

 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
 show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
 sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
 position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.

Re: three problems

[Bennett Helm]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
 button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
 some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
 mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
 minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.

I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.

 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
 show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
 sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
 position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.

snip

In general, sessions handling needs work, but please do enter this
into bugzilla as well. (Your description was fine.)

 3. I have load open files from last session enabled in my preferences.
 However, the contrast in the behavior of the following two operations is
 surely not intended:

 -start a new session with no files open
 -open file foo.lyx
 -close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
 -close LyX using CMD-Q
 -open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

This is intended behavior: foo.lyx was not open when you quit LyX, so
it should not be reopened when you relaunch it.

 alternatively...
 -start a new session with no files open
 -open file foo.lyx
 -this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
 (the one with the x mark)
 -close LyX using CMD-Q
 -open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
(the one with the x mark)
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded


This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.


This (#3) is already
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

Feel free to add comments / additional information!

/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the collapse
button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.


I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


Also this one (#2) is already there:
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4967

/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Ivan Werning]

On Nov 12, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Bennett Helm wrote:



I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ 
.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett


Thanks. Done. Perhaps someone can confirm it there and add any  
comments. I filed bugs at...


http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5502
for the #1 issue, about Full Screen.

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5503
for the #2 issue, about toolbars.

and added a confirm comment for Kondrad's previous report at (related  
to my problem #3 about reloading closed documents):

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

-Ivan

three problems

[Ivan Werning]

Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX  
1.6. I thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with  
the many many improvements of 1.6.


I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.

Three small problems I've had:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the  
"collapse" button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide  
one that hides some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right  
of frames/windows in mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in  
any way... maximizing, minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This  
seems like a bug.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which  
ones show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently  
stick across sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some  
preferred set and position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


It seems like LyX makes some attempts to remember these things, but  
after a while (after opening and closing sessions or opening different  
files) it forgets, or reverts to positions used in other files. I  
can't figure out any consistent pattern yet.


Specifically, if I start with no file open. Then remove the View/ 
Update toolbar. Set the toolbar sizes to small. Then close that frame.  
Then when I open a new frame it looks just like that. But if I load  
some previous file it may go back to the old look. Hence, I concluded  
it is doing things file specifically. But no: if you close the frame  
and go back to another file that you had tweaked the toolbars  
differently it will now forget. Or if you start a new file you may get


Sorry if I am not describing this very well, but part of it is that it  
really seems to behave erratically from my point of view, or with an  
odd rule.


Note: I do have the "Allow saving/restoring of window layouts and  
geometry" checked in my preferences. I am also using LyX with the tab  
option enabled. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.


3. I have "load open files from last session" enabled in my  
preferences. However, the contrast in the behavior of the following  
two operations is surely not intended:


-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

alternatively...
-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the  
frame (the one with the "x" mark)

-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

Both operations really should give the same result, since in the  
second case, before you shutdown LyX you can verify that no file is  
open, e.g. go to View and it reports "No Documents Open!" so this  
isn't a matter of an open buffer without a window (as I am used to  
having in Emacs).


Thanks!

-Ivan

Re: three problems

[Murat Yildizoglu]

I do meet the proble 2 in Windows XP SP3 too.
I have not yet checked other two problems.
Murat

2008/11/12 Ivan Werning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Congratulations and applause to the developers! I love the new LyX 1.6. I
> thought 1.5.6 was already awesome and I am still playing with the many many
> improvements of 1.6.
>
> I'm using the mac version with OS X 10.5.5.
>
> Three small problems I've had:
>
> 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the "collapse"
> button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
> some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
> mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
> minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.
>
> 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
> show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
> sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
> position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.
>
>

Re: three problems

[Bennett Helm]

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the "collapse"
> button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
> some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
> mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
> minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.

I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.

> 2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
> show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
> sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
> position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.



In general, sessions handling needs work, but please do enter this
into bugzilla as well. (Your description was fine.)

> 3. I have "load open files from last session" enabled in my preferences.
> However, the contrast in the behavior of the following two operations is
> surely not intended:
>
> -start a new session with no files open
> -open file foo.lyx
> -close this file using CMD-W or selecting close from File menu
> -close LyX using CMD-Q
> -open LyX again: you will NOT have foo.lyx loaded, as expected

This is intended behavior: foo.lyx was not open when you quit LyX, so
it should not be reopened when you relaunch it.

> alternatively...
> -start a new session with no files open
> -open file foo.lyx
> -this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
> (the one with the "x" mark)
> -close LyX using CMD-Q
> -open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded

This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



-start a new session with no files open
-open file foo.lyx
-this time: close this file clicking on the upper left button of the frame
(the one with the "x" mark)
-close LyX using CMD-Q
-open LyX again: you WILL have foo.lyx loaded


This is *not* intended. Again, please enter this into bugzilla.


This (#3) is already
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

Feel free to add comments / additional information!

/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Konrad Hofbauer]

Bennett Helm wrote:

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ivan Werning
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1. Exiting from Full Screen; when I get out of full screen the "collapse"
button (not sure what it is called; I mean the little wide one that hides
some menus and toolbars) that lives on the upper right of frames/windows in
mac OS X disappears. I can't then recover it in any way... maximizing,
minimizing, resizing doesn't revive it. This seems like a bug.


I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/.


2. Another problem is related to the toolbars. If I customize which ones
show and their position my choices do not seem to consistently stick across
sessions. I'm not sure what I have to do to get some preferred set and
position of toolbars saved as a default for new files.


Also this one (#2) is already there:


/Konrad

Re: three problems

[Ivan Werning]

On Nov 12, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Bennett Helm wrote:



I can confirm this. Please enter it into bugzilla: http://bugzilla.lyx.org/ 
.

Thanks for reporting these.

Bennett


Thanks. Done. Perhaps someone can confirm it there and add any  
comments. I filed bugs at...


http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5502
for the #1 issue, about Full Screen.

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5503
for the #2 issue, about toolbars.

and added a confirm comment for Kondrad's previous report at (related  
to my problem #3 about reloading closed documents):

http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5458

-Ivan