unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Neal Becker
Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B, 
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.

What is the best lyx approach?



Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 03.09.2010 15:13, schrieb Neal Becker:


Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.


see this older mail from me:
http://osdir.com/ml/editors.lyx.general/2004-10/msg00161.html

regards Uwe


Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 9/3/2010 9:13 AM, Neal Becker wrote:

Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.


The braces just shrink the space between the minus sign and B.  You can 
add them in the math editor by typing \{ (which will create an inset 
surrounded by {}).


What is the best lyx approach?


You might try the following key sequence (no spaces, I'm just adding 
them for legibility):

\{ ctrl-M - right-arrow B

\{ creates the inset (surrounded by LaTeX braces) to shrink the spacing.

ctrl-M puts you in text mode, so that the minus sign becomes a hyphen 
(which is shorter).


The right arrow gets you out of text mode (I assume you want B typeset 
in italics) but keeps you inside the braces.


HTH,
Paul




unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Neal Becker
Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B, 
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.

What is the best lyx approach?



Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 03.09.2010 15:13, schrieb Neal Becker:


Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.


see this older mail from me:
http://osdir.com/ml/editors.lyx.general/2004-10/msg00161.html

regards Uwe


Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 9/3/2010 9:13 AM, Neal Becker wrote:

Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.


The braces just shrink the space between the minus sign and B.  You can 
add them in the math editor by typing \{ (which will create an inset 
surrounded by {}).


What is the best lyx approach?


You might try the following key sequence (no spaces, I'm just adding 
them for legibility):

\{ ctrl-M - right-arrow B

\{ creates the inset (surrounded by LaTeX braces) to shrink the spacing.

ctrl-M puts you in text mode, so that the minus sign becomes a hyphen 
(which is shorter).


The right arrow gets you out of text mode (I assume you want B typeset 
in italics) but keeps you inside the braces.


HTH,
Paul




unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Neal Becker
Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B, 
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.

What is the best lyx approach?



Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Am 03.09.2010 15:13, schrieb Neal Becker:


Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.


see this older mail from me:
http://osdir.com/ml/editors.lyx.general/2004-10/msg00161.html

regards Uwe


Re: unary minus

2010-09-03 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 9/3/2010 9:13 AM, Neal Becker wrote:

Inserting the following in math mode
[A|-B]
the minus appears as an binary operator rather than a unary operator on B,
so the minus is too big and the space to B is too large.

Using tex code:
[A|{-B}] looks better, although I thing the minus is still too large.


The braces just shrink the space between the minus sign and B.  You can 
add them in the math editor by typing \{ (which will create an inset 
surrounded by {}).


What is the best lyx approach?


You might try the following key sequence (no spaces, I'm just adding 
them for legibility):

\{ ctrl-M - right-arrow B

\{ creates the inset (surrounded by LaTeX braces) to shrink the spacing.

ctrl-M puts you in text mode, so that the minus sign becomes a hyphen 
(which is shorter).


The right arrow gets you out of text mode (I assume you want B typeset 
in italics) but keeps you inside the braces.


HTH,
Paul




Re: unary minus

2004-10-17 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:52:37PM +0200, Lyx User wrote:
 Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?

No.

 Or does it actually exists in latex?

It does not. TeX does or does not add a bit of space in certain places
to differentiate between unary and binary minus. This works fairly well,
but in some situation you have to fix this manually.

 I did a search, but could not find anything better than just using
 '-'.  I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look very
 nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering whether
 someone figured this out for me already.

This might be a olace where such intervention is necessary although I'd
think that TeX would _not_ add the operator space here.

Andre'


Re: unary minus

2004-10-17 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:52:37PM +0200, Lyx User wrote:
 Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?

No.

 Or does it actually exists in latex?

It does not. TeX does or does not add a bit of space in certain places
to differentiate between unary and binary minus. This works fairly well,
but in some situation you have to fix this manually.

 I did a search, but could not find anything better than just using
 '-'.  I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look very
 nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering whether
 someone figured this out for me already.

This might be a olace where such intervention is necessary although I'd
think that TeX would _not_ add the operator space here.

Andre'


Re: unary minus

2004-10-17 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:52:37PM +0200, Lyx User wrote:
> Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?

No.

> Or does it actually exists in latex?

It does not. TeX does or does not add a bit of space in certain places
to differentiate between unary and binary minus. This works fairly well,
but in some situation you have to fix this manually.

> I did a search, but could not find anything better than just using
> '-'.  I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look very
> nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering whether
> someone figured this out for me already.

This might be a olace where such intervention is necessary although I'd
think that TeX would _not_ add the operator space here.

Andre'


unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Lyx User
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.

Thanks.



Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Uwe Sthr
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
No.
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
Where do you need negative spaces? If the minus doesn't follow on a 
number or letter, it doesn't have surrounding space.
(To avoid the space in general, set a LaTeX-brace around it, e.g. type 
a\{- b in LyX or $a{-}b$ in LaTeX.)

The problem in $[-\infty, \infty]$ is, that the minus is too long. To 
avoid this, you can put the minus in mathematical text (that means 
\textrm (shortcut M-m m) in LyX). To have a middle size minus, write two 
minuses in \textrm. You can also use a half space (C-space in LyX) after 
the minus, I attached several possibilities.

regards Uwe
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Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Herbert Voss
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
this is the default behaviour ...
If you want to change this to a text minus with the same
behaviour ( but it looks ugly! ), write into preamble:
\DeclareMathSymbol{-}{\mathbin}{operators}{2D}
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Lyx User
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.

Thanks.



Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Uwe Sthr
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
No.
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
Where do you need negative spaces? If the minus doesn't follow on a 
number or letter, it doesn't have surrounding space.
(To avoid the space in general, set a LaTeX-brace around it, e.g. type 
a\{- b in LyX or $a{-}b$ in LaTeX.)

The problem in $[-\infty, \infty]$ is, that the minus is too long. To 
avoid this, you can put the minus in mathematical text (that means 
\textrm (shortcut M-m m) in LyX). To have a middle size minus, write two 
minuses in \textrm. You can also use a half space (C-space in LyX) after 
the minus, I attached several possibilities.

regards Uwe
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Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Herbert Voss
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
this is the default behaviour ...
If you want to change this to a text minus with the same
behaviour ( but it looks ugly! ), write into preamble:
\DeclareMathSymbol{-}{\mathbin}{operators}{2D}
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Lyx User
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.

Thanks.



Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Uwe StÃhr
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
No.
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
Where do you need negative spaces? If the minus doesn't follow on a 
number or letter, it doesn't have surrounding space.
(To avoid the space in general, set a LaTeX-brace around it, e.g. type 
"a\{- b" in LyX or "$a{-}b$" in LaTeX.)

The problem in "$[-\infty, \infty]$" is, that the minus is too long. To 
avoid this, you can put the minus in mathematical text (that means 
\textrm (shortcut M-m m) in LyX). To have a middle size minus, write two 
minuses in \textrm. You can also use a half space (C-space in LyX) after 
the minus, I attached several possibilities.

regards Uwe
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Re: unary minus

2004-10-11 Thread Herbert Voss
Lyx User wrote:
Is there a special unary minus in the math panel somewhere?
Or does it actually exists in latex? I did a search, but could
not find anything better than just using '-'.
I think intervals such as $[-\infty, \infty)$ don't look
very nice. I could use some negative space, though I was wondering
whether someone figured this out for me already.
this is the default behaviour ...
If you want to change this to a text minus with the same
behaviour ( but it looks ugly! ), write into preamble:
\DeclareMathSymbol{-}{\mathbin}{operators}{"2D}
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes