Hello Peter:

 

CHR$(136) is what you seek.

 

Rather than perform PRINTCHR$(136) on several laptops in order to see if the
lower case Greek letter Pi emerges, two pages within the NATIVE manual show
all of the character shapes: page 18 for the M100 laptop, and page 19 for
the M102 and M200 laptops.

 

The NATIVE manual file (as well as every file of NATIVE) is available for
inload at the Club100 Member Upload Library.  Follow the path Club100 Member
Upload Library/Ron Wiesen/NATIVE/Native.pdf.

 

See page 18 which shows all of the character shapes of the M100 laptop.
Character code 136 [i.e., CHR$(136)] produces the character shape of a !
symbol that's been rotated 180 degrees.

 

See page 19 which shows all of the character shapes of the M102 and M200
laptops.  Character code 136 [i.e., CHR$(136)] produces the character shape
of the lower case Greek letter Pi.

 

Keeper of the Primordial Bit (born of the Big Bit Bang), -= Ron Wiesen =-

 

-----Original Message-----
From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Vollan
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 18:05
To: Model 100 Discussion
Subject: Re: [M100] math error

 

Great, remind me of what CHR$() I shoiuld check, I will be glad to

chime in with the info and serial number of my unit.

 

 

On 4 September 2015 at 02:13, VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN

<jan.vandenboss...@vivaqua.be> wrote:

> Hey!

> 

> And I thought I was being ignored. :-o

> 

> I will have to dig out my M100 to confirm this.

> 

> As far as I can see there are 2 differences that happened during Model 100
production:

> - update of the character set

> - update of the trig-table = the famous pi-error

> 

> AFAIR, the M100 I have has a Serial number beginning with 4, placing the
production date in 1984. (Big Brother is watching us!) As far as I know, all
the M100 that the rest of you guys use, have serial numbers from 1983. Now
the question is: did the 2 changes (see above) occur simultaneous? That can
only be answered by testing every machine we have and checking production
dates. Like I proposed in 2013... OR check out the product number: mine is
(I just found the message, see below) 26-3801A, the A stamped. That might
also give an indication.

> 

> But first, like I said, I will dig out my M100, M102s and confirm all
this.

> 

> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus

> Jan-80             """""

> @ work            ( @ @ )

> --------------.ooo--(_)--ooo.---

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com
[mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of VANDEN BOSSCHE JAN

> Sent: maandag 10 juni 2013 09:28

> To: Model 100 Discussion

> Subject: Re: [M100] M100 character set(s) ?

> 

> Hello,

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Jan Vanden Bossche

> 

>> I have a Model 100 with the same character set as all my

>> 102s and 200s. And it is produced in the US. I think it's

>> improbable they split export and domestic production that

>> strict.

> 

> Excuse me. Like all other Model Ts, my model 100 was "custom

> manufactured in Japan for Tandy Corporation".

> 

> Still, I checked yesterday, it has the model 200/102 character set.

> 

> It has the product number 26-3801A (the A stamped) and a s/n that starts

> with a 40...

> 

> Greetings from the TyRannoSaurus

> Jan-80             """""

> @ work            ( @ @ )

> --------------.ooo--(_)--ooo.---

> CORRECT ANSWER TO SPAM = [DELETE]

> 

> Have some more PI ;-)

> 

> 1 CLS:CLEAR:SCREEN,0

> 10 PRINT:L=0:GOSUB80:PRINT

> 20 P1=4*ATN(1)

> 22 PRINT" = 4*ATN(1) =";P1

> 24 L=80:GOSUB80

> 30 P2=2*ATN(3D13):PRINT

> 32 PRINT" = 2*ATN(3D13) =";P2

> 34 L=160:GOSUB80

> 40 PRINT@260,CHR$(136):L=261:GOSUB80

> 42 PRINT@261,;

> 50 A$=INPUT$(1)

> 52 END

> 80 R=INT(L/40):C=L-R*40:X=C*6:Y=R*8

> 82 LINE(X,Y+1)-(X+4,Y+1)

> 84 LINE(X+1,Y+2)-(X+1,Y+6)

> 86 LINE(X+3,Y+2)-(X+3,Y+5)

> 88 PSET(X+4,Y+6):REM print PI at L

> 90 RETURN

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: M100 [mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Comet

> Sent: zaterdag 15 augustus 2015 23:14

> To: Model 100 Discussion

> Subject: Re: [M100] math error

> 

> Hi Ron, you wrote on Friday, August 14, 2015 4:20 AM:

> The system ROM of the Model 100 laptop has one error within its logarithm

> table.  Rather than "some early model 100s" being afflicted, my

> understanding is that the erroneous logarithm table is present in the
system

> ROM of all Model 100 laptops regardless of manufacturing date.

> 

> Apart from it being a trigonometric (not logarithmic) table in error, it

> might be that some "late model 100s" are unafflicted, given that it is
known

> that Model 100s exist with a "cleaned up" character set based on the
[early]

> Model 102/200, as noted by Jan Vanden Bossche.

> I am unaware if it has been confirmed/disproved whether such "late model"

> Model 100s universally have the ATN error.

> 

> A relevant posting regarding variant models is excerpted below:

> 

> From: Jan Vanden Bossche

> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 11:45 AM

> To: 'Model 100 Discussion'

> Subject: Re: [M100] M100 character set(s) ?

> 

> I have a Model 100 with the same character set as all my 102s and 200s.
And

> it is produced in the US. I think it's improbable they split export and

> domestic production that strict.

> 

> It's far more than [the PI symbol].

> 

> The difference between the early and the later characters set - the later

> being implemeted in the 200 and the 102 too - goes beyond the PI symbol.
The

> whole character set is 'cleaned up'. The best way to see it is by running
my

> DIGICS.BA program on an early M100 and a later one, or a 102, and compare

> the output.

> 

> One thing, e.g., is that all accented characters are on the correct
baseline

> in the second character set. They're all over the place in the first.

> 

> Actually, I once asked that all people ran the PI-program, send me the

> output for the calculation of PI, and the result for chr$(136). That way
we

> could tell:

> - if the calculating ROM error is associated with the early character set

> - what the serial number was when it occurred.

> 

> DIGICS and PI are available in the Club100 Member Upload Library/Jan
Vanden

> Bossche.

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