Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-22 Thread Kurt McCullum
Telcom emulates a vt52 On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, at 4:28 PM, Brian White wrote: > I said the modem is the telnet client. > > Telnet is a tcp/ip protocol and there is no such thing as tcp/ip on a 100. No > networking hardware and not enough cpu or ram to do anything useful if there > were such a

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Brian White
I said the modem is the telnet client. Telnet is a tcp/ip protocol and there is no such thing as tcp/ip on a 100. No networking hardware and not enough cpu or ram to do anything useful if there were such a thing as a network card. The modem has it's own cpu and ram and tcp/ip stack software, and

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Brian White
Yup you just use TELCOM. Or any terminal app but the built-in telcom is all you need. -- bkw On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 4:03 PM Jeff Gonzales wrote: > So would you still use the built-in terminal or is there an actual telnet > client available for the m100 now? > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 1:58 PM

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Steve Baker
Awesome! Yep, I remember doing many ATDP connections back in the early days. In the video I only highlighted “at” for brevity and timing. Great stuff all around! And thanks again to whoever posted about the book “Endless Loop: The History of the BASIC Programming Language” by Mark J. Lorenzo,

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Peter Vollan
ATDT stands for attention, Dial, Tone (with P meaning Pulse), so I too was quite surprised that AT commands worked that way. On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 13:32, Steve Baker wrote: > Hiya Jeff, > > I use the Terminal program in my Tandy 102… once I set the Stat correctly > (baud rate, etc.) and then

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Jeff Gonzales
How do you get the built-in terminal program to work with FTP? Ascii mode? Also, where do I find the 45-degree "elbow" serial adapter? On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:14 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Hiya Jeff, > > I use the Terminal program in my Tandy 102… once I set the Stat correctly > (baud rate,

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Steve Baker
Hiya Jeff, I use the Terminal program in my Tandy 102… once I set the Stat correctly (baud rate, etc.) and then hit F4 for Term, then I’m connected to the gadget and the gadget is connected to the Internet. From there, I simply type: atdt URL:port to connect to whatever you want to hit (for

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Jeff Gonzales
So would you still use the built-in terminal or is there an actual telnet client available for the m100 now? On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 1:58 PM Brian K. White wrote: > On 2/20/21 5:22 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? I have only done it with > > telnet on

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-21 Thread Brian K. White
On 2/20/21 5:22 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: How do you connect to remote BBS' with this?  I have only done it with telnet on a computer.  How do AT commands work on wifi?  Does the device have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using modems?? The remote side is a telnet server

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
" Do the AT commands now let you specify an IP address or something?" The nail head... hit it, you did. There is no standard for these... these AT extensions are custom to this devices, written up their documentation. The general idea being to make the "modem" compatible with legacy terminal

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
On Feb 20, 2021, at 4:37 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate with? TCP, optionally with some telnet in band control sequences, but mostly just raw TCP. I have used it to talk plain ascii to a telnettable BBS, I have used it to

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
Is the manual online? I'm just curious how it works. Normally I telnet into BBS' these days to play TradeWars 2002 (lol). Either that or use PuTTY. Do the AT commands now let you specify an IP address or something? What protocol is used to make the connection? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 6:17 PM

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
Wow, crazy. I guess AT commands have come a long way from ATDT9,,,1800555 hahaha. So, what protocol is the device expecting the other end to communicate with? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 5:50 PM Joshua O'Keefe wrote: > On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > > > How do you

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
I seem to recall WiModem232 worked for me after fiddling with a patched TS-DOS. It would be nice project for someone just to completely rework the timeout code in TS-DOS. And there's always TEENY which doesn't do any timeouts. -- John.

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Stephen Adolph
..all this talk of wifi!. A while back I did some experimentation with TS-DOS running over Bluetooth, and then across a public IP network to an instance of LaddieAlpha running at home. Almost worked ;) Wasn't reliable, latency + delays that can occur anywhere in the byte stream. I wonder if

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Steve Baker
Hello again Jeff! Feel free to check out the websites for more details on either / both of these gadgets, they work great. Once you connect to your home WiFi (easy) then it’s a simple Hayes command to connect... the documentation is quite comprehensive. If you’re still not sure after

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
On Feb 20, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > > How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? ATDThostname.domain.com: > I have only done it with telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work on > wifi? There are some AT commands to set SSID and WPA key. Then you ATDT to the remote

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
Having a SIM sound cool, but what does the other side have? Is it possible to have another Guru on the other side? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:52 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Hello Jeff! > > Both the GuruModem and the WiModem232 work very well with my T102s. Both > create solid connections (the Model

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
How do you connect to remote BBS' with this? I have only done it with telnet on a computer. How do AT commands work on wifi? Does the device have a SIM card and, of so, are the remote BBS' still using modems?? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 4:54 PM Brian White wrote: > The post you quoted showed how

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Brian White
The post you quoted showed how it's connected, so I don't know what you mean. Do you mean how do you connect to your wifi? Or how do you connect to a remote BBS? It's all done by AT commands described in the manual like any other modem. On Sat, Feb 20, 2021, 11:21 AM Jeff Gonzales wrote: >

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Steve Baker
Hello Jeff! Both the GuruModem and the WiModem232 work very well with my T102s. Both create solid connections (the Model T’s baud rate is the only bottleneck). Each has their own unique advantages (GuruModem has a MicroSIM card, while WiModem232 has a terrific screen so you can see all the

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-02-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
How does connectivity work for these devices? On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:45 PM Steve Baker wrote: > Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my > WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping > them in and out). > >

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-12 Thread Jim Manley
Hi B9, Joshua, Brian, and Steve, The various options you provided are all of interest and very much appreciated. I do want a WiFi interface (if it works) because there are a bunch of other ancient systems that it would be useful to use it with, including some S-100 boat anchors; Osborne 1,

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-12 Thread Steve Baker
Yep, exactly. I ordered two of this 25-pin M:M gender changer (one for my WiModem232 and one for the GuruModem, ‘cos I didn’t want to keep swapping them in and out). https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066HP5G/ Here are photos of both

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-12 Thread Brian White
This thing helps with attaching the WiModem232 to a 100/200/NEC https://github.com/bkw777/WiModem_to_100 https://photos.app.goo.gl/hjoC3vnfZxWbFPRW6 The serial port on 102 is upside down, so you can't use this on 102, but on 102 you can use a generic mini gender-changer. The wimodem232 sticks

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
The Serial to WiFi bridge that I use with my 102 (and occasionally used on the Amiga until I got a gurunet adapter) is the WiModem232. It emulates a Hayes-compatible modem, but the uplink is a TCP connection rather than a phone line. https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModem232 I

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread B 9
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:52 AM Jim Manley wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi > converters connecting their M100s to networks, and where they've found the > best prices. Is it simply a matter of using TERM on the M100 set to a >

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Not sure exactly what I get out of the Eneloops. Seems comparable to Alkalines. I go back and forth between batteries and the wall wart. Maybe others have done careful tests. A feature of the Eneloops is they don't lose their charge sitting around. So you can always have a set on the shelf,

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread Jim Manley
Hi John, Thanks for the rapid response! Now that I think about it, I may have read that rechargeables can be charged inside an M100 if external power is routed to the battery compartment from the external power jack, and a charging circuit is included to prevent overcharging. That would require

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:53 AM Jim Manley wrote: > > I've heard that rechargeable batteries can be used in M100s by changing a > resistor inside a unit, but I can't find any details about the value of the > new resistor, which one it is on the PCB, etc. Also, is the resistor value > dependent

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-11 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > Hi everyone, > > I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 > when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, > and now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in inflation- If I'd had the money back

Re: [M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-09 Thread Steve Baker
Fantastic, welcome Jim! I’m pretty new around here too, just got my first T102 late-spring and have been having a blast. This community is nothing short of amazing and I learn stuff every single day. > I'd greatly appreciate hearing anyone's experiences with serial-to-WiFi > converters

[M100] Serial-to-WiFi Converters and Rechargeable Batteries

2021-01-09 Thread Jim Manley
Hi everyone, I just joined the flock and I'm an Original Flavor owner of a 32 KB M100 when they were going for $399 (worth $964.98 today) in the mid-1980s, and now I can add nine more to my collection for that much in inflation-adjusted value! I would have waited for that price decrease, but