Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-28 Thread Peter Vollan
With me it is kind of the opposite... On 27 April 2015 at 10:09, Shaun M. Wheeler wrote: > Some friends and I considered starting a Fido-style Xbee bbs network and > Raspberry Pi SBCs, but as with everything we do, we lost interest when we > ran out of beer. > > An adhoc network of Model Ts woul

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Gary L Phillips
Yup, and they mean that. There are higher gain antennas, but you can get in big trouble for using them without a permit, or for running the full power into the 15db gain antenna. If they FCC imposes fines, they are generally very high. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Roach wrote: > Excuse

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
Excuse me, this line According to the product manual, the xBee Xtend has up to 1 Watt of power and it can legally use anything up to 8.1db at full power, or 15.1db at reduced power, according to the manual. should say According to the product manual, the xBee Xtend has up to 1 Watt of power and

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
QRSS is ultra slow morse code. Not at all what you're looking for Yes, but it is pretty interesting. However, beware of the FCC regulations. There are restrictions on what you can do with those type accepted routers and switches, and what kind of antennas you can use without special permits or li

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
Wait til you read about bouncing signals off of derelict satellites... ;) I read about the wifi when you mentioned it originally, but I'm trying to avoid relying on a traditional internet connection. I guess long range wifi is a thing, though. I'll be reading about QRSS. I've seen it mentioned

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Gary L Phillips
OK, to clear up a couple of things here. QRSS is ultra slow morse code. Not at all what you're looking for I think. Yes, it can travel really long distances on low power, but you aren't going to download Netflix videos with it unless you have amazing patience and a 10 thousand year lifespan. :D Q

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
I read about the wifi when you mentioned it originally, but I'm trying to avoid relying on a traditional internet connection. I guess long range wifi is a thing, though. I'll be reading about QRSS. I've seen it mentioned in my brief research on this topic, but I'm unfamiliar with it beyond that

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
You mean you have other folks with M100s and HPs within a few kilometers? I do! There are four or five of us with various vintage portables. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM John Gardner wrote: > 100 mW can cross oceans, given the right techniques. > > One such is called by hams "QRSS". > > htt

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread John Gardner
100 mW can cross oceans, given the right techniques. One such is called by hams "QRSS". http://www.ka7oei.com/qrss1.html Of course I know this is'nt what you guys have in mind, but perusing the page will leave you with some notion of the trade-offs between power, bandwidth, and range. And may

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Brian Brindle
27;d be to a Zigbee network, but it might > give you some ideas: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network > > m > > - Original Message - > *From:* Andrew Roach > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 1:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
it might > give you some ideas: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_mesh_network > > m > > - Original Message - > *From:* Andrew Roach > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 1:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] Xbee and m100 > > I k

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread MikeS
- Original Message - From: Andrew Roach To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:19 PM Subject: [M100] Xbee and m100 > ...would it also be conceivable that I could concoct some kind of router at > the receiving end, and have other people sharing this connection

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread MikeS
Model 100 Discussion Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [M100] Xbee and m100 I know what you mean there! Maybe one of the radio guys will chime in. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM Shaun M. Wheeler wrote: Nothing more than a couple of (somewhat legible) diagrams. We

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
;> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:54 PM MikeS wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The challenge in your project would probably be the antenna; it's >>>>>>> largely the 'directional' aspect of the antenna

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
;>>>> drastically shorter range. >>>>>> >>>>>> Antenna height and any obstacles in the path are also major factors >>>>>> affecting distance. >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a pretty active long distance Wi

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
horter range. >>>>> >>>>> Antenna height and any obstacles in the path are also major factors >>>>> affecting distance. >>>>> >>>>> There's a pretty active long distance WiFi community out there; here's >>>

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
>>>> >>>> Antenna height and any obstacles in the path are also major factors >>>> affecting distance. >>>> >>>> There's a pretty active long distance WiFi community out there; here's >>>> a pair of Linksys WRT54Gs communic

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
re also major factors >>> affecting distance. >>> >>> There's a pretty active long distance WiFi community out there; here's a >>> pair of Linksys WRT54Gs communicating over 300+ km: >>> >>> http://ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/article/view/

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
here's a pretty active long distance WiFi community out there; here's a >> pair of Linksys WRT54Gs communicating over 300+ km: >> >> http://ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/article/view/487/402 >> >> Worth experimenting! >> >> m >> >>

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
here's a > pair of Linksys WRT54Gs communicating over 300+ km: > > http://ci-journal.net/index.php/ciej/article/view/487/402 > > Worth experimenting! > > m > > - Original Message - > *From:* Andrew Roach > *To:* Model 100 Discussion > *Sent:* M

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Shaun M. Wheeler
Some friends and I considered starting a Fido-style Xbee bbs network and Raspberry Pi SBCs, but as with everything we do, we lost interest when we ran out of beer. An adhoc network of Model Ts would be a neat idea. On Apr 27, 2015 11:23 AM, "Andrew Roach" wrote: > I have been reading about the

Re: [M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread MikeS
Andrew Roach To: Model 100 Discussion Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:19 PM Subject: [M100] Xbee and m100 I have been reading about the Xbee Xtend 900MHz Pro. This is a wireless serial modem with a transmission range of up to 40 miles LOS (with a high gain directional antenna)

[M100] Xbee and m100

2015-04-27 Thread Andrew Roach
I have been reading about the Xbee Xtend 900MHz Pro. This is a wireless serial modem with a transmission range of up to 40 miles LOS (with a high gain directional antenna) I'm not super familiar with RF, but I know there are a fair number of Ham guys on the group. If I was to build the proper ci