Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-13 Thread Tom Dison
Those floppies drives are rare!

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 00:25 Tim Russell  wrote:

> I still have one, and a PX-4 as well.  Both can also use a battery-powered
> serial-connected 3.5 floppy drive, which I also happily still have.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 13:51 Tom Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Also, if you're looking for an 8-bit CP/M laptop, the Epson PX-8 is
>> exactly that. It runs CP/M from ROM and uses a RAM disk for storage.
>> (Strangely, it uses a cassette for mass storage.)
>>
> --
Faith without Works is Dead...


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-12 Thread Tim Russell
I still have one, and a PX-4 as well.  Both can also use a battery-powered
serial-connected 3.5 floppy drive, which I also happily still have.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 13:51 Tom Wilson  wrote:

> Also, if you're looking for an 8-bit CP/M laptop, the Epson PX-8 is
> exactly that. It runs CP/M from ROM and uses a RAM disk for storage.
> (Strangely, it uses a cassette for mass storage.)
>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Wilson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:00 PM Kevin Becker  wrote:

> So, plug and play in M100.   Still evaluating if it can be "solder free"
> in T102 using a clip.  Both solutions need the adapter board.
>
>
>
Thanks, Kevin. That's  pretty much what I expected to hear. I was expecting
some sort of additional RAM disk, since CP/M really needs the full 64K for
doing its own thing (and CP/M 3 could use banking to get a lot more than
64K of RAM of course, by that point, DOS was the new king, and CP/M was
already on its way to the grave.)


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Dison
I have about 6, a few with the 64k multiunit for the RAM driver. I have a
dual-serial Rpi that provides 4 floppies using Vfloppy and a serial console
 on the other port. I need to start selling some!

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 14:51 Tom Wilson  wrote:

> Also, if you're looking for an 8-bit CP/M laptop, the Epson PX-8 is
> exactly that. It runs CP/M from ROM and uses a RAM disk for storage.
> (Strangely, it uses a cassette for mass storage.)
>
> I had one of those, too, once upon a time... and I also don't know where
> that went
>
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:47 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:
>
>> This has me curious... IIRC, the REX ROM mod requires that I disconnect
>> the CS line on my internal ROM chip. On the T102, this is surface mounted.
>> If you figure out how to build a 64K "all RAM" memory model, is this also
>> going to require cutting the CS line on the ROM, or is there a better way
>> to do it?
>>
>> I love CP/M, but I'm not quite in a place where I want to modify SMT
>> components. If this requires hardware changes, I'll probably grab a T-100
>> for that purpose (or maybe even try to find a T-200).
>>
>>
>> Tom Wilson
>> wilso...@gmail.com
>> (619)940-6311
>> K6ABZ
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:49 AM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> REX2 was an original attempt at a module that supported CP/M.  It did
>>> not survive!  I think I made 6 of them total.  Those 6 worked fine as a
>>> standard REX.
>>> With only 128k of RAM, it would have needed some pretty fancy software
>>> to turn a flash chip into a read/write disk drive.
>>>
>>> REXCPM takes a different approach - no flash, just a whopping big SRAM.
>>>
>>> Plus many other improvements in design that I have aggregated  up over
>>> all the different REX related activities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Abraham Moller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it
 would run CP/M and have flash storage:
 http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support

 Jon


 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:

> Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during
> Christmas break. She is better at it than I am.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one
>> in stock.
>> I can get going on a build and get back to you?
>> My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do
>>> have an extra one I could part with.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the
>>> fun I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is
>>> available anywhere.
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> --
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
>
 --
Faith without Works is Dead...


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Kevin Becker
This is from an earlier reply about the present state of the hardware.  
I've got a T102 with a regular REX so I used this as an excuse to pick 
up a M100 that I'm in the process of refurbishing as soon as the parts 
come in.



In M100 and T102, you need an additional board
1) in M100, the adapter plugs into the system bus and connects via a 3 
wire cable to REXCPM.  No soldering, plug and play.
2) in T102, the adapter plugs into the adjacent 8kRAM socket, and 
connects via a 3 wire cable to REXCPM. An additional wire needs to run 
to M37 Pin 11.  I'm currently evaluating if a clip can be used or if it 
needs to be soldered.


So, plug and play in M100.   Still evaluating if it can be "solder 
free" in T102 using a clip.  Both solutions need the adapter board.



-- Original Message --
From: "Tom Wilson" 
To: "M100 Mailing List" 
Sent: 3/11/2020 3:47:58 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] REX3?

This has me curious... IIRC, the REX ROM mod requires that I disconnect 
the CS line on my internal ROM chip. On the T102, this is surface 
mounted. If you figure out how to build a 64K "all RAM" memory model, 
is this also going to require cutting the CS line on the ROM, or is 
there a better way to do it?


I love CP/M, but I'm not quite in a place where I want to modify SMT 
components. If this requires hardware changes, I'll probably grab a 
T-100 for that purpose (or maybe even try to find a T-200).



Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:49 AM Stephen Adolph  
wrote:
REX2 was an original attempt at a module that supported CP/M.  It did 
not survive!  I think I made 6 of them total.  Those 6 worked fine as 
a standard REX.
With only 128k of RAM, it would have needed some pretty fancy software 
to turn a flash chip into a read/write disk drive.


REXCPM takes a different approach - no flash, just a whopping big 
SRAM.


Plus many other improvements in design that I have aggregated  up over 
all the different REX related activities.




On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Abraham Moller  
wrote:
Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it 
would run CP/M and have flash storage:  
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support


Jon


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  
wrote:
Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during 
Christmas break. She is better at it than I am.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:
It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last 
one in stock.

I can get going on a build and get back to you?
My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum  
wrote:
Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do 
have an extra one I could part with.


Kurt

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all 
the fun I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if 
REX3 is available anywhere.

-Jason



--
Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ

Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Wilson
Also, if you're looking for an 8-bit CP/M laptop, the Epson PX-8 is exactly
that. It runs CP/M from ROM and uses a RAM disk for storage. (Strangely, it
uses a cassette for mass storage.)

I had one of those, too, once upon a time... and I also don't know where
that went

Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:47 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:

> This has me curious... IIRC, the REX ROM mod requires that I disconnect
> the CS line on my internal ROM chip. On the T102, this is surface mounted.
> If you figure out how to build a 64K "all RAM" memory model, is this also
> going to require cutting the CS line on the ROM, or is there a better way
> to do it?
>
> I love CP/M, but I'm not quite in a place where I want to modify SMT
> components. If this requires hardware changes, I'll probably grab a T-100
> for that purpose (or maybe even try to find a T-200).
>
>
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:49 AM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> REX2 was an original attempt at a module that supported CP/M.  It did not
>> survive!  I think I made 6 of them total.  Those 6 worked fine as a
>> standard REX.
>> With only 128k of RAM, it would have needed some pretty fancy software to
>> turn a flash chip into a read/write disk drive.
>>
>> REXCPM takes a different approach - no flash, just a whopping big SRAM.
>>
>> Plus many other improvements in design that I have aggregated  up over
>> all the different REX related activities.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Abraham Moller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it
>>> would run CP/M and have flash storage:
>>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:
>>>
 Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during
 Christmas break. She is better at it than I am.

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
 wrote:

> It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one
> in stock.
> I can get going on a build and get back to you?
> My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum 
> wrote:
>
>> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do
>> have an extra one I could part with.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>>
>> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the
>> fun I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is
>> available anywhere.
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>> --
 Tom Wilson
 wilso...@gmail.com
 (619)940-6311
 K6ABZ

>>>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Wilson
This has me curious... IIRC, the REX ROM mod requires that I disconnect the
CS line on my internal ROM chip. On the T102, this is surface mounted. If
you figure out how to build a 64K "all RAM" memory model, is this also
going to require cutting the CS line on the ROM, or is there a better way
to do it?

I love CP/M, but I'm not quite in a place where I want to modify SMT
components. If this requires hardware changes, I'll probably grab a T-100
for that purpose (or maybe even try to find a T-200).


Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:49 AM Stephen Adolph 
wrote:

> REX2 was an original attempt at a module that supported CP/M.  It did not
> survive!  I think I made 6 of them total.  Those 6 worked fine as a
> standard REX.
> With only 128k of RAM, it would have needed some pretty fancy software to
> turn a flash chip into a read/write disk drive.
>
> REXCPM takes a different approach - no flash, just a whopping big SRAM.
>
> Plus many other improvements in design that I have aggregated  up over all
> the different REX related activities.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Abraham Moller  wrote:
>
>> Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it would
>> run CP/M and have flash storage:
>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>> Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during
>>> Christmas break. She is better at it than I am.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one
 in stock.
 I can get going on a build and get back to you?
 My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.


 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum 
 wrote:

> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do
> have an extra one I could part with.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>
> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the
> fun I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is
> available anywhere.
> -Jason
>
>
> --
>>> Tom Wilson
>>> wilso...@gmail.com
>>> (619)940-6311
>>> K6ABZ
>>>
>>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
REX2 was an original attempt at a module that supported CP/M.  It did not
survive!  I think I made 6 of them total.  Those 6 worked fine as a
standard REX.
With only 128k of RAM, it would have needed some pretty fancy software to
turn a flash chip into a read/write disk drive.

REXCPM takes a different approach - no flash, just a whopping big SRAM.

Plus many other improvements in design that I have aggregated  up over all
the different REX related activities.



On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:44 PM Abraham Moller  wrote:

> Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it would
> run CP/M and have flash storage:
> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during
>> Christmas break. She is better at it than I am.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one in
>>> stock.
>>> I can get going on a build and get back to you?
>>> My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do have
 an extra one I could part with.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:

 I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the
 fun I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is
 available anywhere.
 -Jason


 --
>> Tom Wilson
>> wilso...@gmail.com
>> (619)940-6311
>> K6ABZ
>>
>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Abraham Moller
Speaking of the REX3, was the REX2 ever released? It sounds like it would
run CP/M and have flash storage:
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REX2_-_custom_REX_for_CP/M_support

Jon


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM Tom Wilson  wrote:

> Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during Christmas
> break. She is better at it than I am.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
> wrote:
>
>> It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one in
>> stock.
>> I can get going on a build and get back to you?
>> My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>>
>>> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do have
>>> an extra one I could part with.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun
>>> I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available
>>> anywhere.
>>> -Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> --
> Tom Wilson
> wilso...@gmail.com
> (619)940-6311
> K6ABZ
>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Tom Wilson
Kids are great for that. I had my daughter crimping RJ45s during Christmas
break. She is better at it than I am.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM Stephen Adolph 
wrote:

> It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one in
> stock.
> I can get going on a build and get back to you?
> My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:
>
>> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do have
>> an extra one I could part with.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>>
>> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun
>> I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available
>> anywhere.
>> -Jason
>>
>>
>> --
Tom Wilson
wilso...@gmail.com
(619)940-6311
K6ABZ


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
It is, I'd be happy to put one together.  I just send out my last one in
stock.
I can get going on a build and get back to you?
My kids are my new shipping department.  Fun times.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:20 PM Kurt McCullum  wrote:

> Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do have an
> extra one I could part with.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
>
> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun
> I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available
> anywhere.
> -Jason
>
>
>


Re: [M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Kurt McCullum
Steve is your go-to for that. If he doesn't have any on hand, I do have an 
extra one I could part with. 

Kurt

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 10:15 AM, Jason Benson wrote:
> I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun I've 
> been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available anywhere.
> -Jason


[M100] REX3?

2020-03-11 Thread Jason Benson
I finally got my NEC PC 8201A working last night, and I with all the fun
I've been having with REX on my M100 I was wondering if REX3 is available
anywhere.
-Jason