(",) Re: general question

2005-04-25 Thread ladyalenavonkiri


Hi Kevin,
I found this great site on the internet that has writings concerning
mail art.

http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/mail_art.html

>From there you can link to many essays, two of which concern
documentation,

one by K. Frank Jensen:

http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/when_is_a_documentation_a_documentation.html

and one by Guido Vermeulen: 

http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/guido_vermeulen_on_documentations.html


Dawn Amato

--- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, kevin thurston
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? it seems to
> swim upstream to some basic tenets (of course, one can quickly respond
> 'whose tenets?' but hopefully i just diffused that answer.)
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Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)

2005-04-19 Thread ladyalenavonkiri


Hi Ben
The addresses are listed in the database under "contact list".
The yahoo group over at IUOMA for some reason has a much larger list.
Ane what is your address so I can get some things off. I also get 
addresses from recent calls that are displayed and listed on the web. 

"un bel di" 
 Dawn Amato

--- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i find it more curious that a mail art discussion list
> lists no address
> 
> i guess this is mail art in the digital platform.
> 
> 
> people document their own work to explore it at a later date, to 
have a 
> notion of what they were working on, to see it again.  and yet 
these 
> documents too can become / are something to work with at a later 
date.
> 
> best,
> b.saved
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2005, at 10:02 AM, kevin thurston wrote:
> 
> >
> > actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny
> > but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me 
wonder...
> >
> > On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is 
often
> >> regretted
> >>  and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes 
and 
> >> see what
> >>  we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many 
> >> correspondences
> >>  one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, 
devilmaycare. Go
> >> Devil!
> >>  It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of 
all the 
> >> lonely
> >>  people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric 
era, 
> >> feeling
> >> preordained
> >>  to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and
> >> metaphysics
> >>  because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the 
sun. 
> >> ive been
> >>  enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in 
the sky
> >>  of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my 
bicycle
> >>  i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-
cheerful 
> >> set
> >>  as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say
> >>  all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el 
ca 
> >> planet. G!
> >>
> >>  --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would 
you
> >>> like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes 
around
> >>> comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do
> >>> photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that 
> >>> artists
> >>> send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for
> >>> themselves?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  why do so many mail-artists document what they send out?
>  why do house-dogs eat their vomit?  B
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Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)

2005-04-18 Thread ben

i find it more curious that a mail art discussion list
lists no address

i guess this is mail art in the digital platform.


people document their own work to explore it at a later date, to have a 
notion of what they were working on, to see it again.  and yet these 
documents too can become / are something to work with at a later date.

best,
b.saved


On Apr 18, 2005, at 10:02 AM, kevin thurston wrote:

>
> actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny
> but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me wonder...
>
> On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often
>> regretted
>>  and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and 
>> see what
>>  we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many 
>> correspondences
>>  one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go
>> Devil!
>>  It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the 
>> lonely
>>  people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, 
>> feeling
>> preordained
>>  to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and
>> metaphysics
>>  because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. 
>> ive been
>>  enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky
>>  of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle
>>  i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful 
>> set
>>  as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say
>>  all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca 
>> planet. G!
>>
>>  --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you
>>> like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around
>>> comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do
>>> photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that 
>>> artists
>>> send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for
>>> themselves?
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 why do so many mail-artists document what they send out?
 why do house-dogs eat their vomit?  B


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Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)

2005-04-18 Thread kevin thurston

actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny
but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me wonder...

On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often
> regretted 
>  and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and see what
>  we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many correspondences 
>  one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go
> Devil! 
>  It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the lonely
>  people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, feeling
> preordained 
>  to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and
> metaphysics 
>  because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. ive been 
>  enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky 
>  of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle 
>  i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful set
>  as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say 
>  all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca planet. G!
>  
>  --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>  > 
>  > geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you 
>  > like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around 
>  > comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do 
>  > photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists 
>  > send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for 
>  > themselves? 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  > > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
>  > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  > > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out?
>  > > why do house-dogs eat their vomit?  B
>  > > 
>  > > 
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Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)

2005-04-16 Thread john barlow

i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often regretted 
and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and see what 
we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many correspondences 
one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go Devil! 
It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the lonely 
people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, feeling 
preordained 
to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and metaphysics 
because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. ive been 
enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky 
of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle 
i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful set
as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say 
all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca planet. G!

--- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you 
> like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around 
> comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do 
> photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists 
> send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for 
> themselves? 
> 
> 
> --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out?
> > why do house-dogs eat their vomit?  B
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)

2005-04-16 Thread ross_priddle


geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you 
like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around 
comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do 
photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists 
send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for 
themselves? 


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> In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> why do so many mail-artists document what they send out?
> why do house-dogs eat their vomit?  B
> 
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Re: (",) general question

2005-04-15 Thread PARLLW

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