(",) Re: general question
Hi Kevin, I found this great site on the internet that has writings concerning mail art. http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/mail_art.html >From there you can link to many essays, two of which concern documentation, one by K. Frank Jensen: http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/when_is_a_documentation_a_documentation.html and one by Guido Vermeulen: http://www.vorticeargentina.com.ar/escritos/guido_vermeulen_on_documentations.html Dawn Amato --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, kevin thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? it seems to > swim upstream to some basic tenets (of course, one can quickly respond > 'whose tenets?' but hopefully i just diffused that answer.) > cheers, > -- > proud to get in on the ground floor > of the "ain't kevin great?" industry. > --buck downs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)
Hi Ben The addresses are listed in the database under "contact list". The yahoo group over at IUOMA for some reason has a much larger list. Ane what is your address so I can get some things off. I also get addresses from recent calls that are displayed and listed on the web. "un bel di" Dawn Amato --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i find it more curious that a mail art discussion list > lists no address > > i guess this is mail art in the digital platform. > > > people document their own work to explore it at a later date, to have a > notion of what they were working on, to see it again. and yet these > documents too can become / are something to work with at a later date. > > best, > b.saved > > > On Apr 18, 2005, at 10:02 AM, kevin thurston wrote: > > > > > actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny > > but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me wonder... > > > > On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often > >> regretted > >> and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and > >> see what > >> we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many > >> correspondences > >> one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go > >> Devil! > >> It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the > >> lonely > >> people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, > >> feeling > >> preordained > >> to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and > >> metaphysics > >> because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. > >> ive been > >> enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky > >> of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle > >> i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio- cheerful > >> set > >> as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say > >> all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca > >> planet. G! > >> > >> --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you > >>> like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around > >>> comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do > >>> photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that > >>> artists > >>> send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for > >>> themselves? > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? > why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > >> http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka > >> http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> To visit your group on the web, go to: > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > -- > > proud to get in on the ground floor > > of the "ain't kevin great?" industry. > > --buck downs > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka > > http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.seasonalbk.net > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)
i find it more curious that a mail art discussion list lists no address i guess this is mail art in the digital platform. people document their own work to explore it at a later date, to have a notion of what they were working on, to see it again. and yet these documents too can become / are something to work with at a later date. best, b.saved On Apr 18, 2005, at 10:02 AM, kevin thurston wrote: > > actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny > but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me wonder... > > On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often >> regretted >> and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and >> see what >> we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many >> correspondences >> one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go >> Devil! >> It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the >> lonely >> people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, >> feeling >> preordained >> to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and >> metaphysics >> because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. >> ive been >> enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky >> of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle >> i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful >> set >> as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say >> all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca >> planet. G! >> >> --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you >>> like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around >>> comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do >>> photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that >>> artists >>> send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for >>> themselves? >>> >>> >>> --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! >> http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka >> http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> To visit your group on the web, go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > -- > proud to get in on the ground floor > of the "ain't kevin great?" industry. > --buck downs > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka > http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > www.seasonalbk.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)
actually, i think bill's answer is/was kinda funny but doesn't address the question--and few have which makes me wonder... On 4/16/05, john barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often > regretted > and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and see what > we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many correspondences > one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go > Devil! > It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the lonely > people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, feeling > preordained > to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and > metaphysics > because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. ive been > enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky > of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle > i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful set > as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say > all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca planet. G! > > --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you > > like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around > > comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do > > photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists > > send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for > > themselves? > > > > > > --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? > > > why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka > http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- proud to get in on the ground floor of the "ain't kevin great?" industry. --buck downs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)
i don't eat my vomit perse, but any nondocumented sending is often regretted and frequently. one day we will all look in all the sent boxes and see what we said in chrono order. on many lists many accounts many correspondences one day there will be time even for that. Meanwhile, devilmaycare. Go Devil! It brings me back to my point of the other message. Think of all the lonely people out there, in our tense frightened multiply hysteric era, feeling preordained to greater thoughtfulness, more cogent understanding of time and metaphysics because they're not out on patios flickering like cds in the sun. ive been enjoying this weekend despite the big catastrophe machine in the sky of world politics and ninoesque weather patterns, so on my bicycle i was noticing the unhappy, feeling the glare of the patio-cheerful set as they make their ways home to minimal effects. To whom I say all you nee'd s a bike, fly around your city or region, qu'el ca planet. G! --- ross_priddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you > like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around > comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do > photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists > send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for > themselves? > > > --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? > > why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question (that was unkind, bill)
geez, don't you think that was a little unkind, bill? how would you like it if people treated you like that? remember: what goes around comes around! the question might as well have been put: "why do photographers save the negatives?" it's not enough for you that artists send out the originals: you fault them for keeping a record for themselves? --- In ma-network@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? > why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/S.QlOD/3MnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: (",) general question
In a message dated 4/15/2005 1:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: why do so many mail-artists document what they send out? why do house-dogs eat their vomit? B [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rkgkPB/UOnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM ~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/