Shell Script Query
Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shell Script Query
I'm not 100 percent f,oar witht he shell but have you tried to doa make install or somethign on the app? if not can you type ./ then run the app that way as long as you CD to the dir in which the app resides? Hth somewaht. On Sep 7, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shell Script Query
Hello Gordon, Shell scripts don't execute when invoked unless you have changed file permissions on your system to allow them to execute. This is a security precaution, because you don't, in general, want arbitrary scripts to run on your system without your express permission, and by default the files you create or copy will not have executable privilege. If I want to run a shell script from the Terminal command line, I first make it executable: chmod +x scriptname If you only want the script owner to be able to execute the script, type: chmod u+x scriptname In this example, substitute the actual name of the script for scriptname. Then, run the script with the command: ./scriptname The dot slash typed before the name of the script (with no spaces) refers to the current directory, which is not usually included in your $PATH (which are the directories that are searched by default for executable files). Presumably the script takes care of the one-time installation, and you won't use it again. Those two commands typed from Terminal -- the chmod +x before the scriptname to make sure the file is executable and the ./scriptname to run the shell script file named scriptname should be all you need. Technically, you also need to allow read permission to a shell script file in order to run it, but you already have it in most cases, including the case you describe. The alternative to running the chmod command to change the permissions mode of a file, if you have the file and directory on another attached disk, is to copy the file with the cp -p option. The -p switch preserves the permissions of the file you are copying, which includes executable status for shell script files. HTH Cheers, Esther On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shell Script Query
I’m guessing that you’re advocating using the Terminal to do this. Possibly that might work but I’m shamefully and woefully unfamiliar with Terminal stuff and it kind of makes me a bit nervous. Thing is I really don’t want to make a mistake here. I need it to be right. Gordon On 7 Sep 2014, at 20:07, Sarah k Alawami marri...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not 100 percent f,oar witht he shell but have you tried to doa make install or somethign on the app? if not can you type ./ then run the app that way as long as you CD to the dir in which the app resides? Hth somewaht. On Sep 7, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/
Re: Shell Script Query
Hi Esther Excellently explained, as always. This is a cross-platform application which I’m trying to install. I can’t share any specifics at this point owing to an NDA. But the developers say you need to be logged in as “Root” in order to install it. Presumably, this relates to the permissions issue which you raise in your post. Once the app is installed, you can do everything from your own account so hopefully, it should only be necessary to do this once. This has actually cause me quite a lot of frustration all day because I need to get this done, and my woeful lack of Terminal experience is letting me down badly yet again. I learned a few things when I installed and configured Snow Leopard Server. But that was about fifty million years ago, and I’ve probably forgotten most or all of it owing to the fact that I’ve allowed myself to become very lazy in terms of installing software. OK, so let’s go back to your post. I can play the app anywhere on the system, so if I log in as root, it can probably sit in the root directory of the hard disk if that makes things simpler? I will go and re-read your post to see if I can get my head around what I need to do. Once done, then it’s pretty much plain sailing from there on in. Many thanks, as always. Incidentally, Esther, I refrained from contacting you regarding your Mac Access mail account because we still have a record of your settings here. So if it’s alright with you I’ll go ahead and create a new account using those settings? If not, by all means get back to us off list if you’d like to discuss this further. Many thanks again. Kindest regards Gordon On 7 Sep 2014, at 20:41, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Gordon, Shell scripts don't execute when invoked unless you have changed file permissions on your system to allow them to execute. This is a security precaution, because you don't, in general, want arbitrary scripts to run on your system without your express permission, and by default the files you create or copy will not have executable privilege. If I want to run a shell script from the Terminal command line, I first make it executable: chmod +x scriptname If you only want the script owner to be able to execute the script, type: chmod u+x scriptname In this example, substitute the actual name of the script for scriptname. Then, run the script with the command: ./scriptname The dot slash typed before the name of the script (with no spaces) refers to the current directory, which is not usually included in your $PATH (which are the directories that are searched by default for executable files). Presumably the script takes care of the one-time installation, and you won't use it again. Those two commands typed from Terminal -- the chmod +x before the scriptname to make sure the file is executable and the ./scriptname to run the shell script file named scriptname should be all you need. Technically, you also need to allow read permission to a shell script file in order to run it, but you already have it in most cases, including the case you describe. The alternative to running the chmod command to change the permissions mode of a file, if you have the file and directory on another attached disk, is to copy the file with the cp -p option. The -p switch preserves the permissions of the file you are copying, which includes executable status for shell script files. HTH Cheers, Esther On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/ --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to
Re: Shell Script Query
Gordon - Although these are fairly simple commands to be executed in the terminal, you should also be able to make the same changes using the GUI. Just use Command I to get info and possibly expand the disclosure triangle for Sharing and Permissions if you feel more comfortable trying to do it that way. On Sep 7, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Excellently explained, as always. This is a cross-platform application which I’m trying to install. I can’t share any specifics at this point owing to an NDA. But the developers say you need to be logged in as “Root” in order to install it. Presumably, this relates to the permissions issue which you raise in your post. Once the app is installed, you can do everything from your own account so hopefully, it should only be necessary to do this once. This has actually cause me quite a lot of frustration all day because I need to get this done, and my woeful lack of Terminal experience is letting me down badly yet again. I learned a few things when I installed and configured Snow Leopard Server. But that was about fifty million years ago, and I’ve probably forgotten most or all of it owing to the fact that I’ve allowed myself to become very lazy in terms of installing software. OK, so let’s go back to your post. I can play the app anywhere on the system, so if I log in as root, it can probably sit in the root directory of the hard disk if that makes things simpler? I will go and re-read your post to see if I can get my head around what I need to do. Once done, then it’s pretty much plain sailing from there on in. Many thanks, as always. Incidentally, Esther, I refrained from contacting you regarding your Mac Access mail account because we still have a record of your settings here. So if it’s alright with you I’ll go ahead and create a new account using those settings? If not, by all means get back to us off list if you’d like to discuss this further. Many thanks again. Kindest regards Gordon On 7 Sep 2014, at 20:41, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Gordon, Shell scripts don't execute when invoked unless you have changed file permissions on your system to allow them to execute. This is a security precaution, because you don't, in general, want arbitrary scripts to run on your system without your express permission, and by default the files you create or copy will not have executable privilege. If I want to run a shell script from the Terminal command line, I first make it executable: chmod +x scriptname If you only want the script owner to be able to execute the script, type: chmod u+x scriptname In this example, substitute the actual name of the script for scriptname. Then, run the script with the command: ./scriptname The dot slash typed before the name of the script (with no spaces) refers to the current directory, which is not usually included in your $PATH (which are the directories that are searched by default for executable files). Presumably the script takes care of the one-time installation, and you won't use it again. Those two commands typed from Terminal -- the chmod +x before the scriptname to make sure the file is executable and the ./scriptname to run the shell script file named scriptname should be all you need. Technically, you also need to allow read permission to a shell script file in order to run it, but you already have it in most cases, including the case you describe. The alternative to running the chmod command to change the permissions mode of a file, if you have the file and directory on another attached disk, is to copy the file with the cp -p option. The -p switch preserves the permissions of the file you are copying, which includes executable status for shell script files. HTH Cheers, Esther On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your
Re: Shell Script Query
Can you do sudo champs instead? On Sep 7, 2014, at 23:22, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Excellently explained, as always. This is a cross-platform application which I’m trying to install. I can’t share any specifics at this point owing to an NDA. But the developers say you need to be logged in as “Root” in order to install it. Presumably, this relates to the permissions issue which you raise in your post. Once the app is installed, you can do everything from your own account so hopefully, it should only be necessary to do this once. This has actually cause me quite a lot of frustration all day because I need to get this done, and my woeful lack of Terminal experience is letting me down badly yet again. I learned a few things when I installed and configured Snow Leopard Server. But that was about fifty million years ago, and I’ve probably forgotten most or all of it owing to the fact that I’ve allowed myself to become very lazy in terms of installing software. OK, so let’s go back to your post. I can play the app anywhere on the system, so if I log in as root, it can probably sit in the root directory of the hard disk if that makes things simpler? I will go and re-read your post to see if I can get my head around what I need to do. Once done, then it’s pretty much plain sailing from there on in. Many thanks, as always. Incidentally, Esther, I refrained from contacting you regarding your Mac Access mail account because we still have a record of your settings here. So if it’s alright with you I’ll go ahead and create a new account using those settings? If not, by all means get back to us off list if you’d like to discuss this further. Many thanks again. Kindest regards Gordon On 7 Sep 2014, at 20:41, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Gordon, Shell scripts don't execute when invoked unless you have changed file permissions on your system to allow them to execute. This is a security precaution, because you don't, in general, want arbitrary scripts to run on your system without your express permission, and by default the files you create or copy will not have executable privilege. If I want to run a shell script from the Terminal command line, I first make it executable: chmod +x scriptname If you only want the script owner to be able to execute the script, type: chmod u+x scriptname In this example, substitute the actual name of the script for scriptname. Then, run the script with the command: ./scriptname The dot slash typed before the name of the script (with no spaces) refers to the current directory, which is not usually included in your $PATH (which are the directories that are searched by default for executable files). Presumably the script takes care of the one-time installation, and you won't use it again. Those two commands typed from Terminal -- the chmod +x before the scriptname to make sure the file is executable and the ./scriptname to run the shell script file named scriptname should be all you need. Technically, you also need to allow read permission to a shell script file in order to run it, but you already have it in most cases, including the case you describe. The alternative to running the chmod command to change the permissions mode of a file, if you have the file and directory on another attached disk, is to copy the file with the cp -p option. The -p switch preserves the permissions of the file you are copying, which includes executable status for shell script files. HTH Cheers, Esther On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by
Re: Shell Script Query
To add to my thing onthe terminal. YOU cannot brake anything.I wasin in a linode shell for 3 straight days as root and I did not brake a thing. Also the sudo command will let you be root for a short while for example sudo shutdown -s now or sudo shutdown -h +240 Hope that helps. On Sep 7, 2014, at 23:22, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hi Esther Excellently explained, as always. This is a cross-platform application which I’m trying to install. I can’t share any specifics at this point owing to an NDA. But the developers say you need to be logged in as “Root” in order to install it. Presumably, this relates to the permissions issue which you raise in your post. Once the app is installed, you can do everything from your own account so hopefully, it should only be necessary to do this once. This has actually cause me quite a lot of frustration all day because I need to get this done, and my woeful lack of Terminal experience is letting me down badly yet again. I learned a few things when I installed and configured Snow Leopard Server. But that was about fifty million years ago, and I’ve probably forgotten most or all of it owing to the fact that I’ve allowed myself to become very lazy in terms of installing software. OK, so let’s go back to your post. I can play the app anywhere on the system, so if I log in as root, it can probably sit in the root directory of the hard disk if that makes things simpler? I will go and re-read your post to see if I can get my head around what I need to do. Once done, then it’s pretty much plain sailing from there on in. Many thanks, as always. Incidentally, Esther, I refrained from contacting you regarding your Mac Access mail account because we still have a record of your settings here. So if it’s alright with you I’ll go ahead and create a new account using those settings? If not, by all means get back to us off list if you’d like to discuss this further. Many thanks again. Kindest regards Gordon On 7 Sep 2014, at 20:41, Esther mori...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello Gordon, Shell scripts don't execute when invoked unless you have changed file permissions on your system to allow them to execute. This is a security precaution, because you don't, in general, want arbitrary scripts to run on your system without your express permission, and by default the files you create or copy will not have executable privilege. If I want to run a shell script from the Terminal command line, I first make it executable: chmod +x scriptname If you only want the script owner to be able to execute the script, type: chmod u+x scriptname In this example, substitute the actual name of the script for scriptname. Then, run the script with the command: ./scriptname The dot slash typed before the name of the script (with no spaces) refers to the current directory, which is not usually included in your $PATH (which are the directories that are searched by default for executable files). Presumably the script takes care of the one-time installation, and you won't use it again. Those two commands typed from Terminal -- the chmod +x before the scriptname to make sure the file is executable and the ./scriptname to run the shell script file named scriptname should be all you need. Technically, you also need to allow read permission to a shell script file in order to run it, but you already have it in most cases, including the case you describe. The alternative to running the chmod command to change the permissions mode of a file, if you have the file and directory on another attached disk, is to copy the file with the cp -p option. The -p switch preserves the permissions of the file you are copying, which includes executable status for shell script files. HTH Cheers, Esther On Sep 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Gordon Smith gor...@mac-access.net wrote: Hello everybody I have a problem to which I’m hoping somebody can give me a definitive response. I have an application which I need to install on to a machine, but the application in question was ported from LINUX and installs via a shell script. When I open the script in the usual way, it is opening Xcode rather than installing as I had expected. Is this normal behaviour and, if so, is there a work-around? Many thanks. Gordon --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --- To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at the list's public Mail Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan,
