Re: [Mac-access]: editing video on the mac.

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
As long as you're only wanting to do basic editing (cutting and pasting, as 
well as converting to other formats, quicktime pro will do what you want.  
(quicktime that comes with osx won't edit, it only plays, it's 30 bucks or 
thereabouts, but it works well, and I've used it on a number of occasions to 
fix videos we've had here.  It doesn't do the fancy things, such as audio/video 
editing on their own (there's some packages that will allow you to edit the 
video and audio tracks separately), and it won't generally allow you to touch 
up the videos (changing shading, brightness and the like) but for just basic 
editing, it doesn't get much simpler than quicktime pro.
I'm sure there's some free ones out there that work too, but since quicktime 
does what I need, I never bothered to look into anything else.
hth.
On Dec 30, 2014, at 1:18 PM, stuart young wrote:

 Hi all.
 Can anyone recommend video editing software that can be used by a blind 
 person? 
 Many thanks for your help.
 Kind regards.
 stuart.
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to get VoiceOver to read Documents

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
hth.
On Jan 1, 2015, at 8:23 AM, April Brown wrote:

 How do I get VoiceOver to read Libre Office Documents?
 
 Or even Mail, Pdf's Pages, text edit etc?
 
 CMD A does not read or beep.
 
 Two finger swipe up or down does not read anything either.
 
 With Rotor on Paragraphs, it only reads letters at a time, or occasionally 
 words.  
 
 Doesn't seem to matter if Quick Nav is on or off.  No difference.
 
 I have a whole list of ways I have tried.
 
 Eventually, I need to be able to edit.  I need to be able to read first.  
 What setting is not set?
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Using VoiceOver in Libre Office

2015-01-03 Thread Ryan Mann
If you have a newer Mac, Pages is free. It can export  into Word and other 
formats. Unlike Libre Office, it doesn't separate every paragraph into a 
separate VoiceOver group.



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 On Jan 3, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
 
 Libreoffice is an interesting program.  It devides each and every paragraph 
 into a new voiceover group.  It's possible to use it to write documents, but 
 I usually build my documents in text edit, then if I need more 
 complicated/fancy saving options, I'll open the document in libreoffice, then 
 save it in those additional formats.  Text edit is way more than just a 
 simple editor, it will save in rtf format by default, and while it will read 
 word doc formats, it won't save in them, but that's what I use libreoffice 
 for. :)
 And, it's interface is way easier to navigate too.
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Using VoiceOver in Libre Office

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
Libreoffice is an interesting program.  It devides each and every paragraph 
into a new voiceover group.  It's possible to use it to write documents, but I 
usually build my documents in text edit, then if I need more complicated/fancy 
saving options, I'll open the document in libreoffice, then save it in those 
additional formats.  Text edit is way more than just a simple editor, it will 
save in rtf format by default, and while it will read word doc formats, it 
won't save in them, but that's what I use libreoffice for. :)
And, it's interface is way easier to navigate too.

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[Mac-access]: TV shows on the macintosh and iTunes

2015-01-03 Thread william lomas
Hello to all,
I have purchased some TV shows last year, and when I am in the latest version 
of iTunes, they're not appearing, do I have to download them 1st to play them?
 I thought, that I could simply play them, directly from the cloud. It seems 
stupid having to take up valuable disk space, just to watch a few TV episodes.
Could I just stream them directly to my iPhone instead?
Regards, William
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Re: [Mac-access]: How to get VoiceOver to read Documents

2015-01-03 Thread christopher hallsworth
How about control option a?
 On 3 Jan 2015, at 17:19, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
 
 The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
 hth.
 On Jan 1, 2015, at 8:23 AM, April Brown wrote:
 
 How do I get VoiceOver to read Libre Office Documents?
 
 Or even Mail, Pdf's Pages, text edit etc?
 
 CMD A does not read or beep.
 
 Two finger swipe up or down does not read anything either.
 
 With Rotor on Paragraphs, it only reads letters at a time, or occasionally 
 words.  
 
 Doesn't seem to matter if Quick Nav is on or off.  No difference.
 
 I have a whole list of ways I have tried.
 
 Eventually, I need to be able to edit.  I need to be able to read first.  
 What setting is not set?
 
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I have only been using the Mac for one year on and off, so I am unable to 
answer that question.it happens to me also from time to time.it is no real big 
deal once you are familiar with it,only takes about a minute to log out and log 
back in or as Andy suggested the shortcut to quit the program



 On 3 Jan 2015, at 22:41, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did to get 
 there.
 At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
 I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and then log 
 back in again and this clears it.
 
 
 
  On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because 
  mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  
  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an 
  item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
 
  Thanks,
 
  Ann
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread John Panarese
  From the Apple menu, arrow down to, Force Quit.  Then, select Mail from the 
table and confirm you want to force quit it.


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I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
 is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
 and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
 shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Ann Byrne
How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did 
to get there.

At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and 
then log back in again and this clears it.




 On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu 
i don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close 
the mail program??


 Thanks,

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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and then log back 
in again and this clears it.



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I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
 is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
 and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
 shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Andy Collins
A handy quick way to get to force quit is with the keystroke Command Options 
Escape -

Andy
 On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
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 and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Text Correction: I am about to throw? my IPhone across the room!

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel
Oh well, you got it sorted, but I have a problem I can't fix.  The stupid auto 
correction is preventing me from searching for vista os on tiger direct, 
because even though it says vista os when I press enter or search, it 
automatically changes it to vista is, and of course tiger doesn't know what 
theheck to do with that.  I've given up web page browsing on the iphone, and 
use the desktop only for that, since it's obviously not subject to such 
nonsense.

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[Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Ann Byrne
I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i 
don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the 
mail program??


Thanks,

Ann

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Re: [Mac-access]: How to get VoiceOver to read Documents

2015-01-03 Thread Travis Siegel

On Jan 3, 2015, at 12:55 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:

 How about control option a?

Hah, yeah, that's what I meant.  Sorry for the slip up there.

 On 3 Jan 2015, at 17:19, Travis Siegel tsie...@softcon.com wrote:
 
 The keystroke is control-command-a, not just command-a.
 hth.
 On Jan 1, 2015, at 8:23 AM, April Brown wrote:
 
 How do I get VoiceOver to read Libre Office Documents?
 
 Or even Mail, Pdf's Pages, text edit etc?
 
 CMD A does not read or beep.
 
 Two finger swipe up or down does not read anything either.
 
 With Rotor on Paragraphs, it only reads letters at a time, or occasionally 
 words.  
 
 Doesn't seem to matter if Quick Nav is on or off.  No difference.
 
 I have a whole list of ways I have tried.
 
 Eventually, I need to be able to edit.  I need to be able to read first.  
 What setting is not set?
 
 
 
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[Mac-access]: iTunes crashing

2015-01-03 Thread George Cham
Hi gang,
When in iTunes and scrolling through apps to install and I'm using voice over 
very fast, iTunes crashes. 
Anyone else having problems with the app?


George 

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[Mac-access]: List of hot keys for OSX?

2015-01-03 Thread Ann Byrne
I found a list of VoiceOver keystrokes which is maybe complete.  Is 
there somewhere a list of keystrokes for OSX, as well?  I hadn't seen 
the shortcut for force quit, for example.  Or do I just extract the 
keystrokes from the system as i work through it?


thanks,


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Re: [Mac-access]: List of hot keys for OSX?

2015-01-03 Thread Jason White
Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I found a list of VoiceOver keystrokes which is maybe complete.  Is there
 somewhere a list of keystrokes for OSX, as well?  

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201236

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[Mac-access]: audio conversion software

2015-01-03 Thread Ismael Herrera
Happy new year everyone!

Does anyone know of any audio software that can convert APE and FLAC files to 
MP3?  

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