Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-13 Thread Gordon Smith
Very kind pif you Josh, but I usually double and triple-check my data when 
dealing with this kind of thing.  You have to be spot on the ball.  But 
factually, I am now looking towards a third-party solution for our mail 
services.  Apple has gone far too far down the road of squeezing out those 
customers such as myself who wish to host more than just the bog-standard WIKI 
on an internal network.  There are alternatives, so I'm going to try one and if 
it works out right I'll pay the price and make the switch.  Fear not all, we 
will not be migrating back to Windows, no need for quite that amount of drastic 
measures. :)

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On 12 Jul 2013, at 18:14, Josh Gregory joshkar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Call me a really generic person, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, and 
 even one like this is understandable

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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-13 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello George

Yes, these things do happen but they shouldn't happen!  I pride myself on our 
record of up-time over the last 4 years or so.  In fact, since 12 April 2010, 
we have only been off line for a total of just over 4 hours.  Most of that 
down-time was due to network outages.  However, this was a silly error which I 
should not have made.  We'll find a work-around.

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On 12 Jul 2013, at 22:13, George Cham george.c...@outlook.com wrote
 These things happen. 
 Don't stress too much. 
 I too am having problem's with Reinstalling osx mountin lion. 

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Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-12 Thread Gordon, Lynne Tracy
Hi all

This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury myself 
under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was probably due to 
a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.

Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), the 
mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain more in 
keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended that 
mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.

And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.

Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by now 
if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator who 
requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by a 
company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of the 
useful elements of its server application and made others much more difficult 
to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web applications.  
Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the configuration data 
that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make manual adjustments to 
services.  They seem to think that all administrator will require no more than 
the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with which to work in a 
corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems configuring websites to 
function in the new incarnation of Server.

I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we no 
longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.

All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot cross-grade 
and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of having somebody 
with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old system remotely, or 
unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop which is Mountain Lion 
compatible so that Lynne can access the server remotely, I'm stuck.

All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail and 
your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am prepared 
to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months which, I 
hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching over the 
services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept my humble 
apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has now resulted 
in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock under which I can 
curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to call me a bungler 
on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!

Kind regards

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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-12 Thread Josh Gregory
Call me a really generic person, but it's okay, we all make mistakes, and even 
one like this is understandable

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Gordon, Lynne  Tracy supp...@mac-access.net 
wrote:

 Hi all
 
 This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
 myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
 probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.
 
 Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
 mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
 gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
 tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
 tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), 
 the mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain 
 more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended 
 that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.
 
 And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
 error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
 on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.
 
 Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by 
 now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
 server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator 
 who requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by 
 a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of 
 the useful elements of its server application and made others much more 
 difficult to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web 
 applications.  Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the 
 configuration data that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make 
 manual adjustments to services.  They seem to think that all administrator 
 will require no more than the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with 
 which to work in a corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems 
 configuring websites to function in the new incarnation of Server.
 
 I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
 using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we 
 no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
 upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
 been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.
 
 All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
 cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
 having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
 system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
 which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
 remotely, I'm stuck.
 
 All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail 
 and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am 
 prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months 
 which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching 
 over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept 
 my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has 
 now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock 
 under which I can curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to 
 call me a bungler on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!
 
 Kind regards
 
 --- Gordon Smith ---
 
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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-12 Thread pauline lawler

Gordon,

Errors happen in the most regulated of houses. smile


Pauline Lawler
- Original Message - 
From: Gordon, Lynne  Tracy supp...@mac-access.net

To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!



Hi all

This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.


Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail 
server mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be 
aware we are gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have 
already expired; tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by 
the time the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 
13 July 2014), the mail and other services would have been switched over 
to a new domain more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In 
fact, I had intended that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk 
domain for all services.


And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually 
expires on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.


Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed 
by now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of 
the server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an 
administrator who requires more than what Apple considers the standard 
services required by a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, 
Apple has removed many of the useful elements of its server application 
and made others much more difficult to customise.  The latter group 
includes both mail and web applications.  Apache is one area where Apple 
has tinkered so much with the configuration data that it's becoming almost 
impossible to find it to make manual adjustments to services.  They seem 
to think that all administrator will require no more than the jazzy new 
graphical tools they provide one with which to work in a corporate 
environment.  Thus, I am having problems configuring websites to function 
in the new incarnation of Server.


I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since 
we no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for 
Lynne to upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, 
and has always been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions 
of Server.


All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
remotely, I'm stuck.


All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding 
mail and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed! 
I am prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 
12 months which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task 
of switching over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean 
time, please accept my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple 
typing error, but it has now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, 
let me go find that rock under which I can curl up and hide for a while. 
You're within your rights to call me a bungler on this occasion, I really 
stuffed up big time!


Kind regards

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Re: Urgent Service Information, Please Read!

2013-07-12 Thread George Cham
Hi Gordon, 
These things happen. 
Don't stress too much. 
I too am having problem's with Reinstalling osx mountin lion. 


George,

  Sent from my iPad

On 13/07/2013, at 2:10 AM, Gordon, Lynne  Tracy supp...@mac-access.net 
wrote:

 Hi all
 
 This is just one of those occasions when I really wish I could just bury 
 myself under a rock and disappear.  it's an error on my part which was 
 probably due to a typo when I created the database entry way back in 2010.
 
 Unfortunately, tomorrow it seems that our SSL certificate for the mail server 
 mail.tft-bbs.co.uk is due to expire.  As you may or may not be aware we are 
 gradually phasing out the tft-bbs domains.  2 Of them have already expired; 
 tft-bbs.com and tft-bbs.org.uk.  It was intended that by the time the 
 tft-bbs.co.uk certificate elapsed, (which I had on record as 13 July 2014), 
 the mail and other services would have been switched over to a new domain 
 more in keeping with what we are doing at present.  In fact, I had intended 
 that mac-access.net would replace the tft-bbs.co.uk domain for all services.
 
 And it is there, in the year column of the database, where I have made the 
 error.  Instead of expiring on 13 July 2014, the certificate actually expires 
 on 13 July 2013 which, as you obviously are aware, is tomorrow.
 
 Even with this error in place, the switch-over would have been completed by 
 now if, and it's a big if, Apple had not tinkered around with all of the 
 server-side applications, making it far more difficult for an administrator 
 who requires more than what Apple considers the standard services required by 
 a company operating an Ingtranet.  In other words, Apple has removed many of 
 the useful elements of its server application and made others much more 
 difficult to customise.  The latter group includes both mail and web 
 applications.  Apache is one area where Apple has tinkered so much with the 
 configuration data that it's becoming almost impossible to find it to make 
 manual adjustments to services.  They seem to think that all administrator 
 will require no more than the jazzy new graphical tools they provide one with 
 which to work in a corporate environment.  Thus, I am having problems 
 configuring websites to function in the new incarnation of Server.
 
 I would have been quite happy to simply renew the certificate and continue 
 using the existing service.  However, we have a problem there too.  Since we 
 no longer possess such a thing as a USB mouse, it is impossible for Lynne to 
 upgrade the certificate for me.  The process of doing that is, and has always 
 been, inaccessible under Snow Leopard and earlier versions of Server.
 
 All this leaves me in a really difficult situation.  Since I cannot 
 cross-grade and I cannot upgrade, I'm stuck!  Until I can find some way of 
 having somebody with vision help me to upgrade the certificate on the old 
 system remotely, or unless we can find a version of Apple Remote Desktop 
 which is Mountain Lion compatible so that Lynne can access the server 
 remotely, I'm stuck.
 
 All this means that there may bee some undesirable behaviour regarding mail 
 and your clients for a while, until I can get this darn thing fixed!  I am 
 prepared to extend the lifetime of the tft-bbs.co.uk certificate by 12 months 
 which, I hope, should make it possible for me to finish the task of switching 
 over the services we offer to a new server.  In the mean time, please accept 
 my humble apologies for the error.  It was a simple typing error, but it has 
 now resulted in possible kayos for a while.  OK, let me go find that rock 
 under which I can curl up and hide for a while.  You're within your rights to 
 call me a bungler on this occasion, I really stuffed up big time!
 
 Kind regards
 
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