Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-31 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Mary

Many thanks for your suggestions and I also note David's comments-I'll play
around with the settings and experiment.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 30 October 2014 21:10
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

Hi Henry,
If you don't want to use the keyboard commander, then it should be
unchecked. And I think in that case it doesn't matter if you have option
keys checked or not since keyboard commander wouldn't be working. But I
could be wrong. You could experiment and uncheck the option keys and see if
that makes a difference, but I think it won't. Sorry I can't be of more
help.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Mary
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
 Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
 keyboard commander?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
 utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
 mess up the VO keys on the right side?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within
Safari
 I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
 there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
 keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
 have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
 don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
 even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
 from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and
option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and
option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread David Griffith
A few investigative steps.
Have you rebooted
Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists even 
with that
Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response from 
these keys?
Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external 
keyboard it may be a hardware problem

David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread Henry Miller


Hi David

Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.

If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari I
go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window there
is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option keys
and the letter A the applications menu is presented.

When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't have
boot camp on my machine.  

I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I don't
know how to set up an external keyboard.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

A few investigative steps.
Have you rebooted
Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists even
with that
Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response from
these keys?
Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
keyboard it may be a hardware problem

David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread Mary Otten
Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover utility. 
And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that mess up the VO 
keys on the right side?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread David Griffith

A reboot is just another way of saying Have you restarted your Mac?

David

On 30/10/2014 15:58, Henry Miller wrote:


Hi David

Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.

If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari I
go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window there
is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option keys
and the letter A the applications menu is presented.

When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't have
boot camp on my machine.

I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I don't
know how to set up an external keyboard.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

A few investigative steps.
Have you rebooted
Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists even
with that
Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response from
these keys?
Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
keyboard it may be a hardware problem

David Griffith

On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:



Hi

I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.

Can anyone offer a solution?

Best wishes

Henry


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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread Henry Miller


Hi 
Several times

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 30 October 2014 18:05
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

A reboot is just another way of saying Have you restarted your Mac?

David

On 30/10/2014 15:58, Henry Miller wrote:

 Hi David

 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.

 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.

 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
have
 boot camp on my machine.

 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.

 best wishes

 Henry



 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem

 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:



 Hi

 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.

 Can anyone offer a solution?

 Best wishes

 Henry


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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread Henry Miller


Hi Mary

Many thanks for your reply.

I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
keyboard commander?

best wishes

Henry


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
mess up the VO keys on the right side?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Henry,
If you don't want to use the keyboard commander, then it should be unchecked. 
And I think in that case it doesn't matter if you have option keys checked or 
not since keyboard commander wouldn't be working. But I could be wrong. You 
could experiment and uncheck the option keys and see if that makes a 
difference, but I think it won't. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Mary
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
 Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
 keyboard commander?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
 utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
 mess up the VO keys on the right side?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
 I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
 there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
 keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
 have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
 don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
 even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
 from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?

2014-10-30 Thread David Griffith
I have right option key checked in Keyboard commander and it has no impact on 
the normal operation of other commands like command shift A on  
 On my iMac.

 30 Oct 2014, at 21:09, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Henry,
 If you don't want to use the keyboard commander, then it should be unchecked. 
 And I think in that case it doesn't matter if you have option keys checked or 
 not since keyboard commander wouldn't be working. But I could be wrong. You 
 could experiment and uncheck the option keys and see if that makes a 
 difference, but I think it won't. Sorry I can't be of more help.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Mary
 
 Many thanks for your reply.
 
 I have the keyboard commander unchecked and both option keys selected,
 Please could you explain what items should be checked or unchecked in the
 keyboard commander?
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
 Sent: 30 October 2014 17:25
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 Do you perhaps have keyboard commander enabled? It's in the voiceover
 utility. And by default I believe it uses the right option key. Mike that
 mess up the VO keys on the right side?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi David
 
 Many thanks for your set of investigative instructions.
 
 If I press the right command key and right option key plus F within Safari
 I
 go to the Google search page.  However, if I press the right command key
 plus the right shift key plus the letter A for the applications window
 there
 is just a clicking sound.  If I press the left command and left option
 keys
 and the letter A the applications menu is presented.
 
 When I turn keyboard help on all the keys are spoken by VO, and I don't
 have
 boot camp on my machine.  
 
 I do not know how to reboot.  Although I have a blue tooth keyboard, I
 don't
 know how to set up an external keyboard.
 
 best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
 Sent: 30 October 2014 09:38
 To: OS X  iOS Accessibility
 Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Right command and option keys not functioning?
 
 A few investigative steps.
 Have you rebooted
 Have you an external keyboard to try and see if the problem   persists
 even
 with that
 Have you tried turning on keyboard help to see if there is any response
 from
 these keys?
 Do you have boot camp and tried  booting into Windows. ditto with Fusion
 If the key problem persists under Windows or disappears with an external
 keyboard it may be a hardware problem
 
 David Griffith
 On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:00, Henry Miller he...@henryandangela.co.uk
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running Mavericks on a Mac Book Pro and the right command and option
 keys appear not to be functioning .  However, the left command and option
 keys are just fine when used in conjunction with other keys.  
 
 Can anyone offer a solution?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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