Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-22 Thread David Griffith
Not for me unfortunately.

 On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:21, Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 I take it, the dictionary manager didn't fix anything then.
 
 
 
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2014 8:33 AM
 To: mac access
 Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
 1 rowadded message.
 
 
 
 damn! I surmised as much.
 That ridiculous message seriously impedes a VO user.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 8:19 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have just tried it but it has not worked. Has anybody succeeded?
 
 David Griffith
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 21:52, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying
 issue I have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes
 telling how it can be done, but you don't divulge the desired information.
 Cruel! Very Cruel!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where
 one could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your
 suggestion surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This
 change would also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same
 information when we receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
 1 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as
 annoying as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think
 of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put
 the 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night
 owl I am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message
 has some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Marshall
I suppose even if you put in symbol that VO does not announce it would still 
say one row at it or worse, just stop speaking for no reason.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 7:02 pm, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Not for me unfortunately.
 
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 05:21, Debbie April Yuille debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 I take it, the dictionary manager didn't fix anything then.
 
 
 
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2014 8:33 AM
 To: mac access
 Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
 1 rowadded message.
 
 
 
 damn! I surmised as much.
 That ridiculous message seriously impedes a VO user.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 8:19 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have just tried it but it has not worked. Has anybody succeeded?
 
 David Griffith
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 21:52, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 hey,
 Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying
 issue I have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes
 telling how it can be done, but you don't divulge the desired information.
 Cruel! Very Cruel!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where
 one could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your
 suggestion surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This
 change would also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same
 information when we receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
 1 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as
 annoying as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think
 of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put
 the 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night
 owl I am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message
 has some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Chime or some outher sound would be preferable.  However, I cannot recall 
just now but when I started using the Mac, I did ask about an alternative to 
some speech info and all I can recall is David Griffiths telling me where I 
could insert a sound instead.  If only I could recall what this was for but 
maybe David can help out.  I must check my notes.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com

To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
rowadded message.




hey all,
as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
as the 1 row added message.

My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 
1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I 
am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more 
bearable.

Let me know what you think.
i have to do something.

thanks

Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Marshall
wow if you could find any info I would be for ever grateful to you.

Michael
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 7:27 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Chime or some outher sound would be preferable.  However, I cannot recall 
 just now but when I started using the Mac, I did ask about an alternative to 
 some speech info and all I can recall is David Griffiths telling me where I 
 could insert a sound instead.  If only I could recall what this was for but 
 maybe David can help out.  I must check my notes.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
 as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 1 
 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I am 
 at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change would 
also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information when we 
receive new e-mails.
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com

To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
rowadded message.




hey all,
as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
as the 1 row added message.

My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 
1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I 
am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more 
bearable.

Let me know what you think.
i have to do something.

thanks

Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
how would we go about doing this?
thanks again

Michael
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 7:37 pm, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
 could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
 surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change would 
 also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information when we 
 receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
 as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 1 
 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I am 
 at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Phil Halton
I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes telling 
how it can be done, but you don’t divulge the desired information. Cruel! Very 
Cruel!

On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
 could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
 surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change would 
 also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information when we 
 receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
 as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 1 
 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I am 
 at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying issue I 
have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes telling 
 how it can be done, but you don’t divulge the desired information. Cruel! 
 Very Cruel!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
 could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
 surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change would 
 also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information when we 
 receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
 as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 
 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I 
 am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread David Griffith
I have just tried it but it has not worked. Has anybody succeeded?

David Griffith 
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 21:52, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey,
 Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying issue 
 I have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes 
 telling how it can be done, but you don’t divulge the desired information. 
 Cruel! Very Cruel!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where one 
 could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your suggestion 
 surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This change 
 would also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same information 
 when we receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as annoying 
 as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put the 
 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I 
 am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more 
 bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
 Michael
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Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Marshall
damn! I surmised as much.
That ridiculous message seriously impedes a VO user.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 8:19 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have just tried it but it has not worked. Has anybody succeeded?
 
 David Griffith 
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 21:52, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hey,
 Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying issue 
 I have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes 
 telling how it can be done, but you don’t divulge the desired information. 
 Cruel! Very Cruel!
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where 
 one could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your 
 suggestion surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This 
 change would also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same 
 information when we receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall 
 mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 
 rowadded message.
 
 
 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as 
 annoying as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put 
 the 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night owl I 
 am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message has 
 some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice 
 over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more 
 bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.
 
 thanks
 
 Michael
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RE: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible 1 rowadded message.

2014-10-21 Thread Debbie April Yuille
I take it, the dictionary manager didn't fix anything then.

 

From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2014 8:33 AM
To: mac access
Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
1 rowadded message.

 

damn! I surmised as much.
That ridiculous message seriously impedes a VO user.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 8:19 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have just tried it but it has not worked. Has anybody succeeded?

 David Griffith
 On 21 Oct 2014, at 21:52, Michael Marshall mightymaggie...@gmail.com
wrote:

 hey,
 Dictionary manager still seems to be the only way to fix this annoying
issue I have not tried it yet.
 On 22 Oct 2014, at 12:08 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find it odd that you tell us, and michael, that you found the notes
telling how it can be done, but you don't divulge the desired information.
Cruel! Very Cruel!

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah yes Michael, I found my notes, it referred to a mis spelt word where
one could alter this info to a sound which is less intrusive so your
suggestion surely must be a possability regarding the one row added.  This
change would also be helpful in terms of e-mails when we get the same
information when we receive new e-mails.
 - Original Message - From: Michael Marshall
mightymaggie...@gmail.com
 To: mac access mac-access@mac-access.net
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 7:47 AM
 Subject: Looking for feedback on a possible workaround for the horrible
1 rowadded message.


 hey all,
 as anyone who uses VO on the mac will know not many things are as
annoying as the 1 row added message.
 My idea is crude and not ideal but it is the only thing I can think
of.
 If I was to make a new definition in voice-over dictionary i could put
the 1 row added and tell VO to say nothing.
 like i said, it is not ideal but when using a program such as night
owl I am at my wits end with this godforsaken message.
 Obviously apple in their own twisted logic believe that this message
has some sort of value and logically it does. I just wish we had more choice
over what was said, even a ding or chime sound would be a lot more bearable.
 Let me know what you think.
 i have to do something.

 thanks

 Michael
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