Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Dan Crutcher
Believe it or not, I’d like to get that 10GB drive. I have an old voice-mail 
system that runs on DOS 6.6 and can’t handle any drive larger than that — and 
the smaller ones are getting hard to find.

 Hey all,
 
 Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
 internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
 taking if you can make any use of it.
 
 If anyone wants any real antiques [1], I also have a 10.2GB IDE drive, a 60GB 
 IDE drive, an 80GB EIDE drive and a Barracuda 7200.7 160GB EIDE drive. I'm 
 not sure who would want them, but they're all functional.
 
 I also have a 250GB PATA Maxtor drive which I remember as fading away, though 
 I just overwrote it with 0's to erase it without any problem.
 
 You might be able to tell that I found a shelf in a desk which had an old 
 horde from the desktop days.
 
 Bill
 
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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Tanya
Now you all may laugh - I have an old G3 Desktop that I keep Freehand MX on 
because FH will do things that Illustrator won't. I design lots of logo's and 
branding and can't live without FH. Shhh my secret.

Would this Barracuda help the speed in my G3?

I know programs and marketing - ask me about RAM, Hard-drives and I'm a deer in 
the headlights.

Thanks for the offer I appreciate your kindness!

p.s. I had a Maxtor external drive and tons of info on it and BAM - dead!, two 
whopping years of use.


 
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:13 AM, Dan Crutcher dcrutc...@loumag.com wrote:
 
Believe it or not, I’d like to get that 10GB drive. I have an old voice-mail 
system that runs on DOS 6.6 and can’t handle any drive larger than that — and 
the smaller ones are getting hard to find.

 Hey all,
 
 Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
 internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
 taking if you can make any use of it.
 
 If anyone wants any real antiques [1], I also have a 10.2GB IDE drive, a 60GB 
 IDE drive, an 80GB EIDE drive and a Barracuda 7200.7 160GB EIDE drive. I'm 
 not sure who would want them, but they're all functional.
 
 I also have a 250GB PATA Maxtor drive which I remember as fading away, though 
 I just overwrote it with 0's to erase it without any problem.
 
 You might be able to tell that I found a shelf in a desk which had an old 
 horde from the desktop days.
 
 Bill
 
 [1] measured in dog years
 
 
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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Wiser, Ed
Remember the Drive on MacTown's repair counter it was that small. An it was 
huge.

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Subject: Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

Believe it or not, I'd like to get that 10GB drive. I have an old voice-mail 
system that runs on DOS 6.6 and can't handle any drive larger than that - and 
the smaller ones are getting hard to find.

 Hey all,

 Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
 internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
 taking if you can make any use of it.

 If anyone wants any real antiques [1], I also have a 10.2GB IDE drive, a 60GB 
 IDE drive, an 80GB EIDE drive and a Barracuda 7200.7 160GB EIDE drive. I'm 
 not sure who would want them, but they're all functional.

 I also have a 250GB PATA Maxtor drive which I remember as fading away, though 
 I just overwrote it with 0's to erase it without any problem.

 You might be able to tell that I found a shelf in a desk which had an old 
 horde from the desktop days.

 Bill

 [1] measured in dog years


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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Rising
On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:48 , Steven Brown sbrown1...@att.net wrote:

 I could use it if no one else has asked?

Hi Steve,

You got beat to the draw (believe it or not), so the drive is already gone.

Cheers,

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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Jason Meadows
I can use the 320 if no one has got it




On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:19 PM, Bill Rising bris...@mac.com wrote:
 
On Oct 29, 2013, at 1:48 , Steven Brown sbrown1...@att.net wrote:

 I could use it if no one else has asked?

Hi Steve,

You got beat to the draw (believe it or not), so the drive is already gone.

Cheers,


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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Jonathan Fletcher
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Tanya tha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Now you all may laugh - I have an old G3 Desktop that I keep Freehand MX on 
 because FH will do things that Illustrator won't. I design lots of logo's and 
 branding and can't live without FH. Shhh my secret.
 
 Would this Barracuda help the speed in my G3?
 
 I know programs and marketing - ask me about RAM, Hard-drives and I'm a deer 
 in the headlights.
 
 Thanks for the offer I appreciate your kindness!
 
 p.s. I had a Maxtor external drive and tons of info on it and BAM - dead!, 
 two whopping years of use.


Tanya, looking around for something that might help you out, I ran across this: 
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technologies/TSATA/

It would enable you to put bigger and faster (and more modern!) drives into 
your G3. While a good SATA drive would be a nice speed-up, you could even put 
an SSD in it for a dramatic speed boost. Even a common garden-variety SATA HDD 
would be way faster than whatever PATA drive you would put back in it.

I also bumped into this that has a lot of detailed technical advice on that box:
http://resale.headgap.com/osxnotesbw.html

If you Google around some more there is a lot of useful info on that machine. 

j.



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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Tanya
Hey Jonathan thanks!

I use this old mac of mine about every 4 months - almost have to learn Freehand 
all over again. It's a big place holder for FH MX. Ha ha

My MacBook Pro is everyday.


 
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:53 PM, Jonathan Fletcher 
li...@fletcherdata.com wrote:
 
On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Tanya tha...@yahoo.com wrote:

Now you all may laugh - I have an old G3 Desktop that I keep Freehand MX on 
because FH will do things that Illustrator won't. I design lots of logo's and 
branding and can't live without FH. Shhh my secret.

Would this Barracuda help the speed in my G3?

I know programs and marketing - ask me about RAM, Hard-drives and I'm a deer 
in the headlights.

Thanks for the offer I appreciate your kindness!

p.s. I had a Maxtor external drive and tons of info on it and BAM - dead!, two 
whopping years of use.



Tanya, looking around for something that might help you out, I ran across this: 
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technologies/TSATA/

It would enable you to put bigger and faster (and more modern!) drives into 
your G3. While a good SATA drive would be a nice speed-up, you could even put 
an SSD in it for a dramatic speed boost. Even a common garden-variety SATA HDD 
would be way faster than whatever PATA drive you would put back in it.

I also bumped into this that has a lot of detailed technical advice on that box:
http://resale.headgap.com/osxnotesbw.html

If you Google around some more there is a lot of useful info on that machine. 

j.


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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Jonathan Fletcher
On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Tanya tha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hey Jonathan thanks!
 
 I use this old mac of mine about every 4 months - almost have to learn 
 Freehand all over again. It's a big place holder for FH MX. Ha ha
 
 My MacBook Pro is everyday.



Oh, good. I think I would slip into a coma if I had to wait for such an old 
machine every day, even if I WAS in love with Freehand (which I used to be).[1] 

I understand. Remember to watch that that machine can't take a drive over 128 
GB without a software hack. And DON'T move it to OS X. Tiger will run on it to 
a certain extent, but it'll be a lot slower than OS 9.2.2. Especially if you're 
only using it for Freehand.

Something else you MIGHT try is a program called SheepShaver. It allows you to 
run up to Mac OS 9.0.4 on Intel boxes. I don't know if it'll run in all 
versions of OS X, but a newer, much faster machine should probably make it more 
enjoyable.

Good luck!

j.

[1] Trivia: I used PageMaker 1.0 back before Adobe bought it from Aldus. (I had 
to convert my 128K Mac to a 512KE to be able to use PageMaker 1.2 on it.) I 
used Freehand from a very early version (forget which), PhotoShop 2 and 
QuarkXPress from 2.11 WAAY back in the day. I could get around in 
Illustrator back then, but was not comfortable with it. InDesign was the 
perfect convergence tool, totally supplanting my infatuation with PageMaker and 
XPress. Still use it to this day.

Even MORE trivia: I converted all of the logos and Cardinal birds for UofL to 
eps files back in the late 80s from scans of artwork with Freehand. Loved it!


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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Rising
On Oct 29, 2013, at 22:33 , Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.com wrote:

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Tanya tha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hey Jonathan thanks!
 
 I use this old mac of mine about every 4 months - almost have to learn 
 Freehand all over again. It's a big place holder for FH MX. Ha ha
 
 My MacBook Pro is everyday.
 
 
 Oh, good. I think I would slip into a coma if I had to wait for such an old 
 machine every day, even if I WAS in love with Freehand (which I used to 
 be).[1] 
 
 I understand. Remember to watch that that machine can't take a drive over 128 
 GB without a software hack. And DON'T move it to OS X. Tiger will run on it 
 to a certain extent, but it'll be a lot slower than OS 9.2.2. Especially if 
 you're only using it for Freehand.
 
 Something else you MIGHT try is a program called SheepShaver. It allows you 
 to run up to Mac OS 9.0.4 on Intel boxes. I don't know if it'll run in all 
 versions of OS X, but a newer, much faster machine should probably make it 
 more enjoyable.

I use SheepShaver under Mountain Lion because I have hypercard stacks I cannot 
part with. For what little I use it for, it works. It would certainly be worth 
a try for running old MacOS software.

Bill

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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-29 Thread Tanya
Ha ha I too used Aldus Pagemaker. I learned it in college and learned on the 4 
macs. Our computer lab had 8 at UofL. Got them in 1996 crazy to design on 
that... wait aren't we moving to that on smart phones? Wow!

I went through the whole Pagemaker to Quark to Indesign. And Indesign is 
Pagemaker and I have always liked Pagemaker better. I had to design 32 page 
magazines and Pagemaker aka Indesign works so much better.

Yep Freehand has an auto trace tool that creates points - love it! when I need 
to draw something that is not mine but I need the points and the shape. LOVE IT!


Like I said Freehand has a tool that illustrator doesn't and I love to use it 
when being very creative for a very specific reason. So I can't use it often 
but I do every once in awhile.

I use Indesign/Photoshop/Illustrator at least every other day.


Thanks for all your help!

 
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On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:37 PM, Bill Rising bris...@mac.com wrote:
 
On Oct 29, 2013, at 22:33 , Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.com wrote:


 On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Tanya tha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hey Jonathan thanks!
 
 I use this old mac of mine about every 4 months - almost have to learn 
 Freehand all over again. It's a big place holder for FH MX. Ha ha
 
 My MacBook Pro is everyday.
 
 
 Oh, good. I think I would slip into a coma if I had to wait for such an old 
 machine every day, even if I WAS in love with Freehand (which I used to 
 be).[1] 
 
 I understand. Remember to watch that that machine can't take a drive over 128 
 GB without a software hack. And DON'T move it to OS X. Tiger will run on it 
 to a certain extent, but it'll be a lot slower than OS 9.2.2. Especially if 
 you're only using it for Freehand.
 
 Something else you MIGHT try is a program called SheepShaver. It allows you 
 to run up to Mac OS 9.0.4 on Intel boxes. I don't know if it'll run in all 
 versions of OS X, but a newer, much faster machine should probably make it 
 more enjoyable.

I use SheepShaver under Mountain Lion because I have hypercard stacks I cannot 
part with. For what little I use it for, it works. It would certainly be worth 
a try for running old MacOS software.

Bill


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[MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-28 Thread Bill Rising
Hey all,

Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
taking if you can make any use of it.

If anyone wants any real antiques [1], I also have a 10.2GB IDE drive, a 60GB 
IDE drive, an 80GB EIDE drive and a Barracuda 7200.7 160GB EIDE drive. I'm not 
sure who would want them, but they're all functional.

I also have a 250GB PATA Maxtor drive which I remember as fading away, though I 
just overwrote it with 0's to erase it without any problem.

You might be able to tell that I found a shelf in a desk which had an old horde 
from the desktop days.

Bill

[1] measured in dog years



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[MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-28 Thread Jonathan Fletcher
On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Bill Rising bris...@mac.com wrote:

 Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
 internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
 taking if you can make any use of it.
 ...


They're a lot of fun to take apart and get the wicked magnets out of them! Then 
you put a couple of them together and give them to your friends. Offer them a 
dollar if they can get them apart without smashing their fingers or breaking a 
fingernail.

Ah, good times! 

::-)

[BTW, just kidding, but they ARE fun to play with.]

j.

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Re: [MacGroup] anyone need an older disk?

2013-10-28 Thread Steven Brown
I could use it if no one else has asked?
 
Steve

Steven Brown



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To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:56 PM
Subject: [MacGroup]  anyone need an older disk?
  


On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:43 PM, Bill Rising bris...@mac.com wrote:

Does anyone have any need for a still-functioning Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 
internal SATA drive with a once-awesome 320GB capacity? It's yours for the 
taking if you can make any use of it.
...



They're a lot of fun to take apart and get the wicked magnets out of them! 
Then you put a couple of them together and give them to your friends. Offer 
them a dollar if they can get them apart without smashing their fingers or 
breaking a fingernail.


Ah, good times! 


::-)


[BTW, just kidding, but they ARE fun to play with.]


j.

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