Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-31 Thread Ken Williams
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:48 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: several reasons... - putting a computer to sleep still consumes power. Not very much. I'm one of those people who only sleeps my iBook, I never turn it off. The machine can go several days asleep without losing more than a

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-25 Thread Geoff Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A computer-clueless co-worker of mine had a similar problem under OS 10.1.??. She reinstalled the OS on top of the current fubarred installation and things were magically fixed. YMMV. It's just another anecdote, but our iMac booted recently to a root shell,

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Jonathan Baumgartner
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:12 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Yeah, but this whole episode was presaged by a spinning-beachball-of-death attack. [...] This happens with some regularity to me, and the only answer seems to be to just powerdown. Am I the only one who sees this? It must

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Pete Prodoehl
I saw the spinning beach ball of death a lot with 10.0.4, and then less with 10.1.x and now with 10.2 I still see it, but not quite as often it seems. This is on a G4 with 768 MB of RAM. Nowadays it seems to just affect one app rather than the whole system... which isn't quite as bad, a force

(OT)Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Daniel Stillwaggon
On Thursday, Oct 24, 2002, at 11:03 US/Pacific, Lou Moran wrote: Not the case with my stuff. I have a second drive that I have installed all my apps to (except the ones that insist on being in /Applications) so that saved a lot of time. I also kept my mail and my /Documents folder

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Phillip Burk
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 12:29 PM, Trey Harris wrote: In case anyone wonders (or cares), I ran DiskWarrior last night, and after twelve hours (!) of repair, my machine came back behaving much more nicely. At the very least, I could once again use the Finder. I also ran the Disk

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Lou Moran
On Thursday, Oct 24, 2002, at 13:50 America/New_York, Ian Ragsdale wrote: The only truly annoying part of this is the number of shareware apps I have which do *not* send their registrations via email. Once I clear the disk, I'm going to lose the registration keys, unless I find the patience

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Ian Ragsdale writes: You should be able to re-install without having to reinstall everything. Since only Apple stuff goes in /System, the archive install option on the 10.2 disk should move the /System folder and reinstall all the system files without

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Ian Ragsdale
You should be able to re-install without having to reinstall everything. Since only Apple stuff goes in /System, the archive install option on the 10.2 disk should move the /System folder and reinstall all the system files without disturbing everything else. Ian On 10/24/02 12:29 PM, Trey Harris

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Trey Harris
In case anyone wonders (or cares), I ran DiskWarrior last night, and after twelve hours (!) of repair, my machine came back behaving much more nicely. At the very least, I could once again use the Finder. I also ran the Disk Permissions Repair. Unfortunately, the fonts are still all missing

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-24 Thread Ian Ragsdale
On 10/24/02 12:41 PM, Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Ian Ragsdale writes: You should be able to re-install without having to reinstall everything. Since only Apple stuff goes in /System, the archive install option on the 10.2 disk should move the

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Geoffrey F. Green
On 10/23/02 10:54 AM, Puneet Kishor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't know how you can solve this one, but for the future... get a $150 refurbished, external 40Gb firewire hd and Dan Kogai's most excellent, free psync (written in Perl!!! of course) configured to run on shutdown. If your

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Jonathan Baumgartner
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:38 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: y'know geoff, methinks you are right. There was a shutdown folder in OS 9...dunno if it is in OS X. I actually just run the script manually, but I am sure in Unix there are shutdown scripts... I haven't explored in OS X, but

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Puneet Kishor
Geoffrey F. Green wrote: On 10/23/02 11:40 AM, David Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 08:38 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: y'know geoff, methinks you are right. There was a shutdown folder in OS 9...dunno if it is in OS X. I actually just run the script

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Puneet Kishor
Man, how these things take a life of their own. The original message was about help with a crashed OS X box. My suggestion was to backup using psync... now we have this thread... ok... Jonathan Baumgartner wrote: On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 11:57 AM, Puneet Kishor wrote: I use an

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Pete Prodoehl
Ok, steering back on track... I always create another user account on my OS X machines. If you see something extremely odd, reboot and log in as another user and verify that the problem is with the system, and not just an individual user's account. If you're a terminal lover you can always

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Phillip Burk
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Trey Harris wrote: In a message dated Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Bruce A. Burdick, Jr. writes: You could have a bad hard drive. That might explain the behavior you are seeing. Wiping the drive and reinstalling OS X may work. But if it's the drive, you're

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 2:44 PM -0400 10/23/02, John Siracusa wrote: On 10/23/02 2:17 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: Something in freeciv leaks memory badly, both on the X side *and* on the Window Server side. (I've seen the WindowServer process have 250M+ mapped in, which on a 384M system is a lot) That's (probably)

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 02:17 PM, Dan Sugalski wrote: At 2:12 PM -0400 10/23/02, Trey Harris wrote: Yeah, but this whole episode was presaged by a spinning-beachball-of-death attack. One of those where a seemingly innocuous click on a menu starts the spinning ball in one app, and

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread William H. Magill
On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 01:16 PM, Trey Harris wrote: Well, I can certainly do that. But exactly what should I be looking for? As a Unix machine, the box seems to be responding fine--it's still doing firewalling and NAT just fine, for instance. It's just the Mac-y stuff that's

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Wed, 23 Oct 2002, William H. Magill writes: There is a version file that gets clobbered which prevents the GUI from starting up. /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist Not my problem--the file I have and the file you posted match, but thanks for the

Re: OS X meltdown

2002-10-23 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Charles Albrecht writes: At 11:48 AM -0500 10/23/2002, Puneet Kishor wrote: if you do turn off the computer, then either remember to run psync before turning it off, or figure out how to have it run automatically on shutdown. Although SystemStarter,