Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Erik Price
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 10:43 PM, Kee Hinckley wrote: Well, there's always this disgusting solution. : eval exec '`which perl` -S $0 $@' if ($running_under_some_shell); print STDERR Hello World\n; foreach $arg (@ARGV) { print STDERR Arg: $arg\n; }

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread drieux
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 07:13 , Morbus Iff wrote: #! /usr/bin/perl #! /usr/local/perl In the default Perl 5.6.0, it's located at /usr/bin/perl. With a default install of Perl 5.8.0, it's installed into /usr/local/bin/perl, but also /usr/bin/perl, allowing all scripts to function

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Kee Hinckley
I could be totally off base, but doesn't the env utility provide functionality to solve this issue? I don't use env so I could be wrong, but I -thought- that I had read somewhere that #!/usr/bin/env perl Would evaluate to the perl environment variable (which it is assumed would point to

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Kay Röpke
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 03:12 PM, drieux wrote: so all I really want to know is what is the canonical orthodox perl way as executed in the canonical orthodox apple way?[4] The orthodox perl way is laid down in the hints file for your favorite (most despised

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Kay Röpke
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 03:53 PM, drieux wrote: On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 06:21 , Kee Hinckley wrote: [..] Of course this kind of solution is inherently dangerous given that /usr/bin/perl and /usr/local/bin/perl may be different versions for good reasons, and letting

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew M. Langmead
On Thu, Aug 15, 2002 at 09:18:24AM -0400, Erik Price wrote: I could be totally off base, but doesn't the env utility provide functionality to solve this issue? I don't use env so I could be wrong, but I -thought- that I had read somewhere that #!/usr/bin/env perl The existance of, and

Fwd: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread drieux
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 06:55 , Kay Röpke wrote: On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 03:12 PM, drieux wrote: so all I really want to know is what is the canonical orthodox perl way as executed in the canonical orthodox apple way?[4] The orthodox perl way is laid

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread drieux
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 07:03 , Kay Röpke wrote: [..] As 'developers' are a degenerated bunch of animals, they normally keep their pack close to them. What I mean is: their home directory. a useful strategy, and a reasonable assertion about developers in general... 8-) [..] You

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Alex Rice
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 07:53 AM, drieux wrote: This approach also saves on the problem of using scripts that were originally rigged with #!/usr/bin/perl #!/usr/local/bin/perl Python programmers use this a lot, but it works equally well with Perl: #!/usr/bin/env

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Thursday, August 15, 2002, at 11:53 PM, drieux wrote: I can understand why 'developers' will want to have 'multiple instances of perl' floating around on their machine - and one way would be to do this with the split between the prefix /usr/local and /usr. { I would argue against such a

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Friday, August 16, 2002, at 12:00 PM, Rich Michaela wrote: Actually this is not very reasonable at all, unless you have a different definition of production than I. The only sane way to run a production environment is a single version. Why? I've described a scenario where it's not

Re: the enving perl issues - was Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-15 Thread Ken Williams
On Friday, August 16, 2002, at 10:35 AM, drieux wrote: I guess a part of the problem I have here is that it is not clear how the separation say #!/usr/bin/perl is going to become 5.8 #!/usr/local/bin/perl is the older 5.6.1 that we get what you are suggesting Right, I

Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread ellem
I just assumed some of you on this list have been given betas, golds or full versions of OS X.2 so anyone know? -- Mein bratwurst has a first name, it's F-R-I-T-Z. Mein bratwurst has a second name, it's S-C-H-N-A-C-K-E-N-P-F-E-F-F-E-R-H-A-U-S-E-N (OS X)

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread ellem
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 03:54 PM, Morbus Iff wrote: I just assumed some of you on this list have been given betas, golds or full versions of OS X.2 5.6.0, as before. There are whispers of a installing 5.8.0 article being released shortly after Jaguar is available. I wonder if an

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Sherm Pendley
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 04:20 PM, ellem wrote: I wonder if an upgrade will bring my Perl to 5.6.0 again (which wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened to my Perl install) That depends on where you installed your copy. If you overwrote the factory copy, then as upgrade will

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread drieux
On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 04:53 , Sherm Pendley wrote: On Wednesday, August 14, 2002, at 04:20 PM, ellem wrote: I wonder if an upgrade will bring my Perl to 5.6.0 again (which wouldn't be the worst thing that ever happened to my Perl install) That depends on where you installed

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 8:44 PM -0400 8/14/02, ellem wrote: #! /usr/bin/perl I mean if it's on a bumper sticker it has to be correct; no? Traditional Perl pre-dates bumpers. Now if you have a Perl baby-on-board sign, that's another matter. -- Kee Hinckley - Somewhere.Com, LLC http://consulting.somewhere.com/

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Robert D. Sharp
Kee Hinckley wrote: At 8:44 PM -0400 8/14/02, ellem wrote: #! /usr/bin/perl I mean if it's on a bumper sticker it has to be correct; no? Traditional Perl pre-dates bumpers. Now if you have a Perl baby-on-board sign, that's another matter. I have really enjoyed the depth of discussion

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Morbus Iff
#! /usr/bin/perl #! /usr/local/perl In the default Perl 5.6.0, it's located at /usr/bin/perl. With a default install of Perl 5.8.0, it's installed into /usr/local/bin/perl, but also /usr/bin/perl, allowing all scripts to function normally. In the overwrite system breed of install, the new Perl

Re: Anyone know what Perl Jaguar is coming with?

2002-08-14 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 7:03 PM -0700 8/14/02, Robert D. Sharp wrote: caused a dangerous thing. Thought, I have had the pleasure of writing scripts on a Linux box (developmental) for Unix box (production) and had to provide for changes in that very line from one #! /usr/bin/perl to #! /usr/local/perl or back