cpan2port

2009-03-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
I wanted to use cpan2port today for the first time to make a perl module port. I ran into some problems. First, I had hoped to find cpan2port in the contrib section of the repository: http://trac.macports.org/browser/contrib but it's not there. I found it on the official site here:

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Anders F Björklund
Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: RPM may be appealing to many for various reasons and I won't argue that. Apple has created the package format for distributing binaries and it is familiar to most users and does not require any additional software be installed. If macports binaries were

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Oh gee. Package management. My favorite subject TEN YEARS AGO. ;-) /needless-sarcasm On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: Are uninstall options within a pkg difficult? Yes. The .pkg format is basically just cpio on a small dose of steroids. Strictly one-way,

Re: Migrate app data on upgrade

2009-03-24 Thread C. Florian Ebeling
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On Mar 23, 2009, at 16:04, C. Florian Ebeling wrote: Is there a working example of migrating app data to a new format in a some port? There are obviously a number of issues with doing something like this: - finding

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Anders F Björklund
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I guess I just don't see the appeal of rpm. What do you see as the advantages of rpm? Would rpm be internal to the macports port command and leverage rpm dependency checking or something? I think you're asking the wrong question. The right question is not is

Re: Universal and binary builds (was: Re: Is isysroot useful for non-universal?)

2009-03-24 Thread Anders F Björklund
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Since rosetta doesn't handle ppc64, we can't narrow this down to a single x86_64 box. We can't narrow it down to a single Intel Mac per OS anyway because one of the problems is that some software doesn't cross- compile correctly. The point is to eliminate the need for

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Anders F Björklund wrote: Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I guess I just don't see the appeal of rpm. What do you see as the advantages of rpm? Would rpm be internal to the macports port command and leverage rpm dependency checking or something? I think you're

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Anders F Björklund
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I think you're asking the wrong question. The right question is not is package format foo better than package format bar? but rather what exactly are we trying to do? Was it about package formats (.rpm and .deb), or about package managers (rpm and dpkg) ? Yes.

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Joshua Root
Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: Joshua Root j...@... writes: Universal, however, should be limited to 32/64-bit universal as soon as possible. I see no reason to limit the functionality. Changing the default archs, sure. Granted, but the extra functionality comes with a price, especially in

Re: [48432] trunk/dports/irc/irssi-devel/Portfile

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: It's deprecated if you're running trunk. No warning for 1.7 users. Right, and I am suggesting that we remove the deprecation warning for svn.tag from trunk again, and not re-add it until the next version of MacPorts has been released which includes svn.revision.

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Marcus Calhoun-Lopez
Joshua Root j...@... writes: Once again, I don't believe that the vast majority of users really want universal, they are just using it as a hack to get x86_64. There may be a few sharing builds between an i386 and a ppc machine, but they would be better served by binaries. If the vast

suggestion for package website

2009-03-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
I was perusing Arch's website today and noticed there's a flag package out-of-date link when you're viewing information about a package. Is this something we might find worthwhile for MacPorts since not everything has a livecheck? I presume it can put a community-initiated flag of might

Re: suggestion for package website

2009-03-24 Thread Emmanuel Hainry
Citando Jeremy Lavergne : I was perusing Arch's website today and noticed there's a flag package out-of-date link when you're viewing information about a package. Is this something we might find worthwhile for MacPorts since not everything has a livecheck? I presume it can put a

Re: suggestion for package website

2009-03-24 Thread Joshua Root
Jeremy Lavergne wrote: I was perusing Arch's website today and noticed there's a flag package out-of-date link when you're viewing information about a package. Is this something we might find worthwhile for MacPorts since not everything has a livecheck? I presume it can put a

Re: suggestion for package website

2009-03-24 Thread C. Florian Ebeling
Sure, there's all kinds of stuff like that that we could do with a working MPWA/db.macports.org. What's the status of this thing anyway? -- Florian Ebeling Twitter: febeling florian.ebel...@gmail.com ___ macports-dev mailing list

Re: suggestion for package website

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
C. Florian Ebeling wrote: Sure, there's all kinds of stuff like that that we could do with a working MPWA/db.macports.org. What's the status of this thing anyway? It is on our ideas list for Google Summer of Code this year again, as it already was last year, but the project failed on the

Re: [MacPorts] SummerOfCode modified

2009-03-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
Were both of those links suppose to be to macports-dev ? On Mar 24, 2009, at 7:16 PM, MacPorts wrote: Changed page SummerOfCode by rai...@macports.org from 91.11.216.162* Page URL: http://trac.macports.org/wiki/SummerOfCode Diff URL:

Re: [MacPorts] SummerOfCode modified

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Jeremy Lavergne wrote: Were both of those links suppose to be to macports-dev ? Of course not, thanks for noticing. Copy and paste error :-) Fixed now. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosforge.org

Re: [48432] trunk/dports/irc/irssi-devel/Portfile

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Rainer Müller wrote: I agree that the warning is a bit annoying, and I did not commit the livecheck.check - livecheck.type rename yet because it is even more talkative. The deprecation warning there appears for nearly all ports, each time it is parsed. For example on a dependency walk. I will

no comments on my port submission yet?

2009-03-24 Thread Allen McBride
Hi folks, I submitted a port a little over a week ago (http://trac.macports.org/ticket/18870 ), but no one has committed it or commented on it yet. No big hurry, but in someone else's earlier ticket (http://trac.macports.org/ticket/18220 ), Rainer suggested that people nudge this list in

Re: Universal and binary builds (was: Re: Is isysroot useful for non-universal?)

2009-03-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 24, 2009, at 05:26, Anders F Björklund wrote: While cross-compiling and virtual build machines does have some entertaining value, you would probably be better off with one hardware node per OS/arch and a chroot ? I'd like that. Assuming that you're even going to build PowerPC

Re: Deprecating port list

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Rainer Müller wrote: On 14.03.2009 9:15 Uhr, Neil wrote: Why not send The following ports are currently installed: to stderr? Hm, stderr and stdout do not have to be synchron, I am not sure it is a good idea to mix them for this purpose. Recently I added a wrapper around isatty(3) which

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: Assuming that you're even going to build PowerPC binaries, it shouldn't be so hard finding cheap used hardware for it. The new machines available only use Intel anyway. If we want to support universal binaries -- and given the effort that's been put in so far on

Re: no comments on my port submission yet?

2009-03-24 Thread Rainer Müller
Allen McBride wrote: I submitted a port a little over a week ago (http://trac.macports.org/ticket/18870 ), but no one has committed it or commented on it yet. No big hurry, but in someone else's earlier ticket (http://trac.macports.org/ticket/18220 ), Rainer suggested that people nudge

Re: Universal and binary builds

2009-03-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 24, 2009, at 22:47, Rainer Müller wrote: Ryan Schmidt wrote: Assuming that you're even going to build PowerPC binaries, it shouldn't be so hard finding cheap used hardware for it. The new machines available only use Intel anyway. If we want to support universal binaries -- and given

Discouraging variants [was: Re: port install efficiency issue]

2009-03-24 Thread Shreevatsa R
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote: Mac OS X is not Debian. The Mac way is to provide not as many options as possible, but as few options as possible. Meet the needs of most of the users with the default setup, and provide a few options for everyone