Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Ken Cunningham
Once gcc13 is the default gcc used on older systems, it would be hoped that it would cover off most needs. Up to now, though, older systems have used gcc7, and in a few cases gcc5 or gcc48 are used for specific issues. So those gcc versions may still be needed ... time will tell. If the whole

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Ken Cunningham
Two of the libgccs are stubs, the rest are not. so it is pretty much as bad as it looks.

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2024, at 13:03, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > Odd/Even was an old practice, possibly not followed anymore. It was an old practice of GNOME abandoned in 2020. Graphviz, Cairo, Pango, Pixman, Glib2 are examples, from ports I maintain(ed). The MacPorts "gnome" livecheck recipe still

Py ports maintainers: FYI "Enforcing consistent metadata for [Python] packages"

2024-04-05 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
FYI for anyone involved with maintaining Python-related ports in MacPorts: Over in discuss.python.org, Paul Moore started a thread on "Enforcing consistent metadata for packages".  I am naive about Python packaging, so most of it goes over my head. But this comment caught my eye: Linux

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Chris Jones
> On 5 Apr 2024, at 7:03 PM, Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev > wrote: > > Hi, > > Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> I propose to keep even versions, because they are stable ones >> Do you have a source for this claim? It's the first I've heard of it. As far >> as I know, all gcc version numbers

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ryan Schmidt wrote: I propose to keep even versions, because they are stable ones Do you have a source for this claim? It's the first I've heard of it. As far as I know, all gcc version numbers are stable. I did a quick search and couldn't find one. It is something I pked up years

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Chris Jones
On 05/04/2024 1:45 pm, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Apr 5, 2024, at 03:52, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I propose to keep even versions, because they are stable ones Do you have a source for this claim? It's the first I've heard of it. As far as I know, all gcc version numbers are stable. They

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2024, at 03:52, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > I propose to keep even versions, because they are stable ones Do you have a source for this claim? It's the first I've heard of it. As far as I know, all gcc version numbers are stable.

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 05/04/2024 12:30 pm, Ken Cunningham wrote: It’s important you understand how the libgcc ports work now, to see how this libgcc chain is set up and the problems it might cause on slower older systems that have no buildbot. Go to an Intel system like 10.7, uninstall all ports. Disable

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Ken Cunningham
It’s important you understand how the libgcc ports work now, to see how this libgcc chain is set up and the problems it might cause on slower older systems that have no buildbot. Go to an Intel system like 10.7, uninstall all ports. Disable the buildbot by clearing archive_sites in

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ken Cunningham wrote: To have libgcc7, the way it is now, you need to build libgcc13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, and then 7. That is -- a lot of gcc building for a questionable benefit. on my PowerMac dual-G4 about a week of compilation, given the time to build gcc8... But I understand we

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Ken Cunningham wrote: My only question is whether to skip over gcc8-12, or include them. If we skip over gcc8-12, we can probably have a new release that uses gcc13 as the primary gcc on all systems in macports done by Monday. Less maybe. Last time I jumped the version, it took me an

Re: 10.5 and gcc8 x86-64 ok but ppc bails with dlerror

2024-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-dev
Hi, Sorry - I missed these replies, ended up in the wrong mail folder. Was about to re-write! We had discussions in many points, tickets, ecc... lots of different opinions. Sergio Had wrote: You should not need gcc8. I had gcc11 working on 10.5 ppc (and ppc64 too). I have seen people