Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-22 Thread Fred Wright
On Thu, 21 May 2020, Ken Cunningham wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020, Ken Cunningham wrote: > /i was imagining just one key port — gtk, or some other always installed > />/required supporting lib — would do the test. / I don't think gtk is remotely close to being an always-required lib for X11

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Cunningham
On Wed, 20 May 2020, Ken Cunningham wrote: >/i was imagining just one key port — gtk, or some other always installed />/required supporting lib — would do the test. / I don't think gtk is remotely close to being an always-required lib for X11 apps. Fred Wright Fill in your fav then, with

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-21 Thread Fred Wright
On Wed, 20 May 2020, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 20, 2020, at 21:09, Fred Wright wrote: Just because XQuartz is "out of date" doesn't mean that it might not be adequate in many cases, and I've found that switching from one X11 to another involves wrestling with some poorly documented

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Ken Cunningham
> What I'm trying to avoid is having to add boilerplate code to hundreds of > ports. So I guess that means yet another portgroup to do this. But even that > -- editing hundreds of possibly optionally X11-using portfiles to insert the > inclusion of that portgroup only when X11 is actually going

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 20, 2020, at 21:09, Fred Wright wrote: > On Wed, 20 May 2020, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> On May 20, 2020, at 08:30, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> >>> Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, >>> so that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Fred Wright
On Wed, 20 May 2020, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On May 20, 2020, at 08:30, Ken Cunningham wrote: Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server installs and it actually works for them “out-of-the-box”. For

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 20, 2020, at 08:30, Ken Cunningham wrote: > Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so > that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server installs and it > actually works for them “out-of-the-box”. > > For example, CherryTree is apparently a

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Christopher Jones
> On 20 May 2020, at 3:55 pm, Rainer Müller wrote: > > On 20/05/2020 15.30, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so >> that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server installs and it >> actually works for them

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Rainer Müller
On 20/05/2020 15.30, Ken Cunningham wrote: > Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so > that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server installs and it > actually works for them “out-of-the-box”. I doubt even with the dependency it will not work "out

Re: make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Christopher Jones
Hi, Personally, I would say yes, this makes sense given the current state of XQuartz.app cheers Chris > On 20 May 2020, at 2:30 pm, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so > that when people install an x11 application,

make xorg-server a dependency of x11 ports?

2020-05-20 Thread Ken Cunningham
Should xorg-server should be made a dependency of some key x11 component, so that when people install an x11 application, xorg-server installs and it actually works for them “out-of-the-box”. For example, CherryTree is apparently a very popular gtk application, and there was some pressure for