Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, > I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open > source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be > shouldered by just one person. I don't see how those two comments are connected. Just because an application is developed in Xcode, using cocoa etc., d

Re: Advanced configuration of SMLNJ

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 20:43, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > Are you referring to reinplace? It's mostly used for in-place substitutions, > like sed. I'm not even sure it can do anything else; I've never tried. reinplace runs sed under the hood. Flags probably differ. http://trac.macports.org/browse

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Sean Farley
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Sean Farley wrote: > >> I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open >> source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be >> shouldered by just one person. > > This is

Re: Advanced configuration of SMLNJ

2013-01-31 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jan 31, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Watson Ladd wrote: > Does anyone have strong opinions on how SMLNJ 110.75 should be configured? > They support some incompatible options, and I want to turn on more then the > most basic ones but am not sure what set should be. You might want to enable a fair numbe

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Sean Farley wrote: > I just want to point out that this is where having a gui that is open > source would really help: the responsibility wouldn't have to be > shouldered by just one person. This is technically true, but GUI development is one broth that is *very* e

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 01/02/2013, at 11:04 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > Hmmm, seems port has learned some new tricks over the years that I wasn't > aware of . :-) Kudos. Another thing a GUI can do is encapsulate tricks like that, which are not easy to find in "man port" unless you know they are already there … :-)

Advanced configuration of SMLNJ

2013-01-31 Thread Watson Ladd
Hello, Does anyone have strong opinions on how SMLNJ 110.75 should be configured? They support some incompatible options, and I want to turn on more then the most basic ones but am not sure what set should be. Note this will be for a portfile that hopefully will work on your machine as well, and wi

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 19:34, Ian Wadham wrote: >> Interface Builder. It's part of Xcode. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Builder > > Thanks, Ryan. That looks good. It's not exactly lying around on the surface > in Xcode, though. FWICG, you have to use File->New… and ask for a XIB

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Sean Farley
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: > On 01/02/2013, at 11:05 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote: >>> I did "sudo port install -k -s pallet" >> >> Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them >> immediately after the word

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 01/02/2013, at 11:05 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote: >> I did "sudo port install -k -s pallet" > > Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them > immediately after the word "port". > > sudo port -k -s install Pallet Oops. That's

Re: Testing php5x-oracle In 64bit Mode?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 19:21, "Wilks, Daniel" wrote: > Looks like Oracle finally released a new version of the OSX Instant Client - > 11.2.0.3.0. This one might work in 64-bit mode. Thanks for letting me know! Would you please file a ticket in the issue tracker? I can look at it tomorrow. __

Testing php5x-oracle In 64bit Mode?

2013-01-31 Thread Wilks, Daniel
Hi, Looks like Oracle finally released a new version of the OSX Instant Client - 11.2.0.3.0. This one might work in 64-bit mode. I might know just enough to be dangerous, how would one go about locally modifying php's Portfile to remove the supported_archs i386 in the oracle subport so I ca

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 16:53, Ian Wadham wrote: > I did "sudo port install -k -s pallet" Single-letter flags like -k and -s have no effect unless you put them immediately after the word "port". sudo port -k -s install Pallet > I am unfamiliar with both Objective C and the Macports structure … :

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Kevin Walzer
Hmmm, seems port has learned some new tricks over the years that I wasn't aware of . :-) Kudos. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 17:26, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote: >> CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an >> easy, automateable task hard/impossible. > > Here are a few things that a GUI can do that the CLI cannot: > > 1. Filter ports b

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote: CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an easy, automateable task hard/impossible. Also: a GUI can be automated as well. I've added an AppleScript API to PortAuthority, for instance. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: > > I could write something in C++ and Qt, but that might cause a chicken > and egg problem down the line, i.e. to use the GUI you would first have > to install qt4-mac. Such a program could be packaged as a standalone Mac application (without an

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 1/31/13 6:11 PM, James Linder wrote: CLI does the job nicely and well, why on earth would you seek to make an easy, automateable task hard/impossible. Here are a few things that a GUI can do that the CLI cannot: 1. Filter ports by category. port offers no way to see all the "aqua" ports,

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread James Linder
On 01/02/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: >> It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it >> has definitely fallen behind. >> >>> BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI? > > If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread James Linder
On 01/02/2013, at 4:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: >> >> One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely >> asking for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding >> off people. > > Well, I don't think I'm a troll...for a

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Ian Wadham wrote: > I did "sudo port install -k -s pallet" and then started digging around in > the Macports directory structure for Pallet and some source code. > Eventually I found: > > /opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.o

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 31/01/2013, at 11:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote: >> On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> >>> It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it >>> has definitely fallen behind. >>> BTW, does Macports have

Re: How do I link with Aquaterm library for an external build?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:32, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Actually, you usually need both -framework AquaTerm and > -F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks when compiling, as in: > gcc hello.c -framework AquaTerm -F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks > >

Re: How do I link with Aquaterm library for an external build?

2013-01-31 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Actually, you usually need both -framework AquaTerm and > -F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks when compiling, as in: > gcc hello.c -framework AquaTerm -F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks > -F is to -I as -framework is to -l. That is, -F gets

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 1/31/13 9:27 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Or simply taking Qt, Tcl/Tk or any other cross-platform tool for GUIs that works on Mac OS X (and doesn't require any special knowledge of Cocoa if an otherwise motivated developer doesn't feel comfortable writing in Cocoa). PortAuthority is written in

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote: > >> If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have a crack >> at it myself. I have had quite a bit of experience with designing >> and programming GUIs, databases, SQL, Shell scripts and an

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Back when it still worked (it wasn't updated for Lion or MacPorts 2.x), Porticus was my favorite - it let one see port options (or choose them for a newly installed port), let one do forced installs if needed, etc. Very little I'd routinely do that I couldn't do through it. Sadly, I've written

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 01/31/2013 12:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote: > >> On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> >>> It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it >>> has definitely fallen behind. >>> BTW, does Macports have

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 30, 2013, at 22:10, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 1/30/13 10:57 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> One time funding (pay for a task) is (arguably) different than routinely >> asking for money. We have had trolls in the past like that, simply feeding >> off people. > > Well, I don't think I'm a tro

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 06:07, Ian Wadham wrote: > On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: > >> It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it >> has definitely fallen behind. >> >>> BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI? > > If I knew what tools to use on A

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 31/01/2013, at 2:37 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: > It is routinely a GSoC project, and since we were not chosen last year it has > definitely fallen behind. > >> BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI? If I knew what tools to use on Apple Mac, I might have a crack at it myself. I have had q

Re: How do I link with Aquaterm library for an external build?

2013-01-31 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Jan 31, 2013, at 02:21, Jerry wrote: >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> >>> If you want those three values to be in CFLAGS, you'll have to enclose them >>> in quotes: >>> >>> CFLAGS="-F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks -fra

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread Ian Wadham
On 31/01/2013, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 1/30/13 10:50 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> Don't remember that one. Certainly not one that would ask for cash. > > It's been around since 2005. > > Interesting that you criticize the monetary aspect of it, however...doesn't > GSOC provide, um,

Re: How do I link with Aquaterm library for an external build?

2013-01-31 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 31, 2013, at 02:21, Jerry wrote: > On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > >> If you want those three values to be in CFLAGS, you'll have to enclose them >> in quotes: >> >> CFLAGS="-F/opt/local/Library/Frameworks -framework AquaTerm" > > Thanks, Ryan. > > I entered this li

Re: Side effects?

2013-01-31 Thread James Griffin
* Ian Wadham [2013-01-31 14:34:06 +1100]: > BTW, does Macports have a nice safe GUI? > > Cheers, Ian W. My feeling is that Macports doesn't need a GUI. Using the command-line is part of the "fun". When I got my first Mac I spent literally all of my computing time on it using the Terminal. I bo

Re: How do I link with Aquaterm library for an external build?

2013-01-31 Thread Jerry
On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Jan 30, 2013, at 15:50, Jerry wrote: > >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:04 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >>> Please try to add "-F/opt/local/Frameworks" to CFLAGS >>> (CXXFLAGS/ObjCFLAGS/FFLAGS/FCFLAGS) and LDFLAGS in addition to >>> "-framework Aqua