Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:06 AM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote: It also appears that the function of the ServerName directive has changed. The current Apache manual http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#servername describes its syntax as requiring a FQDN -- which neither

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:34 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday January 04 2015 09:05:42 Brandon Allbery wrote: From the standpoint of DNS, localhost is fully qualified: it is not the short form of a name that is meaningful only in the context of a particular domain. AFAIK

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread William H. Magill
On Jan 4, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:34 AM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday January 04 2015 09:05:42 Brandon Allbery wrote: From the standpoint of DNS, localhost is fully qualified: it is not the short form of a

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, William H. Magill mag...@mac.com wrote: BIND9 at least comes with a local zone definition that includes localhost. as a name, with the usual mapping. That said, people *usually* get it from /etc/hosts... *but* OS X is a little weird in how/when it uses the

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Michael Crawford
DNS is a protocol, not an API. To the extent that hosts is used, it's because developer of the software that implements the protocol chooses to use it. It's a PITA if it's not used - I quite commonly set up small networks in my own office, with static IPs hardwired into my hosts files. Michael

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Michael Crawford mdcrawf...@gmail.com wrote: DNS is a protocol, not an API. To the extent that hosts is used, it's because developer of the software that implements the protocol chooses to use it. That would be why I mentioned BSD API (used by most command

Where are the manpages for llvm?

2015-01-04 Thread Peng Yu
I have llvm installed through MacPorts. But I don't see the manpages. Are they available? Thanks. ~$ ll $(which lli) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 25 2015-01-04 10:38:14 /opt/local/bin/lli - /opt/local/bin/lli-mp-3.4 ~$ ll $(which llc) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 25 2015-01-04 10:38:14 /opt/local/bin/llc -

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday January 04 2015 10:46:53 Brandon Allbery wrote: It'll be fine once commodity Internet and commodity routers/access points (aside from Apple's!) includes IPv6 connectivity. Currently, you'll find that getting IPv6 upstream is nearly impossible in many places / with many providers;

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 12:23 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: And when I out-comment the localhost definition from /etc/hosts, I can no longer connect to that hostname. That's because, while a nameserver often comes with a zone definition providing a localhost definition, publishing

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday January 04 2015 12:28:50 Brandon Allbery wrote: not serve it to you, whereas a local nameserver usually would. (Roughly the same rule as for the RFC1918 private address ranges.) Not the server running on my modem/router (192.168.1.1) in any case. But it could be that router just

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: Not the server running on my modem/router (192.168.1.1) in any case. But it could be that router just forwards requests to the ISP's DNS servers if they don't match the entries in the MAC/hostname table. It does; it's not a

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
To add to the chatter: On Jan 3, 2015, at 13:41 , William H. Magill wrote: Did Apple change something in Yosemite/Safari so that localhost is no longer an accessible DNS address for Safari? I have no trouble ssh-ing to localhost on my system, but Safari always responds Can't connect to

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday January 04 2015 13:10:30 Justin C. Walker wrote: I have no trouble ssh-ing to localhost on my system, but Safari always responds Can't connect to the Server. FWIW, i get this on my 10.6.8 system, which is more or less stock. Also, 'localhost' is defined in my /etc/hosts, as

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 4:23 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: TWO IPv6 addresses? Could you paste the relevant lines here? Looks like there's an link-local address space reference in there as well as ::1, presumably because the loopback adapter does not implement IPv6 link-local

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 4, 2015, at 13:23 , René J.V. Bertin wrote: On Sunday January 04 2015 13:10:30 Justin C. Walker wrote: I have no trouble ssh-ing to localhost on my system, but Safari always responds Can't connect to the Server. FWIW, i get this on my 10.6.8 system, which is more or less stock.

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: To answer another question from earlier in the thread, I believe the database used by Mac OS X during the early years was a hold-over from NeXT days (netinfo?). I think it was essentially gone by the time 10.6 was

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: To answer another question from earlier in the thread, I believe the database used by Mac OS X during the early years was a hold-over from NeXT

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 4, 2015, at 16:27 , Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: To answer another question from earlier in the thread, I believe the database used by Mac OS X during the early years was a hold-over from NeXT days (netinfo?). I think

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 4, 2015, at 16:31 , Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: To answer another question from earlier in the thread, I believe the database used by Mac OS

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: Do you mean that localhost is not mentioned in /etc/hosts? I can't verify that one way or another since my 10.10 system is an upgrade from several versions back. No, I mean it is not listed in DirectoryServices under the

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday January 04 2015 16:51:42 Justin C. Walker wrote: (It is *not*, however, in /Hosts.) Do you mean that localhost is not mentioned in /etc/hosts? I can't verify that one way or another since my 10.10 system is an upgrade from several versions back. My 10.9.5 is an upgrade from

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:14 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: # head /etc/hosts ## # Host Database # # localhost is used to configure the loopback interface # when the system is booting. Do not change this entry. ## 127.0.0.1 localhost Portia 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost

Re: A question about Localhost with Safari

2015-01-04 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday January 04 2015 20:18:26 Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:14 PM, René J.V. rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: # head /etc/hosts ## # Host Database # # localhost is used to configure the loopback interface # when the system is booting. Do not change this entry.

Re: Where are the manpages for llvm?

2015-01-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 4, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Peng Yu wrote: I have llvm installed through MacPorts. But I don't see the manpages. Are they available? Thanks. ~$ ll $(which lli) lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 25 2015-01-04 10:38:14 /opt/local/bin/lli - /opt/local/bin/lli-mp-3.4 ~$ ll $(which llc) lrwxr-xr-x 1