Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 2:47 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote: It should be safe to build ports that do not depend directly on a failed port, but it seems not impossible that the ABI-changing effect of the update of an indirect dependency permeates to a direct dependency. I would

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
End users probably don't read the man pages to even know these flags exist. We're left wondering how and why you're even using them. -p Despite any errors encountered, proceed to process multiple ports and com- mands. -f force mode (ignore state file) Do

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Thursday May 28 2015 19:54:27 Kurt Pfeifle wrote: I've seen the upgrade of 200+ packages stopping just because one of the first five package upgrade fails. So have I, but I rarely if ever use even -p when I do launch a bunch of updates. I rather tend to isolate the ones I know will be

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Kurt Pfeifle
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote: End users probably don't read the man pages to even know these flags exist. That's what I already hinted at in my last mail. We're left wondering how and why you're even using them. -p Despite

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On May 28, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Kurt Pfeifle kurt.pfei...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok then: which one of the two switches is the unsafe one? I guess the -f? Or has the combination of the two even more damage potential? They're both unsafe. -f does different things depending on the build phase, but

`port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Kurt Pfeifle
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote: On May 27, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Kurt Pfeifle kurt.pfei...@googlemail.com wrote: [] girara was updated an hour ago. Please run a selfupdate and try upgrading again. Thanks, it works now. P.S. Unrelated: Stop

Re: `port -pf upgrade outdated` is incredibly unsafe ??

2015-05-28 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
I'm confused about the purpose of the thread. The documentation indicates why what you're doing is a bad thing. You should just run random commands without knowing what they do. To quote IRC: things break so often that i decided that the best course of action was to ignore the breakage It