Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Michael David Crawford
The PowerPC/Tiger backport of FireFox that I installed on Mom's G4 is called "TenFourFox". I think there's also a "TenThreeFox". There are quite a few Classic programs that are actively maintained. >From time to time I get email from a user of Working Software's products, none of which ever ran

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Ulrich Wienands
There are three rather critical pieces of software still being kept alive for PPC: Tenfourfox: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ (Firefox) Tenfourbird: http://tenfourbird.osdn.jp/ (Thunderbird)

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Michael David Crawford
There have been plenty of times that the only Mac available to me for development has been my mother's Tiger G4 iMac. I was at least able to install a PowerPC backport of Firefox. What was most upsetting to me when I used it was that I often had to build my own tools from source, because the

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Ulrich Wienands
Thanks for pointing that out. However, I happen to like OS X; which is why I use Macs in the first place. The hardware at least used to be superior as well although that may have changed, but I am by now so thoroughly used to Mac OS that I am relatively unwilling to switch… Anyway; I’ll stop

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 12, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote: > There have been plenty of times that the only Mac available to me for > development has been my mother's Tiger G4 iMac. I was at least able > to install a PowerPC backport of Firefox. > > What was most upsetting to me when I used it

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Ludwig
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Ulrich Wienands wrote: > The point being that PPC Macs are still useful machines that should not be > condemned to the landfill… FWIW, OpenBSD and NetBSD maintain official current releases for PPC. FreeBSD maintains it as a “Tier 2" architecture, meaning it’s not fully

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 12, 2015, at 10:58 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> >> On Nov 12, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Michael David Crawford wrote: >> >>> There have been plenty of times that the only Mac available to me for >>> development has been my mother's

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-12 Thread Michael David Crawford
Not MacPorts specifically but that has been my experience with numerous software packages. Michael David Crawford, Baritone mdcrawf...@gmail.com One Must Not Trifle With Wizards For It Makes Us Soggy And Hard To Light. On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Ryan Schmidt

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-10 Thread Ulrich Wienands
Just to let it be known that there is at least one person in the universe very interested in PPC software… myself. I suspect I am not alone. Unfortunately I cannot volunteer my G5 dualie as I actually use that machine daily… I assume as buildbot it would have to live in some location you chose.

Re: Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-10 Thread Michael David Crawford
There is a simple service that anyone could set up, that I intended to do myself but presently am unable to: Use a script to randomly select anywhere from 10 to 100 packages, then do "sudo port install" for all of them, all at once. Quite likely that install will fail due to some problem with

Volunteer for a workshop on "setting up your own buildbot/buildslave"? (Was: Experiences with El Capitan)

2015-11-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi, On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:34 AM, Artur Szostak wrote: > >> Let me ask another question: Is there a seamless way to add building and >> mirroring services from 3rd parties for the pre-built binaries? > > No. We want verified binaries built in

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Nov 9, 2015, at 2:34 AM, Artur Szostak wrote: > Let me ask another question: Is there a seamless way to add building and > mirroring services from 3rd parties for the pre-built binaries? No. We want verified binaries built in a clean-room by known servers, not binaries built in unknown

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-09 Thread Arno Hautala
acports-users-boun...@lists.macosforge.org] on behalf of Daniel J. Luke > [dl...@geeklair.net] > Sent: 06 November 2015 16:08 > To: Rainer Müller > Cc: macports-users > Subject: Re: Experiences with El Capitan > > On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Rainer Müller <rai...@macports.o

RE: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-09 Thread Artur Szostak
...@lists.macosforge.org] on behalf of Daniel J. Luke [dl...@geeklair.net] Sent: 06 November 2015 16:08 To: Rainer Müller Cc: macports-users Subject: Re: Experiences with El Capitan On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Rainer Müller <rai...@macports.org> wrote: > This is mainly due to the absence of an actual admin

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-06 Thread Nathan Brazil
I guess I am not upgrading to El Capitain just yet then. Thanks for sharing your experiences! — > On Nov 5, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Arno Hautala wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> Why did >> it not merely retrieve pre-built

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Nov 5, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Rainer Müller wrote: > This is mainly due to the absence of an actual admin at Mac OS Forge, > our hosting provider at Apple. Do we know if there's a position posted? It would be great if someone from the Macports community held that position.

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-05 Thread William H. Magill
> I got tired of seeing that bloody spinning beach-ball… This spinning beach ball seems to be a FEATURE of El Capitan — having nothing to do with Mac Ports. Everything causes it to happen. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill # iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.93GHz - 8 GB 1067MHz] OS X 10.11.1 # Macmini6,1

Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-05 Thread Dave Horsfall
The actual update itself was more or less seamless; details can be found over on //horsfall.org/capitan . Now, did Macports really feel the need to re-compile the world, over three days? I got tired of seeing that bloody spinning beach-ball... Why did it not merely retrieve pre-built

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-05 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2015-11-05 21:00, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Now, did Macports really feel the need to re-compile the world, over three > days? I got tired of seeing that bloody spinning beach-ball... Why did > it not merely retrieve pre-built binaries, as usual? As of now, we do not have a buildbot instance

Re: Experiences with El Capitan

2015-11-05 Thread Arno Hautala
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Why did > it not merely retrieve pre-built binaries, as usual? Apple hasn't yet provisioned the build environment required for El Capitan binaries. There's a ticket somewhere tracking this issue, but I haven't seen any