Re: Cannot get gimp app running

2014-11-02 Thread Eric A. Borisch
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Gregory Seidman 
gsslist+macpo...@anthropohedron.net wrote:

 This is a known, upstream bug: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/45309

 --Greg

 On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 06:45:55PM -0500, Eric A. Borisch wrote:
  Are you able to open something that uses a plugin, like a png? My gimp
  starts up, but none of the plugins (required for most file types) are
  working.
 
   - Eric


I am aware. I was trying to determine if David's was somehow working
(including plugins.) Turns out it was not (same boat everyone else is in.)

 - Eric
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The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread Jeff Singleton

Hi,

So after much frustration, much stress, and of course, I broke my Mac in 
the process. Backed up my user folder from single-user mode (since my 
mac would not boot all the way). Then I wiped and reinstalled Mavericks, 
upgraded to Yosemite, and then restored my user folder.


Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and 
mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this, 
including putting every single folder except /Applications in the 
exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing 
LaunchDaemons and LaunchAgents and where breakage occurred.


So...

This literally resolved all of the performance issues I saw reported 
from many others besides myself about the performance of Yosemite via 
the standard upgrade path.


On to MacPorts...

- Broken link checks
- Binary database updates

Both go within seconds, except for the binary database initial creation, 
which took a couple of minutes. After which, everything is running like new.


I know it is and was a pain in the rear to have to do all of this, but 
if there is one thing Apple has done correct it is that restoring a 
backed up user folder to a fresh install, puts all configurations, 
accounts, and other customizations right back to where they were with no 
hassle.


I hope this gives some insight on a sure fire way of resolving Yosemite 
performance issues.


Good Luck,
Jeff
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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread René J . V . Bertin
On Sunday November 02 2014 12:06:35 Jeff Singleton wrote:

 Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and 
 mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this, 
 including putting every single folder except /Applications in the 
 exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing 

Did that include switching off indexing for the whole (boot) disk (mdutil -i 
off) followed by a reboot? That ought to have wiped your spotlight folder, 
presuming that the most likely performance culprit would be updating an 
existing (huge) database file ...

R.
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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread William H. Magill

 On Nov 2, 2014, at 1:57 PM, René J.V. Bertin rjvber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sunday November 02 2014 12:06:35 Jeff Singleton wrote:
 
 Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and 
 mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this, 
 including putting every single folder except /Applications in the 
 exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing 
 
 Did that include switching off indexing for the whole (boot) disk (mdutil -i 
 off) followed by a reboot? That ought to have wiped your spotlight folder, 
 presuming that the most likely performance culprit would be updating an 
 existing (huge) database file ...

This problem (runaway MDs/MDWorker jobs) was also true in Mavericks.

I don't know how Apple updates the Spotlight database, but it is pretty clear 
that following a major upgrade, that database needs to be purged of all the old 
records which are basically duplicated by the new. Using Apple's methodology, 
this update apparently takes days.

Virtually all of the fixes involved trashing that Spotlight database in some 
fashion. A disk-wipe and re-install, is clearly one, which also has the benefit 
of trashing all of the various Cache databases created by various apps, as 
User/Library/Caches is not backed-up.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
# iMac11,3 Core i7 [2.93GHz - 8 GB 1067MHz] OS X 10.10
# Macmini6,1 Intel Core i5 [2.5 Ghz - 4GB 1600MHz] OS X 10.10 OSX Server (now 
dead)

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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread Jeff Singleton

On 11/2/14 12:57 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

On Sunday November 02 2014 12:06:35 Jeff Singleton wrote:


Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and
mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this,
including putting every single folder except /Applications in the
exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing


Did that include switching off indexing for the whole (boot) disk (mdutil -i 
off) followed by a reboot? That ought to have wiped your spotlight folder, 
presuming that the most likely performance culprit would be updating an 
existing (huge) database file ...

R.
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Trust me.  I tried everything. Resetting the SMC, PRAM, permissions, 
manually deleting the .Spotlight folder from /. Anything I could find on 
any Apple related blog/forum, I tried it.


Even going so far as to exclude lots of folders from my home Library 
folder, the same for System Library folder, my external drive, Bootcamp 
partition...none of it mattered.


The only thing that had any affect was to stop the mdworker services and 
the syslogd service. That is the only time the CPU usage dropped and the 
fans started slowing. Of course, right after I rebooted, they started 
back up again.


Somewhere in the middle of all that I probably forgot to revert an edit 
on one of the plist files and thats when it stopped booting to the GUI. 
Single-user mode was the only way, which required manually mounting my 
external drives and copying my user folder to it.


Booted to my Mavericks USB installer, completely wiped the main drive, 
installed Mavericks, and upgraded to Yosemite. Then booted to 
single-user again, and restored my user home folder.


From that point, mdworker did its initial indexing, and then dropped 
down to normal usage. Now the fans only spin up when I am actually doing 
something like compiling something under MacPorts.


Jeff
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Re: The crazy thing I did to fix Yosemite performance

2014-11-02 Thread Michael Crawford
Your user folder from your original installation will include a lot of
settings, preferences and the like from applications that were part of
your older OS install.  Potentially that might not be what you want, I
don't really know.

Recent versions of OS X hide your ~/Library folder in the Finder, but
you can get into it with:

   $ cd ; open Library

There is a lot of stuff in there, put there by Apple or by third-party
App developers.  I don't think it's such a good idea that the Library
folder is completely hidden, as most users won't know it's there,
won't know to back it up and so on.  But of course Apple figures
everyone just uses Spotlight.  :-/

I don't use Spotlight, I have grey hair, my face is getting wrinkled
so I drop .tar.gzs onto USB sticks.

Mike
Michael David Crawford
mdcrawf...@gmail.com
http://www.warplife.com/mdc/

   Available for Software Development in the Portland, Oregon Metropolitan
Area.


On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jeff Singleton gvib...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/2/14 12:57 PM, René J.V. Bertin wrote:

 On Sunday November 02 2014 12:06:35 Jeff Singleton wrote:

 Back story: In an attempt to figure out why the services mds and
 mdworker were running away with my CPU. Nothing I did resolved this,
 including putting every single folder except /Applications in the
 exception list for Spotlight. This is where I started editing


 Did that include switching off indexing for the whole (boot) disk (mdutil
 -i off) followed by a reboot? That ought to have wiped your spotlight
 folder, presuming that the most likely performance culprit would be updating
 an existing (huge) database file ...

 R.
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 Trust me.  I tried everything. Resetting the SMC, PRAM, permissions,
 manually deleting the .Spotlight folder from /. Anything I could find on any
 Apple related blog/forum, I tried it.

 Even going so far as to exclude lots of folders from my home Library folder,
 the same for System Library folder, my external drive, Bootcamp
 partition...none of it mattered.

 The only thing that had any affect was to stop the mdworker services and the
 syslogd service. That is the only time the CPU usage dropped and the fans
 started slowing. Of course, right after I rebooted, they started back up
 again.

 Somewhere in the middle of all that I probably forgot to revert an edit on
 one of the plist files and thats when it stopped booting to the GUI.
 Single-user mode was the only way, which required manually mounting my
 external drives and copying my user folder to it.

 Booted to my Mavericks USB installer, completely wiped the main drive,
 installed Mavericks, and upgraded to Yosemite. Then booted to single-user
 again, and restored my user home folder.

 From that point, mdworker did its initial indexing, and then dropped down to
 normal usage. Now the fans only spin up when I am actually doing something
 like compiling something under MacPorts.

 Jeff

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