Re: file not recognizing MP3 files?

2011-03-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 28, 2011, at 18:22, Andrew Watts wrote:

 It appears that version 5.05 of file is not recognizing MP3 files.  On
 my mac, running 10.5.8, I get this:
 
 andrew@drbernice ~ $ file nanana.mp3
 nanana.mp3: data

Looks like this:

http://bugs.gw.com/view.php?id=114


Are you on PowerPC or Intel? Could be an endian issue.



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Re: file not recognizing MP3 files?

2011-03-01 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2011-03-01 03:47 , Arno Hautala wrote:
 and annoyingly:
 $ /opt/local/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
 /usr/bin/file:   Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures
 /opt/local/bin/file: Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures

Interesting, I get different results:

$ port -q installed file
  file @5.05_0 (active)
$ /opt/local/bin/file --version
file-5.05
magic file from /opt/local/share/misc/magic

$ /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
/usr/bin/file:   Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
/usr/bin/file (for architecture x86_64):Mach-O 64-bit executable
x86_64
/usr/bin/file (for architecture i386):  Mach-O executable i386
/opt/local/bin/file: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
$ /opt/local/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
/usr/bin/file:   Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures
/opt/local/bin/file: data


The sources for the Apple provided file command is here:
http://opensource.apple.com/source/file/file-39/

Would someone care to compare the sources and magic file?

Rainer
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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Krischik
Am 01.03.11 03:33, schrieb Arno Hautala:

 I say drop the version options, make perl5 install 5.12, and any newer
 version in the future, and then revbump all the p5- modules.

+1

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Re: file not recognizing MP3 files?

2011-03-01 Thread Andrew Watts
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Ryan Schmidt ryandes...@macports.org wrote:
 On Feb 28, 2011, at 18:22, Andrew Watts wrote:

 It appears that version 5.05 of file is not recognizing MP3 files.  On
 my mac, running 10.5.8, I get this:

 andrew@drbernice ~ $ file nanana.mp3
 nanana.mp3: data

 Looks like this:

 http://bugs.gw.com/view.php?id=114


 Are you on PowerPC or Intel? Could be an endian issue.


I'm on Intel.




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Re: file not recognizing MP3 files?

2011-03-01 Thread Andrew Watts
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Rainer Müller rai...@macports.org wrote:
 On 2011-03-01 03:47 , Arno Hautala wrote:
 and annoyingly:
 $ /opt/local/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
 /usr/bin/file:       Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures
 /opt/local/bin/file: Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures

 Interesting, I get different results:

 $ port -q installed file
  file @5.05_0 (active)
 $ /opt/local/bin/file --version
 file-5.05
 magic file from /opt/local/share/misc/magic

 $ /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
 /usr/bin/file:       Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
 /usr/bin/file (for architecture x86_64):        Mach-O 64-bit executable
 x86_64
 /usr/bin/file (for architecture i386):  Mach-O executable i386
 /opt/local/bin/file: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64
 $ /opt/local/bin/file /usr/bin/file /opt/local/bin/file
 /usr/bin/file:       Mach-O fat file with 2 architectures
 /opt/local/bin/file: data


I'm seeing exactly the same output.  If I drop back to 5.04, it works
again; I suspect that the bug report that Ryan linked to is probably
the same issue, although they don't mention the additional inability
to recognize skinny Mach-O files.


 The sources for the Apple provided file command is here:
 http://opensource.apple.com/source/file/file-39/

 Would someone care to compare the sources and magic file?

 Rainer
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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Dan Ports
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:34:22PM -0800, Dan Ports wrote:
 I see this as a high-priority issue that affects many people. So if we
 can get things closer to working by revbumping a bunch of ports, we
 should do that ASAP. Is there any reason *not* to revbump p5-* (or more
 precisely anything using PortGroup perl5?)

If no one objects, I'll do exactly this today.

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Arno Hautala
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:45, Dan Ports dpo...@macports.org wrote:

 If no one objects, I'll do exactly this today.

One, slight, objection.

In the interest of not having to revbump twice, are we ready to fully
migrate to 5.12?
I've seen several votes for dropping the multiple perl versions and
just following the latest stable release. I haven't seen any requests
to stick with the existing multiple version support.

If there's a consensus to just move to 5.21, I say do both today.
If the consensus isn't there yet, revbump first.

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2011-03-01 16:45 , Dan Ports wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:34:22PM -0800, Dan Ports wrote:
 I see this as a high-priority issue that affects many people. So if we
 can get things closer to working by revbumping a bunch of ports, we
 should do that ASAP. Is there any reason *not* to revbump p5-* (or more
 precisely anything using PortGroup perl5?)
 
 If no one objects, I'll do exactly this today.

Not an objection per se, but as this has been discussed on
macports-users only, I am explicitly adding Eric and Marcus as current
maintainers of perl5 to CC to this post.

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Eric Hall
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 11:09:19AM -0500, Arno Hautala wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:45, Dan Ports dpo...@macports.org wrote:
 
  If no one objects, I'll do exactly this today.
 
 One, slight, objection.
 
 In the interest of not having to revbump twice, are we ready to fully
 migrate to 5.12?
 I've seen several votes for dropping the multiple perl versions and
 just following the latest stable release. I haven't seen any requests
 to stick with the existing multiple version support.
 
 If there's a consensus to just move to 5.21, I say do both today.
 If the consensus isn't there yet, revbump first.

I'm quite clear on the need for multiple versions of perl.
For one, I use several perl versions for what I do.  IIRC the ghc port
requires perl5.8 for its configuration, newer versions of perl
don't work (this may have changed, though I see ghc still depends
on perl5.8).  There may be additional reasons to maintain several
perl versions.

Revbumping all the p5-* ports is certainly an easy solution
to the problem, and perhaps should have been done at the same time
the perl5* changes went in.


-eric

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Re: port upgrade outdated woes continued ... now help2man wont upgrade

2011-03-01 Thread Bill Christensen
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Andrea D'Amore and.dam...@macports.orgwrote:

 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Gregory Dodwell gregree...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  port contents p5-locale-gettext
  Port p5-locale-gettext contains:
/opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.9/darwin-2level/Locale/gettext.pm

  /opt/local/bin/perl  'foreach $prefix (@INC) {print $prefix\n;}'
  /opt/local/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.9/darwin-2level

 That looks fine.

 Just to reproduce the bug can you run:
  port clean --all help2man
  port selfupdate
  port -d configure help2man

 and paste the part after ---  Configuring help2man line?


I'm looking for solutions for the same problem, and it appears that this is
as far as this thread went.  Maybe you continued off list...

Here's what I get:

---  Configuring help2man
DEBUG: Using compiler 'Mac OS X gcc 4.2'
DEBUG: configure phase started at Tue Mar  1 12:23:53 CST 2011
DEBUG: Executing org.macports.configure (help2man)
DEBUG: Environment: CPATH='/opt/local/include' CFLAGS='-pipe -O2 -arch
x86_64' CPPFLAGS='-I/opt/local/include' CXXFLAGS='-pipe -O2 -arch x86_64'
LIBRARY_PATH='/opt/local/lib' MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET='10.6'
PERL='/opt/local/bin/perl' CXX='/usr/bin/g++-4.2'
CC_PRINT_OPTIONS_FILE='/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_textproc_help2man/work/.CC_PRINT_OPTIONS'
F90FLAGS='-pipe -O2 -m64' LDFLAGS='-L/opt/local/lib -arch x86_64'
OBJC='/usr/bin/gcc-4.2' FCFLAGS='-pipe -O2 -m64' INSTALL='/usr/bin/install
-c' OBJCFLAGS='-pipe -O2 -arch x86_64' FFLAGS='-pipe -O2 -m64'
CC_PRINT_OPTIONS='YES' CC='/usr/bin/gcc-4.2'
DEBUG: Assembled command: 'cd
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_textproc_help2man/work/help2man-1.38.4
 ./configure --prefix=/opt/local --enable-nls'
checking for perl... /opt/local/bin/perl
checking for module Locale::gettext... no
checking for msgfmt... /opt/local/bin/msgfmt
checking for gcc... /usr/bin/gcc-4.2
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 accepts -g... yes
checking for /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking for library containing dlsym... none required
checking for library containing bindtextdomain... -lintl
configure: error: perl module Locale::gettext required
shell command  cd
/opt/local/var/macports/build/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_textproc_help2man/work/help2man-1.38.4
 ./configure --prefix=/opt/local --enable-nls  returned error 1
Error: Target org.macports.configure returned: configure failure: shell
command failed (see log for details)
DEBUG: Backtrace: configure failure: shell command failed (see log for
details)
while executing
$procedure $targetname
Warning: the following items did not execute (for help2man):
org.macports.configure
Log for help2man is at:
/opt/local/var/macports/logs/_opt_local_var_macports_sources_rsync.macports.org_release_ports_textproc_help2man/main.log
Error: Status 1 encountered during processing.


Considering the error: perl module Locale::gettext required, is this
essentially fallout of the perl5 discussion currently going on?


Thanks for any insights.
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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Feb 28, 2011, at 20:33, Arno Hautala wrote:

 This would also be a good candidate for enhancing the perl5 PortGroup.
 Automatically revbump when the perl5 port is updated. Though this
 could probably be rolled into the version dependency work.

The portgroup isn't the appropriate place to do that. I'm not even sure code to 
do what you're suggesting is possible in a portgroup. I think revbumps will 
have to continue to happen individually in each affected port.


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perl5 AND perl5.8 ?

2011-03-01 Thread Erwan David
I never explicitely installed perl, it came from dependencies.
Today port outdated says:
perl5  5.8.9_0  5.12.3_0
perl5.85.8.9_3  5.8.9_4

What should I do ?

I doubt having perl 5.8 and perl 5.12 will be okay...

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Re: perl5 AND perl5.8 ?

2011-03-01 Thread Scott Webster
2011/3/1 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org:
        I never explicitely installed perl, it came from dependencies.
 Today port outdated says:
 perl5                          5.8.9_0  5.12.3_0
 perl5.8                        5.8.9_3  5.8.9_4

 What should I do ?

 I doubt having perl 5.8 and perl 5.12 will be okay...

I would probably wait and not upgrade those packages until after the
whole perl thing is sorted out.  If you upgrade now there is a good
chance that some of your software will stop working.

Alternatively you could switch perl5 to use the perl5_8 variant; or
upgrade it as is (which will switch to perl5.12) and then recompile
all of your p5-* ports.

Scott
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Re: perl5 AND perl5.8 ?

2011-03-01 Thread Erwan David
On 01/03/11 21:02, Scott Webster wrote:
 2011/3/1 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org:
I never explicitely installed perl, it came from dependencies.
 Today port outdated says:
 perl5  5.8.9_0  5.12.3_0
 perl5.85.8.9_3  5.8.9_4

 What should I do ?

 I doubt having perl 5.8 and perl 5.12 will be okay...
 
 I would probably wait and not upgrade those packages until after the
 whole perl thing is sorted out.  If you upgrade now there is a good
 chance that some of your software will stop working.
 
 Alternatively you could switch perl5 to use the perl5_8 variant; or
 upgrade it as is (which will switch to perl5.12) and then recompile
 all of your p5-* ports.
 
 Scott
 

Easier : With several port uninstall, I arrived to the conclusion that
only autoconf and automake needed it, (with help2man and
p5-locale-gettext) : I removed everything, since they are only build
dependencies.

A way to remove the build dependencies would be interesting
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Re: perl5 AND perl5.8 ?

2011-03-01 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Erwan David wrote:
 
 A way to remove the build dependencies would be interesting

port echo leaves

could probably get you close to that... 

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
 On Feb 28, 2011, at 20:33, Arno Hautala wrote:
 
 This would also be a good candidate for enhancing the perl5 PortGroup.
 Automatically revbump when the perl5 port is updated. Though this
 could probably be rolled into the version dependency work.
 
 The portgroup isn't the appropriate place to do that.

Why not?

 I'm not even sure code to do what you're suggesting is possible in a 
 portgroup. 

Why not?

Looks like portindex uses mportopen. I haven't tested it (yet), but a cursory 
look at the source seems to indicate that it should work.

The group file is basically just included into the portfile anyway.

 I think revbumps will have to continue to happen individually in each 
 affected port.

I think it would actually make sense to just set the epoch in the p5 portgroup 
(say to something like MMDDxx). Then only ports that install perl modules 
that don't use the portgroup would need to be individually touched.

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Re: perl5 AND perl5.8 ?

2011-03-01 Thread Erwan David
Le Tue  1/03/2011, Daniel J. Luke disait
 On Mar 1, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Erwan David wrote:
  
  A way to remove the build dependencies would be interesting
 
 port echo leaves
 
 could probably get you close to that... 
 

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Re: port upgrade outdated woes continued ... now help2man wont upgrade

2011-03-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:38, Bill Christensen wrote:

 Considering the error: perl module Locale::gettext required, is this 
 essentially fallout of the perl5 discussion currently going on?

Presumably yes. Did you rebuild all your perl modules after upgrading perl? If 
not, that's the suggested resolution for now.


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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 1, 2011, at 14:13, Daniel J. Luke wrote:

 On Mar 1, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
 
 On Feb 28, 2011, at 20:33, Arno Hautala wrote:
 
 This would also be a good candidate for enhancing the perl5 PortGroup.
 Automatically revbump when the perl5 port is updated. Though this
 could probably be rolled into the version dependency work.
 
 The portgroup isn't the appropriate place to do that.
 
 Why not?
 
 I'm not even sure code to do what you're suggesting is possible in a 
 portgroup. 
 
 Why not?
 
 Looks like portindex uses mportopen. I haven't tested it (yet), but a cursory 
 look at the source seems to indicate that it should work.
 
 The group file is basically just included into the portfile anyway.

The suggestion was: when the version of perl is updated, all ports using the 
perl5 portgroup should automatically have their revisions increased. I don't 
know how to accomplish that using a portgroup.

Yes, the portgroup is included into the portfile, but at the very top, before 
anything else in the port has been executed. Then a few lines further down, the 
port calls the perl5.setup procedure, passing it the name and version of the 
perl module. Then the port might define a revision, if there is one. By the 
time the port defines a revision, if any, there are no more calls to the 
portgroup, thus no chance for it to modify the revision. And even if there 
would be a way for it to, say, increment the revision that's already in the 
portfile, that would be pretty confusing, wouldn't it? The portfile says 
version 1.0 revision 1 but in fact version 1.0 revision 2 gets installed. If 
the maintainer increases the revision in the portfile to 3, revision 4 actually 
gets installed. Nobody would expect that. And would such code just stay in the 
portgroup stay there forever? I don't see how it could ever be removed.

But I can stop thinking about that idea because you proposed a different one:


 I think revbumps will have to continue to happen individually in each 
 affected port.
 
 I think it would actually make sense to just set the epoch in the p5 
 portgroup (say to something like MMDDxx). Then only ports that install 
 perl modules that don't use the portgroup would need to be individually 
 touched.

I had not considered using the epoch, and that might work. It presupposes that 
no existing port using this portgroup already has an epoch set higher than this 
proposed value, but that's not an unreasonable supposition. It also requires 
that if a port sets the epoch, it do so before the portgroup, so that the 
portgroup can override it. Logically, the epoch has higher precedence than the 
version, and so should appear in the portfile on a line above the version, but 
many existing ports have their epochs on the line below the version. So we 
would have to mass-update epochs to ensure they're before versions, and clearly 
document this requirement, and also the requirement that p5 ports would need to 
use an epoch of the same format that the portgroup uses. (I never really liked 
seeing the epoch as a date/timestamp because I didn't see any purpose to it, 
and was going to change the Guide to recommend simple incrementing integers, 
like we use for the revision and like many ports use f
 or the epoch, but this suggestion for the perl ports does look like a good use 
of that.)



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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
 
 The suggestion was: when the version of perl is updated, all ports using the 
 perl5 portgroup should automatically have their revisions increased. I don't 
 know how to accomplish that using a portgroup.

Well, you could do it the same way as you would with the epoch (I just think it 
makes more sense to use epoch).

It would still probably require looking at any port that had a revision set 
already.

 I think revbumps will have to continue to happen individually in each 
 affected port.
 
 I think it would actually make sense to just set the epoch in the p5 
 portgroup (say to something like MMDDxx). Then only ports that install 
 perl modules that don't use the portgroup would need to be individually 
 touched.
 
 I had not considered using the epoch, and that might work. It presupposes 
 that no existing port using this portgroup already has an epoch set higher 
 than this proposed value, but that's not an unreasonable supposition. It also 
 requires that if a port sets the epoch, it do so before the portgroup, so 
 that the portgroup can override it.

unless you want the portgroup to be able to override the individual ports as 
well (special magic to set it only if it's greater than the one in the portfile 
maybe?)

 Logically, the epoch has higher precedence than the version, and so should 
 appear in the portfile on a line above the version, but many existing ports 
 have their epochs on the line below the version. So we would have to 
 mass-update epochs to ensure they're before versions, and clearly document 
 this requirement, and also the requirement that p5 ports would need to use an 
 epoch of the same format that the portgroup uses.

... but unless we put some code in the portgroup to do special magic, there's 
still a problem if you ever want to set epoch in the port

Without any magic, it only requires looking at any ports that do set epoch on 
their own (as opposed to rev-bumping or setting epoch on every single port).

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Dan Ports
I just revbumped all of the ports that build perl5 modules in r76604.

So if you have been having problems, the next 
`port selfupdate  port upgrade outdated` should rebuild quite a few
ports with perl 5.12 and get things working again.

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Re: perl5, perl5.* changes

2011-03-01 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:01:18AM CET, Dan Ports dpo...@macports.org said:
 I just revbumped all of the ports that build perl5 modules in r76604.
 
 So if you have been having problems, the next 
 `port selfupdate  port upgrade outdated` should rebuild quite a few
 ports with perl 5.12 and get things working again.
 
 Dan

ANd what abbout ports like ghostscript which depends on perl, but are not in 
p5-* ?

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