Re: nagios postfix

2012-03-29 Thread
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Phil Dobbin  schrieb:

>setting up mutt on OS X & intend to do the same. Can I substitute msmtp
>for postfix when using nagios does anybody know? msmtp is a far easier
>beast to deal with than postfix & I'd rather avoid postfix unless it's
>necessary.

I did not know msmtp in detail, but nagios did not need a full MTA or MDA - it 
just requires any MUA for sending mail like "mail", ssmtp, "mutt", pine or 
whatever too is able for sending mail from command line. Not shure why so many 
users are installing a large and complex MTA suite when they only need a 
little, small MUA - this mainly leads to many crap and problems within internet 
email networks.

But you can configure notification commands completely byself in another way 
too within nagios' commands config.

hth
good luck!


cheers,


Niels.
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Syndicat IT&Internet
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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread James Berry
Sam,

On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Sam Kuper wrote:

> On 29 March 2012 20:11, Ryan Schmidt  wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 14:04, Jan Stary wrote:
>>> What exactly is the
>>> relation of macports to Apple as a corporation?
>> 
>> http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsHistory
> 
> This is helpful but not very detailed. It doesn't clearly explain how
> much involvement, if any, Apple has had since this email was sent[1],
> in which is was written that, 'James Berry, a member of the
> DarwinPorts steering committee says: "We are pleased that by offering
> us hosting and administrative support services, Apple continues to
> demonstrate its strong commitment to the open source community. That
> support is vital to our project."

Apple continues to be a big help with many of MacPorts costs through providing 
hosting, internet access, machine administration, etc, through MacOSForge. A 
number of Apple employees maintain ports and contribute to the project.

We have spoken to some folks at Apple about this issue, they are aware of the 
potential infrastructure needs this might bring up, and I'm sure they will help 
help out there as needed. I don't think I'll go into potential legal avenues at 
this time...

James

> 
> If Apple is still providing hosting and administrative support
> services, perhaps they could intervene
> (legally/financially/technologically) to ensure that there is no
> disruption to the Macports project because of gkg.net's shameful
> intransigence. If so, who would be the right person to contact at
> Apple, to bring this to Apple's attention? Is there still a
> DarwinPorts/MacPorts steering committee?
> 
> Does anyone here have time to look over
> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities
> and/or related documents for any applicable clauses that might
> disallow registrars from acting as gkg.net has done? Might be
> worthwhile.
> 
> Sam
> 
> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.opendarwin.darwinports/18725
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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Mar 29, 2012, at 22:24, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On 29 March 2012 20:11, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 14:04, Jan Stary wrote:
>>> What exactly is the
>>> relation of macports to Apple as a corporation?
>> 
>> http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsHistory
> 
> This is helpful but not very detailed. It doesn't clearly explain how
> much involvement, if any, Apple has had since this email was sent[1],
> in which is was written that, 'James Berry, a member of the
> DarwinPorts steering committee says: "We are pleased that by offering
> us hosting and administrative support services, Apple continues to
> demonstrate its strong commitment to the open source community. That
> support is vital to our project."
> 
> If Apple is still providing hosting and administrative support
> services, perhaps they could intervene
> (legally/financially/technologically) to ensure that there is no
> disruption to the Macports project because of gkg.net's shameful
> intransigence. If so, who would be the right person to contact at
> Apple, to bring this to Apple's attention? Is there still a
> DarwinPorts/MacPorts steering committee?

Apple still runs Mac OS Forge. Mac OS Forge still provides our hosting and 
infrastructure. People with apple.com email addresses still contribute to ports 
and base. MacPorts is an independent open-source project and is not under 
Apple's supervision or jurisdiction.

We have not attempted to contact Apple Legal and do not believe they would want 
to get involved in this matter.

We have funds available from prior years of Google Summers of Code.

The steering committee is now called the MacPorts management (or "portmgr"), 
and consists of jmr, raimue, and myself. The former management is called the 
elder council and consists of jberry, jmpp and mww.

Today James attempted to pay the required fees to restore our account with gkg 
to good standing. I have not heard whether he was successful in doing so.


> Does anyone here have time to look over
> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities
> and/or related documents for any applicable clauses that might
> disallow registrars from acting as gkg.net has done? Might be
> worthwhile.
> 
> Sam
> 
> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.opendarwin.darwinports/18725


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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread James Berry

On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:

>> My take on this is that GKG.NET has at least one example on record of their 
>> behaving in a less than exemplary manner, namely using the BBB logo without 
>> permission:
>> 
>> http://www.bbb.org/bryan/business-reviews/internet-services/gkgnet-in-bryan-tx-7007745
> 
> Sounds like there should be a new complaint filed very soon ...

Let's please consider complaints about this issue only after we are able to 
transition to another registrar…

James
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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
> My take on this is that GKG.NET has at least one example on record of their 
> behaving in a less than exemplary manner, namely using the BBB logo without 
> permission:
> 
> http://www.bbb.org/bryan/business-reviews/internet-services/gkgnet-in-bryan-tx-7007745

Sounds like there should be a new complaint filed very soon ...



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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
My take on this is that GKG.NET has at least one example on record of their 
behaving in a less than exemplary manner, namely using the BBB logo without 
permission:

http://www.bbb.org/bryan/business-reviews/internet-services/gkgnet-in-bryan-tx-7007745

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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Sam Kuper
On 29 March 2012 20:11, Ryan Schmidt  wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 14:04, Jan Stary wrote:
> > What exactly is the
> > relation of macports to Apple as a corporation?
>
> http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsHistory

This is helpful but not very detailed. It doesn't clearly explain how
much involvement, if any, Apple has had since this email was sent[1],
in which is was written that, 'James Berry, a member of the
DarwinPorts steering committee says: "We are pleased that by offering
us hosting and administrative support services, Apple continues to
demonstrate its strong commitment to the open source community. That
support is vital to our project."

If Apple is still providing hosting and administrative support
services, perhaps they could intervene
(legally/financially/technologically) to ensure that there is no
disruption to the Macports project because of gkg.net's shameful
intransigence. If so, who would be the right person to contact at
Apple, to bring this to Apple's attention? Is there still a
DarwinPorts/MacPorts steering committee?

Does anyone here have time to look over
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registrars/registrant-rights-responsibilities
and/or related documents for any applicable clauses that might
disallow registrars from acting as gkg.net has done? Might be
worthwhile.

Sam

[1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.opendarwin.darwinports/18725
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nagios postfix

2012-03-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
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Hi, all.

I've just installed nagios & after reading the docs from Nagio's
website, I'm going to set it up (thanks, btw, for the excellent, clear &
concise instructions on the port install).

On Linux I use msmtp as my SMTP server for mutt & am in the process of
setting up mutt on OS X & intend to do the same. Can I substitute msmtp
for postfix when using nagios does anybody know? msmtp is a far easier
beast to deal with than postfix & I'd rather avoid postfix unless it's
necessary.

Thanks for any answers,

Cheers,

Phil...

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Re: Trouble distributing application that links to MacPort libraries

2012-03-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
I replied in that ticket also, but I suggest you look into using dylibbundler 
or similar process instead of messing with DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH.

http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name&substr=dylibbundler


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Trouble distributing application that links to MacPort libraries

2012-03-29 Thread Peter Schmitt
Hi macports-users!

I installed some ports on a build machine. I then build my application
and `otool -L myApp.binary` shows dependencies on some MacPorts
libraries installed at /opt/local/lib. myApp.binary runs fine on this
build machine.  In order to deploy my application to other machines, I
copy the corresponding libraries to "myApplication/darwin-libs" and
write a wrapper script at "myApplication/launchMyApp.sh" which looks
something like this:

>
>  #!/bin/env sh
>  # this is "launchMyApp.sh".
>  export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/myApplication/darwin-libs
>  /path/to/myApplication/myApp.binary.
>

Now when I run launchMyApp.sh on either the build or the user machine,
I get an error:

>  dyld: Symbol not found: _iconv
>Referenced from: /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib
>Expected in: /path/to/myApplication/darwin-libs/libiconv.2.dylib
>   in /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib

The confusing thing is that libcups.2.dylib isn't used anywhere in my
application: `otool -L myApp.binary` and all the libraries in
/opt/local/lib/* do not resolve any reference to
/usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib! I can "fix" the problem by either

>
> cp /usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib /path/to/myApplication/darwin-libs
>
or appending

>
>DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH+=/usr/lib
>

to launchMyApp.sh. I only get this behavior when running
launchMyApp.sh on OSX 10.7 (Lion) machines. The whole procedure seems
to work fine on Leopard and Snow Leopard machines.  Any idea of what's
going on here?

I found a ticket describing simliar behavior (ticket #32348
[https://trac.macports.org/ticket/32348]).  I added my findings and
figured someone on macports-users might have an idea of what I'm doing
wrong.  Has anyone else ran into this problem?

Thanks,
Pete
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Re: Creating a Private Mirror of MacPorts...

2012-03-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Mar 29, 2012, at 16:22, Jeremy Lavergne wrote:

>> I have mac users who cannot connect to the Internet.
>> 
>> I need to create a private mirror for MacPorts for them... But, so far, I 
>> haven't been able to find any documentation on how to do that.
>> 
>> Does anybody know where I can find documentation for that? Has anybody done 
>> it?

People who wanted to host mirrors have typically emailed us at the portmgr 
address, so the discussions and the instructions we send haven't appeared on a 
public list. Not that it's a secret particularly. We could probably put 
something in the wiki.


>> Whee!!!
>> 
>> -RZ
>> 
>> p.s.  the only server I have available for a MacPorts mirror is running 
>> Linux.
> 
> You might check out `port -p mirror` to grab dist files (this might be a case 
> where port can run natively on Linux). You can then point a web server at the 
> folder where everything is saved.

Right. Alternately, you can rsync from any of our distfiles servers, listed on 
the Mirrors wiki page. (Pick one close to you.) This will get you lots of 
obsolete files you probably don't need, since the mirrors keep files forever. 
On the other hand, it means you don't have to have MacPorts installed. (Many 
(most?) of our mirrors aren't running OS X either.)


> I think you can then just have the internet-less citizens point 
> distfiles.macports.org to your server, or add it to the list of 
> macports_distfiles fetch mirrors:
> ${prefix}/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/_resources/port1.0/fetch/mirror_sites.tcl

If you sync your ports with rsync, as the above path suggests, your changes 
will be wiped out next time you sync, which isn't so great. But if you switch 
to using a Subversion working copy for your ports, your change is kept. This is 
what I do; I have several local machines, and on each one, the others' 
addresses are listed in mirror_sites.tcl.

MacPorts does not subsist on distfiles alone, of course; you need the actual 
portfiles too. You can rsync those too. To specify an alternate location to get 
portfiles from, you'll want to edit sources.conf.


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Re: Creating a Private Mirror of MacPorts...

2012-03-29 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
> I have mac users who cannot connect to the Internet.
> 
> I need to create a private mirror for MacPorts for them... But, so far, I 
> haven't been able to find any documentation on how to do that.
> 
> Does anybody know where I can find documentation for that? Has anybody done 
> it?
> 
> Whee!!!
> 
> -RZ
> 
> p.s.  the only server I have available for a MacPorts mirror is running Linux.

You might check out `port -p mirror` to grab dist files (this might be a case 
where port can run natively on Linux). You can then point a web server at the 
folder where everything is saved.

I think you can then just have the internet-less citizens point 
distfiles.macports.org to your server, or add it to the list of 
macports_distfiles fetch mirrors:
${prefix}/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/ports/_resources/port1.0/fetch/mirror_sites.tcl



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Creating a Private Mirror of MacPorts...

2012-03-29 Thread Randy Zagar

I have mac users who cannot connect to the Internet.

I need to create a private mirror for MacPorts for them... But, so far, 
I haven't been able to find any documentation on how to do that.


Does anybody know where I can find documentation for that? Has anybody 
done it?


Whee!!!

-RZ

p.s.  the only server I have available for a MacPorts mirror is running 
Linux.


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E-mail: za...@arlut.utexas.eduApplied Research Laboratories
Phone: 512 835-3131   Univ. of Texas at Austin




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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Mar 29, 2012, at 14:04, Jan Stary wrote:

> What exactly is the
> relation of macports to Apple as a corporation?

http://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsHistory


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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Jan Stary
On Mar 30 03:09:32, Joshua Root wrote:
> Short version: Our domain registrar, gkg.net, is threatening to cancel
> the registration of macports.org and other domains that redirect to it.
> We do not know whether they will follow through on this threat.
> 
> If they do, we will have no choice but to move our services to another
> domain, at least temporarily. Tentatively, that would be
> macports.macosforge.org for www.macports.org, and
> trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports for trac.macports.org. We also
> have macportz.org and macportz.com registered through another registrar
> in case we need them.
> 
> If this does happen, the mailing lists will keep working, though
> @macports.org email aliases will not. Our IRC channel, #macports on
> Freenode, will also continue to be available. Further information will
> be posted in these two places if necessary.
> 
> Background on the issue:
> 
> James Berry, who handles the domain registrations for the project,
> recently renewed them. While doing so, he accidentally checked a box
> requesting another service along with the registrations. He immediately
> informed GKG of the error, and for the next several weeks corresponded
> with them, asking them to cancel the unwanted service and provide a
> refund. They refused to do so.
> 
> He then sought and obtained a chargeback from his credit card company.
> After that, GKG contacted him and stated that to avoid closure of his
> account, he had to pay a "chargeback fee" (which was greater than the
> amount refunded), and provide "a notarized letter from the Registrant
> and the person who paid for the services (if the person is different
> from the Registrant) stating that they understand the charges they
> incurred, they agreed to the charges, and they will not charge the
> services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
> Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
> chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
> services originally."
> 
> James will not be providing the requested letter since some of the
> statements in it would be false.
> 
> - Josh (for PortMgr)
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On Mar 29 09:53:02, James Berry wrote:
> It would be best to transfer to another registrar asap, but we are unable to 
> do so because:
> 
>  (1) Our domain is currently under registrar lock because, according to GKG 
> policies, it is within a 60-day period following renewal.
> 
>  (2) Pending resolution of our current dispute, they may decide unilaterally 
> to further extend this registrar lock, effectively holding our domains 
> hostage.


They sure sound like a very shitty registrar.

If I read their pricing right, the amount in question is not that much,
ad the dispute is more a matter of principle (as in "not to be fucked
with"); I sympathize with that.

If the above really canot be worked around, I suggest you pay
for the unwanted services, move to another registrar once the
domain is unlocked, and taking inspiration from
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=orbitz_blows
use the powers of teh interwebz to make this the most expensive
dollars they have ever made.

(For example, those of us users of macports.org who
work in the webhosting bussiness could let gkg.net know
about the thousands of domains they will never have in their portfolio,
and the hundreds of domains we are moving to other registrars right now.)

BTW, reading the whois for the domain, I see that
Apple is the technical contact for the domain and
runs the nameservers for it. What exactly is the
relation of macports to Apple as a corporation?

Jan

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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Phil Dobbin
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On 29/03/2012 17:53, James Berry wrote:

> It would be best to transfer to another registrar asap, but we are
> unable to do so because:
> 
>  (1) Our domain is currently under registrar lock because, according to
> GKG policies, it is within a 60-day period following renewal.
> 
>  (2) Pending resolution of our current dispute, they may decide
> unilaterally to further extend this registrar lock, effectively holding
> our domains hostage.

Well, if they succeed in their intentions to squeeze monies from you on
a simple human error which was immediately spotted & was attempted to
rectify, I do hope they get enough negative feedback from across the Web
to make them think twice next time about publicising their "Experience
GKG Customer Satisfaction" claim.

Good luck,

  Phil...

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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:45, Sam Kuper  wrote:

> gkg.net sounds awful. Hope I never have any dealings with them!
>
> Wouldn't it be best to simply transfer the domain to another registrar
> asap? I've found Dreamhost, Moniker and 123-reg to all be reasonably
> helpful and reasonably priced for domain registration.


You may have missed the part where they slapped a freeze on the domain...

services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
>> Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
>> chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
>> services originally."
>>
>
This, BTW, I strongly suspect is legally extortion.  Unfortunately I
suspect MacPorts has no recourse

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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread James Berry
It would be best to transfer to another registrar asap, but we are unable to do 
so because:

 (1) Our domain is currently under registrar lock because, according to GKG 
policies, it is within a 60-day period following renewal.

 (2) Pending resolution of our current dispute, they may decide unilaterally to 
further extend this registrar lock, effectively holding our domains hostage.

James

On Mar 29, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Sam Kuper wrote:

> gkg.net sounds awful. Hope I never have any dealings with them!
> 
> Wouldn't it be best to simply transfer the domain to another registrar asap? 
> I've found Dreamhost, Moniker and 123-reg to all be reasonably helpful and 
> reasonably priced for domain registration.
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
> On 29 March 2012 17:09, Joshua Root  wrote:
> Short version: Our domain registrar, gkg.net, is threatening to cancel
> the registration of macports.org and other domains that redirect to it.
> We do not know whether they will follow through on this threat.
> 
> If they do, we will have no choice but to move our services to another
> domain, at least temporarily. Tentatively, that would be
> macports.macosforge.org for www.macports.org, and
> trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports for trac.macports.org. We also
> have macportz.org and macportz.com registered through another registrar
> in case we need them.
> 
> If this does happen, the mailing lists will keep working, though
> @macports.org email aliases will not. Our IRC channel, #macports on
> Freenode, will also continue to be available. Further information will
> be posted in these two places if necessary.
> 
> Background on the issue:
> 
> James Berry, who handles the domain registrations for the project,
> recently renewed them. While doing so, he accidentally checked a box
> requesting another service along with the registrations. He immediately
> informed GKG of the error, and for the next several weeks corresponded
> with them, asking them to cancel the unwanted service and provide a
> refund. They refused to do so.
> 
> He then sought and obtained a chargeback from his credit card company.
> After that, GKG contacted him and stated that to avoid closure of his
> account, he had to pay a "chargeback fee" (which was greater than the
> amount refunded), and provide "a notarized letter from the Registrant
> and the person who paid for the services (if the person is different
> from the Registrant) stating that they understand the charges they
> incurred, they agreed to the charges, and they will not charge the
> services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
> Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
> chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
> services originally."
> 
> James will not be providing the requested letter since some of the
> statements in it would be false.
> 
> - Josh (for PortMgr)
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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
and namecheap, who are fairly progressive, anti-SOPA and all that.


On Mar 29, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Sam Kuper wrote:

> gkg.net sounds awful. Hope I never have any dealings with them!
> 
> Wouldn't it be best to simply transfer the domain to another registrar
> asap? I've found Dreamhost, Moniker and 123-reg to all be reasonably
> helpful and reasonably priced for domain registration.
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
> On 29 March 2012 17:09, Joshua Root  wrote:
> 
>> Short version: Our domain registrar, gkg.net, is threatening to cancel
>> the registration of macports.org and other domains that redirect to it.
>> We do not know whether they will follow through on this threat.
>> 
>> If they do, we will have no choice but to move our services to another
>> domain, at least temporarily. Tentatively, that would be
>> macports.macosforge.org for www.macports.org, and
>> trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports for trac.macports.org. We also
>> have macportz.org and macportz.com registered through another registrar
>> in case we need them.
>> 
>> If this does happen, the mailing lists will keep working, though
>> @macports.org email aliases will not. Our IRC channel, #macports on
>> Freenode, will also continue to be available. Further information will
>> be posted in these two places if necessary.
>> 
>> Background on the issue:
>> 
>> James Berry, who handles the domain registrations for the project,
>> recently renewed them. While doing so, he accidentally checked a box
>> requesting another service along with the registrations. He immediately
>> informed GKG of the error, and for the next several weeks corresponded
>> with them, asking them to cancel the unwanted service and provide a
>> refund. They refused to do so.
>> 
>> He then sought and obtained a chargeback from his credit card company.
>> After that, GKG contacted him and stated that to avoid closure of his
>> account, he had to pay a "chargeback fee" (which was greater than the
>> amount refunded), and provide "a notarized letter from the Registrant
>> and the person who paid for the services (if the person is different
>> from the Registrant) stating that they understand the charges they
>> incurred, they agreed to the charges, and they will not charge the
>> services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
>> Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
>> chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
>> services originally."
>> 
>> James will not be providing the requested letter since some of the
>> statements in it would be false.
>> 
>> - Josh (for PortMgr)
>> 

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Re: Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Sam Kuper
gkg.net sounds awful. Hope I never have any dealings with them!

Wouldn't it be best to simply transfer the domain to another registrar
asap? I've found Dreamhost, Moniker and 123-reg to all be reasonably
helpful and reasonably priced for domain registration.

Sam


On 29 March 2012 17:09, Joshua Root  wrote:

> Short version: Our domain registrar, gkg.net, is threatening to cancel
> the registration of macports.org and other domains that redirect to it.
> We do not know whether they will follow through on this threat.
>
> If they do, we will have no choice but to move our services to another
> domain, at least temporarily. Tentatively, that would be
> macports.macosforge.org for www.macports.org, and
> trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports for trac.macports.org. We also
> have macportz.org and macportz.com registered through another registrar
> in case we need them.
>
> If this does happen, the mailing lists will keep working, though
> @macports.org email aliases will not. Our IRC channel, #macports on
> Freenode, will also continue to be available. Further information will
> be posted in these two places if necessary.
>
> Background on the issue:
>
> James Berry, who handles the domain registrations for the project,
> recently renewed them. While doing so, he accidentally checked a box
> requesting another service along with the registrations. He immediately
> informed GKG of the error, and for the next several weeks corresponded
> with them, asking them to cancel the unwanted service and provide a
> refund. They refused to do so.
>
> He then sought and obtained a chargeback from his credit card company.
> After that, GKG contacted him and stated that to avoid closure of his
> account, he had to pay a "chargeback fee" (which was greater than the
> amount refunded), and provide "a notarized letter from the Registrant
> and the person who paid for the services (if the person is different
> from the Registrant) stating that they understand the charges they
> incurred, they agreed to the charges, and they will not charge the
> services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
> Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
> chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
> services originally."
>
> James will not be providing the requested letter since some of the
> statements in it would be false.
>
> - Josh (for PortMgr)
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Potential disruption to MacPorts domain registration

2012-03-29 Thread Joshua Root
Short version: Our domain registrar, gkg.net, is threatening to cancel
the registration of macports.org and other domains that redirect to it.
We do not know whether they will follow through on this threat.

If they do, we will have no choice but to move our services to another
domain, at least temporarily. Tentatively, that would be
macports.macosforge.org for www.macports.org, and
trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports for trac.macports.org. We also
have macportz.org and macportz.com registered through another registrar
in case we need them.

If this does happen, the mailing lists will keep working, though
@macports.org email aliases will not. Our IRC channel, #macports on
Freenode, will also continue to be available. Further information will
be posted in these two places if necessary.

Background on the issue:

James Berry, who handles the domain registrations for the project,
recently renewed them. While doing so, he accidentally checked a box
requesting another service along with the registrations. He immediately
informed GKG of the error, and for the next several weeks corresponded
with them, asking them to cancel the unwanted service and provide a
refund. They refused to do so.

He then sought and obtained a chargeback from his credit card company.
After that, GKG contacted him and stated that to avoid closure of his
account, he had to pay a "chargeback fee" (which was greater than the
amount refunded), and provide "a notarized letter from the Registrant
and the person who paid for the services (if the person is different
from the Registrant) stating that they understand the charges they
incurred, they agreed to the charges, and they will not charge the
services back. The letter will also agree to the domains remaining on
Registrar Lock until GKG decides that there is no longer a threat of a
chargeback from the Registrant and/or the person who paid for the
services originally."

James will not be providing the requested letter since some of the
statements in it would be false.

- Josh (for PortMgr)
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