Macports 2.2.0-beta1

2013-06-13 Thread Steve Powell
I did a port self update yesterday, and apart from a few glitches (during 
update outdated) which ran fine
second time, I now see:

 : port version
Version: 2.1.3

 : port list macports
MacPorts   @2.2.0-beta1sysutils/MacPorts

Why did the beta version get downloaded when I didn't ask for it?  Am I running 
the beta version or not?

Steve Powell [Pivotal]
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Re: Macports 2.2.0-beta1

2013-06-13 Thread Clemens Lang
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:30:33AM +0100, Steve Powell wrote:
  : port version
 Version: 2.1.3
  : port list macports
 MacPorts   @2.2.0-beta1sysutils/MacPorts
 
 Why did the beta version get downloaded when I didn't ask for it?

What makes you think the beta version was downloaded? What you see in
`port list macports` is just what could be installed, if you ran `port
install macports`. However,

 Am I running the beta version or not?

The MacPorts port is only used to build the binary installer packages
that will be available for download from the website. Changes in the
MacPorts port do not affect your MacPorts installation. Only selfupdate
will change your version of base. You are thus /not/ running the beta,
unless you manually installed it.

-- 
Clemens Lang

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Re: Macports 2.2.0-beta1

2013-06-13 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
 I did a port self update yesterday, and apart from a few glitches (during 
 update outdated) which ran fine
 second time, I now see:
 
  : port version
 Version: 2.1.3
 
  : port list macports
 MacPorts   @2.2.0-beta1sysutils/MacPorts
 
 Why did the beta version get downloaded when I didn't ask for it?  Am I 
 running the beta version or not?

The `list` command (from `man port`) displays a list of the latest version of 
each port, which does not reflect what's installed.

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Re: Macports 2.2.0-beta1

2013-06-13 Thread Steve Powell
Yup, silly me. Thanks.
Steve Powell [Pivotal]
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Le Barbier de Séville (1773), act I, scene II

On 13 Jun 2013, at 12:10, Jeremy Lavergne jer...@lavergne.gotdns.org wrote:

 I did a port self update yesterday, and apart from a few glitches (during 
 update outdated) which ran fine
 second time, I now see:
 
 : port version
 Version: 2.1.3
 
 : port list macports
 MacPorts   @2.2.0-beta1sysutils/MacPorts
 
 Why did the beta version get downloaded when I didn't ask for it?  Am I 
 running the beta version or not?
 
 The `list` command (from `man port`) displays a list of the latest version 
 of each port, which does not reflect what's installed.
 

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pkg-config issue

2013-06-13 Thread Adam Dershowitz Ph.D., P.E.
I am trying to upgrade webkit-gtk on a PPC G5 machine.  I have seen a few 
tickets about this, and have been trying a  few things.  
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/35989
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/37839

But, now, I seem to have a new issue.  When I try to upgrade, during the 
configure stage, I get an error in my log that it can't find GLIB = 2.36.0.  I 
confirmed that I have glib2 installed with macports, (2.36.3).  I tried setting 
PKG_CONFIG_PATH and I also I verified that there isn't' an extra pkg-config 
as suggested in the closed ticket:
http://trac.macports.org/ticket/36321

And I also saw this ticket:  http://trac.macports.org/ticket/27392

I then did a force uninstall of glib2 and reinstalled it.  But, webkit-gtk 
upgrade still fails at the glib configure check.  

So, I am not really sure if this is a glib2 issue, a webkit-gtk issue, a 
pkg-config or something else.  

Any suggestions for what might be going on? 

Thanks,

--Adam
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Re: Suggestion

2013-06-13 Thread Jan Stary
On Jun 11 07:53:22, pixi...@macports.org wrote:
 
 On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Jan Stary wrote:
 
  On May 28 21:36:58, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On 28 May 2013, at 08:12 PM, Jean-François Caron jfca...@phas.ubc.ca 
  wrote:
  
  While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that 
  MacPorts very much would benefit from having a discovery mechanism by 
  which users find out about useful ports.  Searching is nice, but it's not 
  discovery.  Some kind of top ports list (however implemented) would be 
  useful, imho.
  
  Personally, I fail to see how a 'top ports' list would tell me much. The 
  ports i find essential are likely very different from others, so i don't 
  see how using some sort of a list showing the most used ports would help 
  me in any way in choosing new ones to install. Some ports likely have a 
  low user base, but never less are critical to those that need them, such 
  as more esoteric ports from the science section.
  
  +1
  
  let's say it turns out people download firefox a lot.
  then what?
 
 Say we need/want to update a port that has many dependents; knowing the 
 install base of the dependents could help us determine the support 
 ramifications of different update approaches.

determine the support ramifications
of different update approaches?
What on Earth are you talking about?

 ie:

You mean e.g.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113161/

 moving apache2 install files to conform to porthier.

What does that mean, speicifically?
Is there a problem with the apache2 port?
Do apache2 install files need to be moved?
Why? Is there a ticket for this?


 Are 10 or 10,000 people likely to hit the MP mailing list
 asking what the bleep happened.

If there is a reason to change a port,
what does it matter how many users does the port have?

(Is this a support ramification of an update approach?)

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Apache2 and PortHier (was Re: Suggestion)

2013-06-13 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
${prefix}/apache2 isn't standard hierarchy.

The gist of it being either we update the hierarchy or we move the files around.

On Jun 13, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Jan Stary wrote:

 moving apache2 install files to conform to porthier.
 
 What does that mean, speicifically?
 Is there a problem with the apache2 port?
 Do apache2 install files need to be moved?
 Why? Is there a ticket for this?

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Macports

2013-06-13 Thread James Guzman
I have installed Macports to try to install the GIMP software. I have installed 
it but now don't know how to use it, uninstall it or even get off of this 
mailing list. Can anyone help me out? 
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Re: Macports

2013-06-13 Thread Lenore Horner

On Jun 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, James Guzman wrote:

 I have installed Macports to try to install the GIMP software. I have 
 installed it but now don't know how to use it,
For GIMP in general, google GIMP tutorials.  However, last I knew GIMP 
installed via MacPorts didn't work well (inaccessible tools in toolboxes), so 
you may want to install the Mac binary from GIMP.
 uninstall
sudo port uninstall gimp
 it or even get off of this mailing list.
Click on the bottom link of any list message to manage your account  - 
including unsubscribing.
 Can anyone help me out? 
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Re: Macports

2013-06-13 Thread James Guzman
I'm sorry I don't know what mac binary is, I also don't know how to do 
commands. I was actually talking about uninstalling Macports, how do I go about 
that?


On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Lenore Horner wrote:

 
 On Jun 13, 2013, at 1:27 PM, James Guzman wrote:
 
 I have installed Macports to try to install the GIMP software. I have 
 installed it but now don't know how to use it,
 For GIMP in general, google GIMP tutorials.  However, last I knew GIMP 
 installed via MacPorts didn't work well (inaccessible tools in toolboxes), so 
 you may want to install the Mac binary from GIMP.
 uninstall
 sudo port uninstall gimp
 it or even get off of this mailing list.
 Click on the bottom link of any list message to manage your account  - 
 including unsubscribing.
 Can anyone help me out? 
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Re: Macports

2013-06-13 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:21 PM, James Guzman jamesguz...@me.com wrote:

 I'm sorry I don't know what mac binary is, I also don't know how to do 
 commands. I was actually talking about uninstalling Macports, how do I go 
 about that?


http://guide.macports.org/chunked/installing.macports.uninstalling.html

vq
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Re: suggestion

2013-06-13 Thread James Linder

On 14/06/2013, at 3:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:

 While download statistics might not be a good system, I do concur that 
 MacPorts very much would benefit from having a discovery mechanism by 
 which users find out about useful ports.  Searching is nice, but it's not 
 discovery.  Some kind of top ports list (however implemented) would be 
 useful, imho.
 
 Personally, I fail to see how a 'top ports' list would tell me much. The 
 ports i find essential are likely very different from others, so i don't 
 see how using some sort of a list showing the most used ports would help 
 me in any way in choosing new ones to install. Some ports likely have a 
 low user base, but never less are critical to those that need them, such 
 as more esoteric ports from the science section.
 
 +1
 
 let's say it turns out people download firefox a lot.
 then what?

I can't fathom this, how bizare, BUT it is the mac paradigsm - what are other 
people doing, is it good, can I have one?
My wife understands.
James
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Re: Macports

2013-06-13 Thread James Linder

On 14/06/2013, at 3:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote:

 I have installed Macports to try to install the GIMP software. I have 
 installed it but now don't know how to use it, uninstall it or even get off 
 of this mailing list. Can anyone help me out?

I use macports lots, I really like it, but (OSX 10.6.8 8M RAM Gimp 2.8.2) I 
really found the macports version of gimp to cause many problems. I have 
installed 
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/29/gimp-is-now-a-self-contained-native-app-for-mac-os-x/

I do not prefer the mac ummm-idiosyncrasy of stealing the menu buttons, which 
this version does (and macports build does not), so I'm biased to the macports 
version but the macports version takes umm 30-60 secs to pass the splash screen 
while scanning plugins, has core-dumped on me and generally runs in a manner 
that make you think about saving your work all the time, not about what you are 
doing.

I have tried a few times to update, clean and rebuild without being satisfied.


James
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Re: pkg-config issue

2013-06-13 Thread Ryan Schmidt

On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:45, Adam Dershowitz Ph.D., P.E. de...@alum.mit.edu 
wrote:

 I am trying to upgrade webkit-gtk on a PPC G5 machine.

 When I try to upgrade, during the configure stage, I get an error in my log 
 that it can't find GLIB = 2.36.0.  I confirmed that I have glib2 installed 
 with macports, (2.36.3).

 Any suggestions for what might be going on? 

It simply doesn't work right now on Leopard (and presumably earlier). Sorry.

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/38891

If anyone knows the solution, please let us know.


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Re: settings for KDE4 applications

2013-06-13 Thread Ian Wadham

On 07/06/2013, at 7:03 AM, Jonathan Stickel wrote:
 Recently someone asked on the list Where is KControl?
 
 https://lists.macosforge.org/pipermail/macports-users/2013-May/032726.html
 
 It was determined that it doesn't exist for KDE4 applications installed via 
 macports, hence it is difficult to adjust settings, e.g. color schemes. I 
 want to share, though, that some control is available via files in 
 
 $HOME/Library/Preferences/KDE/share/config/

Those files, in a Linux installation, are the user's local overrides for 
standard settings
and the user's settings for individual apps (files share/config/appnamerc).  
There are
also some user settings for menus and shortcuts in the files
share/appname/appnameui.rc, e.g. if the user has selected his own keyset for
controlling a game.

Normally those files are updated only by KDE apps and KDE libs.  Updating them 
by
hand is risky and unsupported, but you are welcome to try it.

 especially the file kdeglobals. I have had some success adjusting fonts and 
 time format there:
 
 [General]
 font=Lucida Grande,14,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
snip
 
 However, the ability to set colors eludes me. I have pasted in lines about 
 color from linux machines, and they seem to be ignored. If anyone knows more, 
 please post!

I notice that there is a long list of colors in share/config/colors, but I am 
unable
to see any semantics in it (i.e. what those colors are for).  They could just 
be the
last palette used in KDE's colour-selector widget.

Also each app's main window preferences are encoded in the files
share/config/appnamerc (e.g. last window size and position).  There could
be color information embedded there, but I do not know how.

Cheers, Ian W.

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