Re: OT upgrade
== Phil Dobbin wrote on Wed 8.Aug'12 at 3:39:29 +0100 == James Linder wrote: I'm using snow-leopard and everything works perfectly: gnome-terminal, wireshark, gimp, wget, latex ... After watching the woes unfold here why would I upgrade, what does lion offer that I don't have? (facebook connectivity etc is rather like a lead balloon) I personally am going to stick at Snow Leopard. Apple seem hell bent ( financially, who can blame them) on turning their Mac line of computers into glorified, very expensive iPads. Also, judging by the amount of posts I see here, on the Xcode list, etc, every time there's an upgrade, people spend weeks trying to sort it out get back to semblance of normality so they can continue working. Also I'm fortunate enough not to have to write Mac apps for a living, so SL works fine for me so if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In all honesty, if it wasn't for Mac Ports, I'd probably just stick to Linux have done with it. Cheers, Phil... I haven't had these problems with Lion; but then I bought my macmini with Lion preinstalled rather than upgrading from Snow Leopard. Having said that I do recall problems when I upgraded from Tiger - Leopard - Snow Leopard in one form or another so I'm in no hurry to upgrade. I've got a nice setup on my Lion machine now and don't want broken program headaches as others' are experiencing. I haven't looked at the changes in ML in any detail but I can' imagine i'm missing out on anything too spectacular ATM. My Mac is really just for browsing and as a backup mailserver, most of my UNIX work is done on NetBSD anyway. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: OT upgrade
On 09/08/2012, at 3:00 AM, macports-users-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: I'm using snow-leopard and everything works perfectly: gnome-terminal, wireshark, gimp, wget, latex ... After watching the woes unfold here why would I upgrade, what does lion offer that I don't have? (facebook connectivity etc is rather like a lead balloon) One thing I find extremely useful in Lion is multiple desktops. This was available formerly as areas, but rather half-baked compared to my previous multi-desktop setup on KDE and Linux. On Lion, multi-desktop is much better. I can keep programming, course preparation, personal finance, email and browsing on separate desktops and quickly swipe the trackpad with three fingers to do a switch whenever something comes up (e.g. a phone call where I need to look up some piece of information). Or I can set selected apps in the dock to switch desktops automatically when clicked. Ian thanks for the opinions. Just for the record snow-leopard does multiple desktops IMHO slightly easier than KDE, gnome or lxde and slightly harder than fvwm. In any event they are on par with the best. James ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
OT upgrade
[snip] The reason I suggested manually uninstalling the old Xcode is that that is what I had to do on my system. I migrated to a Lion system from a Snow Leopard system, and Xcode 3.2.6 was migrated over too. Then when I installed Xcode 4.3 via the Mac App Store, it did not automatically uninstall the old Snow Leopard Xcode, even after opening Xcode.app. I even unintentionally opened the old Xcode 3.2.6 app after that, and was confused why Xcode 4 features had gone missing. Certainly curious why the upgrade process behaves differently for different people. Clearly something isn't right. That's why i've resisted the upgrade to Mountain Lion; i've been bitten too often by problems that exist with early versions of new release OS updates on the Mac platform. I'm using snow-leopard and everything works perfectly: gnome-terminal, wireshark, gimp, wget, latex ... After watching the woes unfold here why would I upgrade, what does lion offer that I don't have? (facebook connectivity etc is rather like a lead balloon) Thanks James ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: OT upgrade
On 08/08/2012, at 11:19 AM, James Linder wrote: I'm using snow-leopard and everything works perfectly: gnome-terminal, wireshark, gimp, wget, latex ... After watching the woes unfold here why would I upgrade, what does lion offer that I don't have? (facebook connectivity etc is rather like a lead balloon) One thing I find extremely useful in Lion is multiple desktops. This was available formerly as areas, but rather half-baked compared to my previous multi-desktop setup on KDE and Linux. On Lion, multi-desktop is much better. I can keep programming, course preparation, personal finance, email and browsing on separate desktops and quickly swipe the trackpad with three fingers to do a switch whenever something comes up (e.g. a phone call where I need to look up some piece of information). Or I can set selected apps in the dock to switch desktops automatically when clicked. Now I must go and do a bank transfer, browse some Qt documentation and then resume coding … :-) Cheers, Ian W. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
Re: OT upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Linder wrote: I'm using snow-leopard and everything works perfectly: gnome-terminal, wireshark, gimp, wget, latex ... After watching the woes unfold here why would I upgrade, what does lion offer that I don't have? (facebook connectivity etc is rather like a lead balloon) I personally am going to stick at Snow Leopard. Apple seem hell bent ( financially, who can blame them) on turning their Mac line of computers into glorified, very expensive iPads. Also, judging by the amount of posts I see here, on the Xcode list, etc, every time there's an upgrade, people spend weeks trying to sort it out get back to semblance of normality so they can continue working. Also I'm fortunate enough not to have to write Mac apps for a living, so SL works fine for me so if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In all honesty, if it wasn't for Mac Ports, I'd probably just stick to Linux have done with it. Cheers, Phil... - -- But masters, remember that I am an ass. Though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass. Wm. Shakespeare - Much Ado About Nothing -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: §auto-key-locate cert pka ldap hkp://keys.gnupg.net Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQIdFhAAoJEKuJdOaOnmMJo7oIAJ7fYawmcT02LwjMzZjK84uk FUGUff2+NjH+DtEqqvSq9Wf023maJy9qYknvdVbIt3yoHMWavINOdC4VQefnUDSs MyW+WyMWVzZp+6jVWL5PsJYbEWygCkyGbNS8kdHtvCaUJ0xwH17Vchn+uU+tARUj q5R1gwtAOIWXMWslI20n7Un4bIj12RFb9YEkOad0zdL9asv7aFOnGJCHwpoyxxc5 V8KLDjSr3SfIQIInNL2luEA1vxAqlPyvIffueWE9xPBYQ1D/YcwqyrpXbvccNio8 q3E0KxxWKhNaGMg61HVhWADQuvxZQS8BDTjw6TSg0bqyXzFF0px5CLQXQMntvEA= =EUCr -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macports-users
