Re: Installing Octave on Snow Leo

2018-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 20 January 2018 at 04:24, Uli Wienands wrote: > I am trying to install Octave on OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. > > Running sudo port install octave the first time (after selfupdate) updates a > bunch of already installed deps. It then chokes on installing something > called netpbm. > > Futzing aroun

Re: Installing Octave on Snow Leo

2018-01-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-19, at 9:59 PM, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> >> error: >> >> :info:build Undefined symbols: >> :info:build "_strnlen", referenced from: >> :info:build _main in sldtoppm.o >> :info:build ld: symbol(s) not found >> > > > Not clear - I just installed it without any issue, without

Re: Installing Octave on Snow Leo

2018-01-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-19, at 9:33 PM, Ken Cunningham wrote: > > On 2018-01-19, at 7:24 PM, Uli Wienands wrote: > >> Maybe someone else can tell me what I may do differently? Zipped logfile is >> attached >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Uli >> > > error: > > :info:build Undefined symbols: > :info:buil

Re: Installing Octave on Snow Leo

2018-01-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-19, at 7:24 PM, Uli Wienands wrote: > Maybe someone else can tell me what I may do differently? Zipped logfile is > attached > > Thanks in advance, > > Uli > error: :info:build Undefined symbols: :info:build "_strnlen", referenced from: :info:build _main in sldtoppm.o :in

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 19 14:18:00, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > The point is third party applications (and perhaps even some Apple stuff) is > not well tested on anything other than the defaults. So its far from > impossible for there to be applications that internally are not consistent > with their naming.

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Fri, 19 Jan 2018, Jan Stary wrote: This is MacOS 10.13.2. Is this expected? I see it but I don't believe it. MacOS has a broken filesystem; case is preserved but not honoured i.e. "file" is the same as "FILE" is the same as "FiLe" etc. This plays merry hell with my RSYNC backups to/from

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:41, Clemens Lang wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 03:53:15PM +0100, db wrote: >> But since this is MacPorts, I wonder if anyone has had problems >> specifically with a port not working and crashing. > > Remember that our buildbots use case-sensitive HFS, so we would usuall

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 19, 2018, at 11:46, Franco Vaccari wrote: > Here it is, but I wonder whether such a SSL version requirement is > per-package, because I had no problem in installing a large number of > packages before finding this issue. The people who run the servers that distribute python-related file

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-19, at 11:55 AM, Franco Vaccari wrote: > Hi Ken, > > thanks, will look at that > > Franco FYI: $ sudo port -d fetch py36-decorator DEBUG: Changing to port directory: /opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/tarballs/ports/python/py-decorator DEBUG: OS darwin/10.8

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Franco Vaccari
Hi Ken, thanks, will look at that Franco > On 19 Jan 2018, at 19:52, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > > On 2018-01-19, at 10:41 AM, Christopher Jones wrote: > > >>Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Speed >> 0 00 00 0 0 0 --:--:--

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-19, at 10:41 AM, Christopher Jones wrote: > Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Speed > 0 00 00 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01 --:--:-- > 0DEBUG: Fetching distfile failed: error:1407742E:SSL > routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_H

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 03:53:15PM +0100, db wrote: > But since this is MacPorts, I wonder if anyone has had problems > specifically with a port not working and crashing. Remember that our buildbots use case-sensitive HFS, so we would usually notice if a port fails to build due to case-sensi

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Christopher Jones
Hi, So indeed the issue is ---> Attempting to fetch decorator-4.2.1.tar.gz from https://files.pythonhosted.org/packages/source/d/decorator % Total% Received % Xferd Average Speed TimeTime Time Current Dload Upload Total SpentLeft Spe

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Jan 2018, at 11:09, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: On Jan 19, 2018, at 09:53, db wrote: [...] But since this is MacPorts, I wonder if anyone has had problems specifically with a port not working and crashing. At a mere guess, I'd say there'd be very little of that. Most of the code or

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Cole
On 19 Jan 2018, at 8:44, Jan Stary wrote: On Jan 19 06:48:37, rlha...@smart.net wrote: [...] but for backwards compatibility with macOS's pre-Unix ancestors, Huh. What are those? Not technically "pre-Unix" but rather "pre-MacOS X." MacOS X (i.e. 10.0) was the first version derived from t

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Franco Vaccari
Hi, Here it is, but I wonder whether such a SSL version requirement is per-package, because I had no problem in installing a large number of packages before finding this issue. Thanks for looking into it! Franco debug10.6.8.txt.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data > On 19 Jan 2018, at

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread db
On 19 Jan 2018, at 17:09, "Richard L. Hamilton" wrote: > At a mere guess, I'd say there'd be very little of that. Most of the code > originated on Linux or one of the *BSD's; and most of them would default to > case-sensitive filesystems, even if they had the option. So their code would > be

Re: installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, I think you cut from the list of responses the useful ones. Most probably one of the ones you cut was showing that the connection was rejected due to the use of an insecure SSL version, or similar. Please post the complete log, compressed to save space. cheers Chris On 19/01/18 15:59, F

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 09:53, db wrote: > > On 19 Jan 2018, at 15:23, Vincent Habchi wrote: >> I’ve been working for years on case-sensitive HFS+/APFS file systems (coming >> from BSD Unix) and never encountered any problem. Only PyCharm needs an >> extra configuration line to be inserted. Bu

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Dr M J Carter
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 03:23:11PM +0100, Vincent Habchi wrote: > > The point is third party applications (and perhaps even some Apple > > stuff) is not well tested on anything other than the defaults. So > > its far from impossible for there to be applications that > > internally are not consist

installation failure because can't fetch the file (10.6.8)

2018-01-19 Thread Franco Vaccari
I’m trying to update MacPorts on some old computers running 10.6.8. I decided to go with a fresh installation on a test machine, removing the existing /opt/local, before hopefully do the same on the main server. I successfully installed many of the packages my group use routinely, but with sev

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 08:44, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Jan 19 06:48:37, rlha...@smart.net wrote: >> By default, macOS (like Windows with NTFS filesystem) >> is case-preserving but NOT case-sensitive. >> In other words, names that differ only by case >> refer to the same file. > > That's exactly

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread db
On 19 Jan 2018, at 15:23, Vincent Habchi wrote: > I’ve been working for years on case-sensitive HFS+/APFS file systems (coming > from BSD Unix) and never encountered any problem. Only PyCharm needs an extra > configuration line to be inserted. But that’s the only side effect I ever > stumbled u

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Vincent Habchi
> > The point is third party applications (and perhaps even some Apple stuff) is > not well tested on anything other than the defaults. So its far from > impossible for there to be applications that internally are not consistent > with their naming. I’ve been working for years on case-sensiti

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, What "exception"? "FILE" is "FILE". "file" is "file". Nothing to do with each other. The point is third party applications (and perhaps even some Apple stuff) is not well tested on anything other than the defaults. So its far from impossible for there to be applications that internally

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 19 06:48:37, rlha...@smart.net wrote: > By default, macOS (like Windows with NTFS filesystem) > is case-preserving but NOT case-sensitive. > In other words, names that differ only by case > refer to the same file. That's exactly what I was missing. Thanks. > For a case-preserving but case-

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 05:23, Jan Stary wrote: > > This is of course not MP related; > please kindly point me to the appropriate Apple forum. > > Create a local file: > > user@local$ echo local > /tmp/file > > Prepare a file on a remote machine, > with the "same" name, but uppercase: >

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Jan Stary
> > This is MacOS 10.13.2. Is this expected? > > Yes. > > If you want/need a different behaviour, you should reformat your hard > drive to a case-sensitive file system. Thanks. I always thought it was case sensitive on MacOS too. Jan

Re: scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 19 January 2018 at 11:23, Jan Stary wrote: > This is of course not MP related; > please kindly point me to the appropriate Apple forum. > > Create a local file: > > user@local$ echo local > /tmp/file > > Prepare a file on a remote machine, > with the "same" name, but uppercase: > >

scp ignores case in filenames?

2018-01-19 Thread Jan Stary
This is of course not MP related; please kindly point me to the appropriate Apple forum. Create a local file: user@local$ echo local > /tmp/file Prepare a file on a remote machine, with the "same" name, but uppercase: user@remote$ echo remote > /tmp/FILE Now copy the remote fil

Re: Ethereum

2018-01-19 Thread Bill Hill
On 18/01/2018 18:12, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > Could you report this to the developers of libff so they can fix it? > > https://github.com/scipr-lab/libff/issues Done. https://github.com/scipr-lab/libff/issues/15 -- Red to red, black to black, switch it on, but stand well back.