Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Sorry, I have no idea what standard processes Macports adheres to. Yet, you claimed that because of "audit requirements" MacPorts must distribute patches to any software you install via the port command. >> Please explain what the

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread John Chivian
The maintainers of MacPorts cannot and should not be expected to maintain and fix bugs in projects!  That is the job of the project maintainer, not the team that voluntarily provides ports of the open source software. If you want the ability to audit software control and accountability, so

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:13 PM Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> It's also super-silly to expect that MacPorts is taking "responsibility" > >> for all upstream projects. > > > > How so? > > > > It is a standard audit item. > > please cite what

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> It's also super-silly to expect that MacPorts is taking "responsibility" for >> all upstream projects. > > How so? > > It is a standard audit item. please cite what "standard" you believe you are auditing MacPorts under. Please explain

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:33 PM Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > >>> ... > >>> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> ... >>> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up >>> with the developers of PyObjC. >> >> Macports is

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> ... >> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up >> with the developers of PyObjC. > > Macports is responsible for the code it distributes. It is called >

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > ... > If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up with > the developers of PyObjC. Macports is responsible for the code it distributes. It is called "supply chain management". Jeff

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:15, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > The pull request was accepted by the developers and included in PyObjC 6.2.1, > though I see that it was modified slightly: > > https://github.com/ronaldoussoren/pyobjc/commit/76b4bb2d76d33961821c6cc0d88c7031c62805c2 > > I'm not familiar with

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 10:36, Jeffrey Waltonwrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:59 AM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> >> ... >>> Logical CPU: 2 >>> Error Code: 0x0007 (invalid protections for user data read) >>> Trap Number: 14 >>> ==cut= >>> >>> do you see the

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:59 AM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > ... > > Logical CPU: 2 > > Error Code: 0x0007 (invalid protections for user data read) > > Trap Number: 14 > > ==cut= > > > > do you see the problem? I don't :| > > Fixed! > >

Re: MS Sans Serif font in X11 under macOS

2020-08-24 Thread Christoph Kukulies
I come to the conclusion that it must be a Catalina problem with X11 fonts (directory access rights or something in that direction). When I run the program bsvc locally under macOS (catalina 15.5.6) the application starts and has no font problem at all. It seems to be a problem with the remote

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 03:34, joerg van den hoff wrote: > On 23.08.20 21:45, Joshua Root wrote: >> joerg van den hoff wrote: >>> seen with current macports and >>> >>> Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) >>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin >>>

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Joshua Root
On 2020-8-24 18:34 , joerg van den hoff wrote: > > thanks for this suggestion. I have had a look and cannot make sufficient > sense of it. here is the leading section with the traceback: > do you see the problem? I don't :| Well, I don't know why it's crashing, but it's crashing in _objc.so

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 23.08.20 21:45, Joshua Root wrote: joerg van den hoff wrote: seen with current macports and Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin I get a reproducible bus error when trying to get a list of known modules