Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
on my Lion box, calling LANG= bison ... I suddenly get *German* output! [...] >> >> It's seems to be a new feature of gettext 0.21, which comes with >> improved MacOS support. In the NEWS file I read > > Then you should not be seeing this problem with MacPorts since w

Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2020-02-13 um 23:11 schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >>> I'm not sure whether I like this feature. At least on the command >>> line, I consider it surprising. >> >> There is the opposite expectation: "I have set that I want the >> programs to talk to me in German. Why do I need to specify it a

Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 13, 2020, at 08:40, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> on my Lion box, calling >>> >>> LANG= bison ... >>> >>> I suddenly get *German* output! Ditto for other programs like >>> 'info', 'ggrep', etc., that come with '.po' files. Is this normal? >>> Is this a new gettext feature? > >> On a "no

Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Bruno, thanks for your detailed answer. >> I'm not sure whether I like this feature. At least on the command >> line, I consider it surprising. > > There is the opposite expectation: "I have set that I want the > programs to talk to me in German. Why do I need to specify it a > second

Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[CCing Bruno Haible] >> on my Lion box, calling >> >> LANG= bison ... >> >> I suddenly get *German* output! Ditto for other programs like >> 'info', 'ggrep', etc., that come with '.po' files. Is this normal? >> Is this a new gettext feature? > > I would suppose that without a valid locale LAN

Re: 'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I would suppose that without a valid locale LANG or the LC_* variables, there would be some other default - that it's not randomly picking a locale. On a "normal" Unix/Linux system, I would expect "C" locale (or perhaps a system setting) to be that default. But Macs are a bit odd; their native

'LANG=' produces German output

2020-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[macports-ports 83eb0fba14b88745b29c0efa5d29aa73ee69c04b from 2020-02-12] Folks, on my Lion box, calling LANG= bison ... I suddenly get *German* output! Ditto for other programs like 'info', 'ggrep', etc., that come with '.po' files. Is this normal? Is this a new gettext feature?