Re: Login shell

2020-05-10 Thread Ken Cunningham
> I'd be interested in any experience running Linux software directly on macOS, > without installing Linux. your best bet is to see what you'd like, and see if someone has made it work on macports; there is a lot, really. the very latest Apache2 runs on everything back to Tiger PPC for

Re: Login shell

2020-05-10 Thread Dmitri Zaitsev
Is this the post you are referring to? https://lists.macports.org/pipermail/macports-users/2020-April/048223.html When I tried Ubuntu on Mac Pro, I couldn't get any sound and trying to look for help online it felt like another rabbit hole to jump in :( Old problems solved, new ones created :( I

Re: Login shell

2020-05-09 Thread Ken Cunningham
If you look back a few days earlier in this list, you'll see my experiences in installing Ubuntu on older MacOS hardware -- I just went through the process and documented it there -- and there are various resources on the web that weren't too hard to find. I'm typing this on Ubuntu running on

Re: Login shell

2020-05-09 Thread Dmitri Zaitsev
I would be very interested to learn how to avoid the insecure MacOS software replacing it with that from Linux land. Any good source to read about it? On Sun, May 10, 2020, 07:47 Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On May 7, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Ken Cunningham < > ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>

Re: Login shell

2020-05-09 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 7, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> there are large closed-source surface areas that you aren't going to be able >> to keep updated. > > You have said that before, and I listened, but: > > all my systems live behind a firewall, and none are exposed to the open web. > I don’t

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread raf
Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > Or see https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050 > which describes the new behavior, and > how to use Users and Groups to change the default shell, or how to use > Terminal preferences to use bash by default from Terminal (only,

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Ken Cunningham
> there are large closed-source surface areas that you aren't going to be able > to keep updated. You have said that before, and I listened, but: all my systems live behind a firewall, and none are exposed to the open web. I don’t use any MacOS-era software to access anything outside the

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 7, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Bill Cole wrote: > That looks like my ugly hack. I came up with it shortly after the disclosure > of the "ShellShock" vulnerability. > > The reason to do this when replacing a login shell or (most importantly) the > system shell at /bin/s

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Bill Cole
com/kencu/myports/tree/master/shells/bash> That looks like my ugly hack. I came up with it shortly after the disclosure of the "ShellShock" vulnerability. The reason to do this when replacing a login shell or (most importantly) the system shell at /bin/sh is that you do not want

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Ken Cunningham
I replace the system bash on older systems with the MP version, esp on Tiger. There was a nice trick presented on the mailing list a year or two ago by someone to use static libs to make it less fragile, so I use that:

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
2020, at 11:40, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On May 7, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> >> I don’t know if that belongs into macports, but I believe a lot of problems >> (I currently have) with PATHs may be, that Catalina (?) changed the login >&g

Re: Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On May 7, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > I don’t know if that belongs into macports, but I believe a lot of problems > (I currently have) with PATHs may be, that Catalina (?) changed the login > shell from sh (bash) to zsh (or am I wrong with this)? > >

Login shell

2020-05-07 Thread Christoph Kukulies
I don’t know if that belongs into macports, but I believe a lot of problems (I currently have) with PATHs may be, that Catalina (?) changed the login shell from sh (bash) to zsh (or am I wrong with this)? Where do I change the users’ lofin shell. Unixwise I would say in /etc/passwd, but I