Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-15 Thread Murray Eisenberg

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 22:07:16 +0100, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote:

 On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
 I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima 
 works (so far) as expected.
 good.
 
 When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows ? 
 Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the 
 highlighted lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears in 
 the Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output 
 appear in the Xmaxima:console window as well.
 Yes, that's intentional.
 The browser just shows you a section from the manual, which you're advised to 
 click through to show off some of maxima's and xmaxima's features.
 
 But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
 Shouldn?t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of one?s 
 own (instead of just evaluate what?s in the prepared html page showing in 
 the Xmaxima:browser window?
 You should be able to enter your own lines in the console.
 If not, which Mac OS version are you using?
 Here on my SL it works seamlessly.
 
 Greets,
 Marko
 
 P.S.: Perhaps you would like to install wxMaxima and try that too.

The port upgrade to tk @8.6.1_1 (x11) seems to have fixe the problem with 
maxima. 

Still, wxMaxima may be a nicer environment.

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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-14 Thread Murray Eisenberg

On 13 Nov 2013 19:59:59 -0800, Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:

 In article fb588327-e6bd-4107-b65b-2de86735b...@gmail.com,
 Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OS is Mavericks.
 
 Will try wxMaxima.
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:07 PM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote:
 
 Hi Murray,
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
 I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima 
 works (so far) as expected.
 good.
 
 When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows ? 
 Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the 
 highlighted lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears 
 in the Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output 
 appear in the Xmaxima:console window as well.
 Yes, that's intentional.
 The browser just shows you a section from the manual, which you're advised 
 to click through to show off some of maxima's and xmaxima's features.
 
 But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
 Shouldn?t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of 
 one?s own (instead of just evaluate what?s in the prepared html page 
 showing in the Xmaxima:browser window?
 You should be able to enter your own lines in the console.
 If not, which Mac OS version are you using?
 Here on my SL it works seamlessly.
 
 Greets,
 Marko
 
 P.S.: Perhaps you would like to install wxMaxima and try that too.
 
 If the problem is seen using the quartz (native) Tk on Mavericks, it's very 
 likely you are running into a critical Tk problem on Mavericks.  There is a 
 simple patch available that fixes the problem.
 
 https://trac.macports.org/ticket/41278

How do I tell which Tk is being used??

As to the Tk patch referenced in the cited ticket, how does one use it?

(I’ve installed XQuartz just updated to 2.7.5. Is that relevant?)

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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-14 Thread Ned Deily
In article 0fee59a6-86ed-4335-80d7-d2f954c21...@gmail.com,
 Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do I tell which Tk is being used??

$ port info tk
tk @8.6.1 (x11)
Variants: [+]quartz, (+)universal, (-)x11

In this case, the quartz (native) variant is selected, not the x11 one.
 
 As to the Tk patch referenced in the cited ticket, how does one use it?

Ideally, the MacPorts maintainer for Tk should create an appropriate patch and 
update the port file.

 (I¹ve installed XQuartz just updated to 2.7.5. Is that relevant?)

Only if you are using the x11 variant of tk in which case the patch isn't 
going to help.

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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-14 Thread Ned Deily
In article nad-c23215.13265314112...@news.gmane.org,
 Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
 In article 0fee59a6-86ed-4335-80d7-d2f954c21...@gmail.com,
  Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com wrote:
  How do I tell which Tk is being used??
 
 $ port info tk
 tk @8.6.1 (x11)
 Variants: [+]quartz, (+)universal, (-)x11
 
 In this case, the quartz (native) variant is selected, not the x11 one.
  
  As to the Tk patch referenced in the cited ticket, how does one use it?
 
 Ideally, the MacPorts maintainer for Tk should create an appropriate patch 
 and 
 update the port file.

Update: I see that the Tk port has just been updated with the patch for the 
Mavericks refresh problem. 

sudo port selfupdate
sudo port upgrade tk

Thanks, Ryan!

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maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-13 Thread Murray Eisenberg
I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima works 
(so far) as expected.

When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows — 
Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the highlighted 
lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears in the 
Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output appear in 
the Xmaxima:console window as well.

But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
Shouldn’t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of one’s own 
(instead of just evaluate what’s in the prepared html page showing in the 
Xmaxima:browser window?

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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-13 Thread MK-MacPorts
Hi Murray,

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
 I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima 
 works (so far) as expected.
good.

 When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows — 
 Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the 
 highlighted lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears in 
 the Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output 
 appear in the Xmaxima:console window as well.
Yes, that's intentional.
The browser just shows you a section from the manual, which you're advised to 
click through to show off some of maxima's and xmaxima's features.

 But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
 Shouldn’t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of one’s 
 own (instead of just evaluate what’s in the prepared html page showing in the 
 Xmaxima:browser window?
You should be able to enter your own lines in the console.
If not, which Mac OS version are you using?
Here on my SL it works seamlessly.

Greets,
Marko

P.S.: Perhaps you would like to install wxMaxima and try that too.
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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-13 Thread Murray Eisenberg
OS is Mavericks.

Will try wxMaxima.

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:07 PM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote:

 Hi Murray,
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
 I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima 
 works (so far) as expected.
 good.
 
 When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows — 
 Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the 
 highlighted lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears in 
 the Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output 
 appear in the Xmaxima:console window as well.
 Yes, that's intentional.
 The browser just shows you a section from the manual, which you're advised to 
 click through to show off some of maxima's and xmaxima's features.
 
 But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
 Shouldn’t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of one’s 
 own (instead of just evaluate what’s in the prepared html page showing in 
 the Xmaxima:browser window?
 You should be able to enter your own lines in the console.
 If not, which Mac OS version are you using?
 Here on my SL it works seamlessly.
 
 Greets,
 Marko
 
 P.S.: Perhaps you would like to install wxMaxima and try that too.

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Re: maxima+xmaxima: can't type into Console

2013-11-13 Thread Ned Deily
In article fb588327-e6bd-4107-b65b-2de86735b...@gmail.com,
 Murray Eisenberg murrayeisenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 OS is Mavericks.
 
 Will try wxMaxima.
 
 On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:07 PM, mk-macpo...@techno.ms wrote:
 
  Hi Murray,
  
  On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
  I installed maxima @5.30.0_0+xmaxima. By itself, the command-line maxima 
  works (so far) as expected.
  good.
  
  When, instead, I start xmaxima from the command-line, I get two windows ‹ 
  Xmaxima: browser and Xmaxima: console. If I double-click one of the 
  highlighted lines in the Xmaxima: browser window, then the output appears 
  in the Xmaxima:browser window, and both the input and corresponding output 
  appear in the Xmaxima:console window as well.
  Yes, that's intentional.
  The browser just shows you a section from the manual, which you're advised 
  to click through to show off some of maxima's and xmaxima's features.
  
  But I cannot type any input directly into the Xmaxima: console window. 
  Shouldn¹t I be able to do so? And, if not, how can one enter input of 
  one¹s own (instead of just evaluate what¹s in the prepared html page 
  showing in the Xmaxima:browser window?
  You should be able to enter your own lines in the console.
  If not, which Mac OS version are you using?
  Here on my SL it works seamlessly.
  
  Greets,
  Marko
  
  P.S.: Perhaps you would like to install wxMaxima and try that too.

If the problem is seen using the quartz (native) Tk on Mavericks, it's very 
likely you are running into a critical Tk problem on Mavericks.  There is a 
simple patch available that fixes the problem.

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/41278

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 n...@acm.org

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