Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 27, 2022, at 13:06, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > (although I think Apple provides the servers) Apple provided the servers from late 2006 [1] (when our first home OpenDarwin closed its doors) until late 2016 [2] (when Apple's macOS forge service shut down). Since then, we have used

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
MacPorts is by nature not just one thing. There's the "port" command, related commands, the structure of Portfiles; there's the servers that deliver up both pre-built executables AND whether for lack of capacity to pre-build or because certain ports need to be locally built, may also deliver

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-27 Thread Michele Venturi
That's what I said and anyway I repeat for the nth time to people that doesn't want to know it: it's YOUR stuff, YOU should know what it is, I'm not here to tell you what to do you with it, this just a friendly reminder to decide... Il dom 27 mar 2022, 01:42 Ryan Schmidt ha scritto: > On Mar

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-26 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 26, 2022, at 00:48, Michele Venturi wrote: > As usual this project too is a mess because everyone has a different idea of > what it is,has been and will be. If you have constructive criticism for changes that should be made, feel free to start discussions about them. Otherwise you may

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-25 Thread Michele Venturi
As usual this project too is a mess because everyone has a different idea of what it is,has been and will be. Il gio 24 mar 2022, 02:55 Ryan Schmidt ha scritto: > On Mar 23, 2022, at 08:48, Michele Venturi wrote: > > > If MacPorts is not a package manager we need one, > > I'd say HomeBrew could

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-23 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 23, 2022, at 08:48, Michele Venturi wrote: > If MacPorts is not a package manager we need one, > I'd say HomeBrew could be the right tool for the job. I'm not sure what these remarks are in regards to, but MacPorts was started in 2002 a ports collection [1] based conceptually on FreeBSD

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-23 Thread chilli.names...@gmail.com
MacPorts is, by a long margin, the best package manager for macOS and Mac OS X before it. Homebrew is more like a cult than a package manager, and it has always been redundant and inferior to MacPorts. It is inferior due to the way it botches permissions, and specifically the way it creates

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-23 Thread Michele Venturi
My problem is that "MacPorts is not (just) 'a simple package manager'. " Il mer 23 mar 2022, 21:11 Dave Horsfall ha scritto: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2022, Michele Venturi wrote: > > > If MacPorts is not a package manager we need one,I'd say HomeBrew could > > be the right tool for the job. > > I find

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-23 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Wed, 23 Mar 2022, Michele Venturi wrote: > If MacPorts is not a package manager we need one,I'd say HomeBrew could > be the right tool for the job. I find that MacPorts is a most excellent package manager; what exactly is your problem? -- Dave

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-23 Thread Michele Venturi
If MacPorts is not a package manager we need one, I'd say HomeBrew could be the right tool for the job. Il lun 14 mar 2022, 18:02 Ryan Schmidt ha scritto: > On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:40, James Secan wrote: > > > It is a macOS alias. I use soft links a lot, but only for items that > I’m accessing

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-14 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 14, 2022, at 10:40, James Secan wrote: > It is a macOS alias. I use soft links a lot, but only for items that I’m > accessing when working in a Unix shell. MacPorts should be able to use your Xcode wherever it is, provided that `xcode-select -p` shows its path or the path of a symlink

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-14 Thread James Secan
It is a macOS alias. I use soft links a lot, but only for items that I’m accessing when working in a Unix shell. Jim 3222 NE 89th St Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 430-0109 > On Mar 13, 2022, at 1:46 PM, xpl...@wak.co.nz wrote: > > I forgot to ad, the reason, at a unix level, the Finder alias just

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-13 Thread xplora
I forgot to ad, the reason, at a unix level, the Finder alias just just another boring file, not the intended alias. This is similar to how Windows shortcuts look on Macs, where they come through as a .lnk file that the Mac doesn’t understand. -- Richard Smith xpl...@wak.co.nz > On

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-13 Thread xplora
Is it a Mac Alias, or a unix ln ? (i.e. the former is created with a drag-n-drop of the App holding down the Command & Option keys, while the former is created with the command ln -s /path/to/app lnfile, and that is a lowercase L, not an uppercase i). MacPorts will work better with the latter

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-13 Thread James Secan
I do have the full Xcode package installed (8.2.1) on the El Capitan system, although I have it as an alias in the Applications directory (on a smallish SSD) linking to the actual Xcode files on an internal HD because it requires a lot of disk real estate and I never use Xcode. Would that

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 12, 2022, at 21:57, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > Is there a way one can see by examining Portfiles (ideally something that > could be scanned for with e.g. a perl script), or preferably, with some > "port" command, which ports require command line tools vs Xcode vs neither > (albeit

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Is there a way one can see by examining Portfiles (ideally something that could be scanned for with e.g. a perl script), or preferably, with some "port" command, which ports require command line tools vs Xcode vs neither (albeit perhaps needing something to get a compiler port installed)? > On

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 11, 2022, at 02:02, Michele Venturi wrote: > What is wrong is that a simple package manager > requires an entire multigigabyte professional IDE; > I have even taken the time to talk to them about it > and file a bug about it,but they clearly don't care... > It's surely not a new issue,it's

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 10, 2022, at 18:40, James Secan wrote: > In working my way through my recent “phantom ports” issue I ran the command > “port diagnose” and was more than a bit surprised by the output line: > > Error: currently installed version of Xcode, none, is not supported by > MacPorts. > >

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-11 Thread Joshua Root
I truly appreciate everyone who maintains things for MP - couldn’t live without this stuff. My initial query was just trying to understand whether ‘port diagnose’ was telling me something I should be concerned about. I think the answer was ‘no’. The message could be improved for that case,

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-11 Thread James Secan
I truly appreciate everyone who maintains things for MP - couldn’t live without this stuff. My initial query was just trying to understand whether ‘port diagnose’ was telling me something I should be concerned about. I think the answer was ‘no’. Jim 3222 NE 89th St Seattle, WA 98115 (206)

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-11 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, Chris Jones wrote: > MacPorts is not (just) 'a simple package manager'. Yes, it performs this > function, but first and foremost (and long before we even had binary > tarballs to distribute as a 'package mnager') it is a system for > building packages and their

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-11 Thread Chris Jones
On 11/03/2022 8:02 am, Michele Venturi wrote: What is wrong is that a simple package manager requires an entire multigigabyte professional IDE; I have even taken the time to talk to them about it and file a bug about it,but they clearly don't care... It's surely not a new issue,it's like that

Re: port diagnose and xcode

2022-03-11 Thread Michele Venturi
What is wrong is that a simple package manager requires an entire multigigabyte professional IDE; I have even taken the time to talk to them about it and file a bug about it,but they clearly don't care... It's surely not a new issue,it's like that by design... Il ven 11 mar 2022, 01:40 James