Re: [MacRuby-devel] testing macruby/hotcocoa apps

I second the idea also. Tools like Squish have their place, but as a solo/hobbyist developer, I'd much rather put some faith in Apple's efforts to test that scrollbars scroll properly, buttons dispatch to actions, etc. and focus on how *my* code constructs views, binds data and generally assert tha

Re: [MacRuby-devel] testing macruby/hotcocoa apps

On May 11, 2009, at May 11, 11:18 PM, Matt Aimonetti wrote: Before I get too excited, I'd like to hear what you guys think and what you believe you need to write better code? I love the concept, but have often found UI testing tools to be lacking. I think that's because in the past I was al

[MacRuby-devel] Key-value observing

Hello, I've been learning Cocoa, Objective-C and macruby in tandem and I was just wondering, are there any plans to integrate the key-value observing protocol with the attr_accessor family of methods? With a little experimentation, I found KVO is definitely possible with macruby, but the syntax is

Re: [MacRuby-devel] testing macruby/hotcocoa apps

I think it's prudent to make UI testing as much like unit testing as possible. Tools and tests that poke at the GUI from "outside" are notoriously fragile. I gave a talk at Mountain West RubyConf on using TDD for user interfaces (using RubyCocoa, but the idea is the same for MacRuby).

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

#54: build on Leopard fails on readline -+-- Reporter: edaroc...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

#54: build on Leopard fails on readline -+-- Reporter: edaroc...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

Re: [MacRuby-devel] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

Oh hey, thanks for pointing me to it again. There's nothing wrong with that article I failed at properly looking at the article. I think the layout instantly reminded me of an article which suggested installing ruby into /usr which a lot of people did and consequently broke their installati

[MacRuby-devel] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

Hi, I couldn't build MacRuby and gave up, until I saw this post. I've followed both the Tiger and Leopard version of that article. Can you briefly explain what's wrong with that article or with readline? Thanks. On May 12, 2009, at 12:56 AM, macruby-devel- requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

#54: build on Leopard fails on readline -+-- Reporter: edaroc...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

#54: build on Leopard fails on readline -+-- Reporter: edaroc...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

Re: [MacRuby-devel] [MacRuby] #54: build on Leopard fails on readline

#54: build on Leopard fails on readline -+-- Reporter: edaroc...@… |Owner: lsansone...@… Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: blocker |

Re: [MacRuby-devel] testing macruby/hotcocoa apps

Hi Matt, Testing is indeed an area I find interesting. But it's not so much that I like testing itself, but rather the results that one can achieve with it. Be it fixing bugs or rigorously refactoring. Real UI testing, like Squish does, is very cumbersome imo, maybe that's why that testin