Re: [MacRuby-devel] The Future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Francis Chong
Compare with ActiveRecord/DataMapper, i really have no love on Core Data. If MacRuby could run all those ActiveRecord/DataMapper adapters, there are few reason to use a Core Data wrapper (much like ruby dev will not ever normally use mysql/postgres gem directly). Certainly if such wrapper follo

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The Future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Thomas-Arnold
tl;dr: I propose getting tutorials and code under one structured collection, and to create classes that wrap Core Data in the same way HotCocoa wraps NSViews. I agree with the sentiments about "setting ourselves apart". How do we do that? Please allow me to pontificate. I apologize for the length.

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Francis Chong
While i totally agree the points here, a more pressing need, IMHO, is fixing bugs and incompatibility of MacRuby such that what works on other implementation just works in MacRuby, For instance, require_relative is not implemented which breaks a lot of 1.9 ruby code. (http://www.macruby.org/tra

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Andy Park
On 6 Apr 2012, at 00:06, Matt Aimonetti wrote: > Many of you have been wondering what is going on with the MacRuby project > given the lack of up-to-date releases and overall communication. > I feel we owe you some explanation. > Matt, as someone trying to ship a product based on MacRuby, I'd

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The Future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Henry Maddocks
On 7/04/2012, at 11:24 PM, Francis Chong wrote: > Automatic Reference Counting implements automatic memory management for > Objective-C objects and blocks. If you read MacRuby source code, you will > found that the VM is not even written in Objective-C! This is why a one page description of h

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Matt Aimonetti
01:36 +0200 >> From: Eloy Duran >> To: "MacRuby development discussions." >> >> Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >>> Can you import before

Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby

2012-04-08 Thread Jake Smith
: Re: [MacRuby-devel] The future of MacRuby > Message-ID: (mailto:d10916e5-8078-4c70-87df-9b05e593f...@gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > > Can you import before it's open? I just assumed it wasn't accessible at all > > unt