Re: [MacRuby-devel] Advice for Total Tyro

2011-10-17 Thread Bryan Harrison
Those are all interesting and useful points and I appreciate everyone's willing to respond at length. As always, I wonder why extraordinary generosity isn't part of the geek stereotype. Since I'm interested in developing for both OS X and iOS, "no Ruby on iOS" is the clincher. And given that

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Advice for Total Tyro

2011-10-16 Thread Bryan Harrison
Igor, That's terrific… Thanks. -B On Oct 16, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Igor Evsukov wrote: > Hi Bryan, > > All Cocoa API's are written in C/Objective-C and even now, when we can write > apps in Ruby You still need to now them at least to be able to read > documentation. > >> Does Xcode treat Ru

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Advice for Total Tyro

2011-10-16 Thread Bryan Harrison
wn and also have some idea how both ways > work. > > Using that approach I've been able to get by with relatively little actual > coding in Obj-c, but I've still needed to learn a working knowledge of it. > > Hope that helps, > Alex > > On 16 Oct 2011, at 01

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Advice for Total Tyro

2011-10-16 Thread Bryan Harrison
Thanks - that's helpful. You've confirmed a lot of what I suspected, and saved me some time and distraction. Regards, Bryan On Oct 15, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Elliot Temple wrote: > > On Oct 15, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Bryan Harrison wrote: > >> Older & Wisers:

[MacRuby-devel] Advice for Total Tyro

2011-10-15 Thread Bryan Harrison
Older & Wisers: Having done enough web development, network design, and systems administration for one lifetime, I've decided this winter is a fine time to leave all that behind and become an applications developer. Wanting to make consumer products and having no interest in Windows, most of t

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Noob Learning with Xcode 4 and 10.6 SDK

2011-04-04 Thread Bryan Harrison
Tim, I'm about where you are, though I've decided to swat up both MacRuby and O-C, and am starting with O-C. I've pretty much puzzled my way through the Xcode 3 vs 4 changes, and would be happy to exchange chat addresses if you'd like to be able to fire off the occasional WTF? -Bryan On Apr

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Renaming the MacRuby project

2011-04-03 Thread Bryan Harrison
What, no iRuby? On Apr 3, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Ben Rimmington wrote: > I'm an iOS developer, and I haven't tried MacRuby yet, but it appears to be a > good alternative to Objective-C. > > Assuming that MacRuby will be used on iOS devices in the future, perhaps the > framework (and project) sho

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-31 Thread Bryan Harrison
Forgive me for not saying "thanks" individually, but you've all been so generous with your time and thoughts that doing so would clutter up the list. ;) If anyone's curious, my immediate reaction is that I'll learn both, starting by devoting a week to each just to get a feel and figure out whi

[MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Bryan Harrison
I've decided to use an upcoming sabbatical to teach myself OS X and iOS programming. My background includes OS X systems administration and web development, mostly using the Apache/MySQL/PHP model. I'm familiar with OOP concepts and have trifled with any number of languages from C to AppleScri