I got my RubyMotion last week when 2.0 came out really hope they will continue building it for long time. By now I'm really enjoying it
-- yasha0x80 Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig) On Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:00 PM, macruby-devel-requ...@lists.macosforge.org wrote: > Send MacRuby-devel mailing list submissions to > macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org (mailto:macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/macruby-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > macruby-devel-requ...@lists.macosforge.org > (mailto:macruby-devel-requ...@lists.macosforge.org) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > macruby-devel-ow...@lists.macosforge.org > (mailto:macruby-devel-ow...@lists.macosforge.org) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of MacRuby-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future... (Andy Stechishin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 12:51:45 -0600 > From: Andy Stechishin <andy.stechis...@gmail.com > (mailto:andy.stechis...@gmail.com)> > To: "MacRuby development discussions." > <macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org > (mailto:macruby-devel@lists.macosforge.org)> > Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] OS X10.9 & MacRuby's future... > Message-ID: > <cak_edjwuuacm4w9+axjcoz-b4vg5ymmq2ymyxwet0a7yuxy...@mail.gmail.com > (mailto:cak_edjwuuacm4w9+axjcoz-b4vg5ymmq2ymyxwet0a7yuxy...@mail.gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > @Shaun: I think RubyMotion 2 is that offering. > > @Mark: Well said. I dabbled in MacRuby and thought it would be great if > 'they' could get something going for IOS. MY first thought when RubyMotion > came out was I needed to buy a license to support HipByte, I have never > regretted this and bought my extension last week. The paradigm for > RubyMotion has been to step outside the Apple Toolchain to allow developers > to produce applications with ease. I am pleased to see this continue in the > Cocoa application space. And, the community is almost worth the price of > admission alone. :) Heck, I am already giving Apple a hundred bucks a year, > so giving Laurent another hundred to actually build in a language I like > isn't that much more. > > Andy Stechishin (lurker) > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Shaun August <saug...@me.com > (mailto:saug...@me.com)> wrote: > > > I would like to see Laurent and Hipbyte offer a paid version of MacRuby > > with the same pricing structure as RubyMotion. I'd buy it... > > > > -- > > Shaun > > > > > > On Thursday, 16 May, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Mark Villacampa wrote: > > > > I'm a longtime RubyMotion user, and MacRuby user before that. I want to > > share my view as to what is the current status of MacRuby and what can > > happen in the future. > > > > The momentum around MacRuby has been inexistent for almost a year and a > > half. That is, since Laurent Sansonetti (the original creator of MacRuby) > > left Apple, and that left the project without maintainers who were being > > paid to work on it. Only Watson and a couple other maintainers have been > > doing maintenance work and fixing a couple of bugs. > > > > Since nobody is being paid to maintain it, and (AFAIK) there is no > > company/individual whose main/critical systems depended on MacRuby, nobody > > has taken over the project. This is pretty much a chicken-egg situation. > > > > That said, a year ago, Laurent launched RubyMotion, a product based on > > MacRuby which introduces many new features, such as an ARC based memory > > model, and iOS support (dropping OSX support). Just a few days ago, in the > > first anniversary of RubyMotion, they introduced OSX support. > > > > Rubymotion is not open source, and the license costs 200$, plus an annual > > renewal fee of 99$. Two reasons that people sometimes argue for not > > investing in RM are: > > > > - "It's closed source, it might disappear at any moment": Actually, > > RubyMotion is probably more likely to stay in the long term than MacRuby > > was at the beginning. Despite Apple being a huge company, MacRuby was kind > > of an experiment that they could kill at any moment. For HipByte (the > > company behind Rubymotion), Rubymotion is its main product and the one that > > pays its employees. They are way more interested in watching RM succeed > > than Apple was in watching MacRuby succeed. > > > > - "It's too expensive": for playing around or releasing a pet project or > > free app that is not one of your ways of income, that might be the case. > > However, for a company or individual that wants to develop a product from > > which they hope to get some revenue, that price is ridiculous. I've seen > > PHP libraries for creating web forms more expensive than RubyMotion > > (nothing against those libraries). We're talking about a static compiler > > and a whole toolchain for developing iOS apps. If you're a student and want > > to play around with RubyMotion, there is a student discount available (send > > them an email for more information). > > > > So my conclusion is: If you want to develop OSX applications and you liked > > MacRuby, invest in getting a RubyMotion license, you probably won't be > > disappointed. > > > > Mark. > > > > On Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Christopher S Martin wrote: > > > > They recently added support for OS X to rubymotion: > > http://blog.rubymotion.com/post/49943751398/rubymotion-goes-2-0-and-gets-os-x-support-templates > > That said, since rubymotion is (I believe) based off of macruby with some > > additions specifically around static compilation of apps, I don't know if > > the issues around GC/ARC would be any better in rubymotion on OS X, as I've > > only used it for iOS. > > > > > > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jeff Dyck <fsjj...@gmail.com > > (mailto:fsjj...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > Just wanted to add a ditto to this - I'm looking at migrating some old > > AppleScript Studio projects to MacRuby - my initial testing about a year > > ago was great, but it seems the stability of MacRuby as a development > > platform is in question to me at least... I've already been abandoned by > > AppleScript Studio, don't really want to have to go through relearning a > > new language and migrating projects a third time. > > > > I'm seeing a few comments on RubyMotion - does that work for developing OS > > X projects as well? I was under the impression that was for iOS only, but > > I can't say I've looked into it much. > > > > Jeff > > > > On May 16, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Michael Shantzis <mich...@shantzis.com > > (mailto:mich...@shantzis.com)> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello all (and especially Carolyn), > > > > > > I just want to say that I have the same question, specifically regarding > > the > > > GC/ARC issue. > > > > > > The context in which this came up was very revealing. I had been > > developing a > > > fairly complex Cocoa project (ARC enabled) and decided that I had to add > > > > some tests. > > > Using MacRuby seemed like the natural solution. I quickly noticed, > > > > though, that I > > > couldn't. > > > > > > Is there still any momentum behind MacRuby? Is there any solution to > > the issue > > > of mixing it with ARC? I really hope the answer to these two questions > > > > is "yes." > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Michael Shantzis > > > > > > > > > On May 16, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Carolyn Ann Grant < > > carolyn.ann.gr...@gmail.com (mailto:carolyn.ann.gr...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, I've got a question about the future of MacRuby. I like it, and > > have started working on a project or two using it, but I've been reading > > about GC and ARC, Ruby 2.0, RubyMotion and so on, and wonder where MacRuby > > is going? I'm quite concerned because I've put a good amount of time into > > my MacRuby projects. > > > > > > > > I wish I had the knowledge and skill to help with MacRuby - I really do > > like it! - but unfortunately I don't. I also don't want to invest a lot of > > further time in MacRuby if it's not going anywhere. (And I really can't > > spare the $200 it would take to buy RubyMotion.) > > > > > > > > I know this comes across as a bit impertinent, but I really would like > > to know what's happening with MacRuby development. 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