Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-30 Thread Matt Aimonetti
Thanks Charles for clarifying the situation :) For once, I'm glad to see I was wrong. - Matt On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter < charles.nut...@sun.com> wrote: > Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > >> Matt Aimonetti wrote: >> >>> Hi Charlie, >>> >>> I don't think/hope you do it

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-30 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: Matt Aimonetti wrote: Hi Charlie, I don't think/hope you do it on purpose, but it seems that you're asking questions just to prove that Laurent is wrong and that whatever he will do will end up slowing down the current experimental branch. I think you're misint

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-30 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Matt Aimonetti wrote: Hi Charlie, I don't think/hope you do it on purpose, but it seems that you're asking questions just to prove that Laurent is wrong and that whatever he will do will end up slowing down the current experimental branch. I think you're misinterpreting me. I'd love for Lau

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-29 Thread Matt Aimonetti
Hi Charlie, I don't think/hope you do it on purpose, but it seems that you're asking questions just to prove that Laurent is wrong and that whatever he will do will end up slowing down the current experimental branch. I understand that you are upset about Antonio Cangiano's blog post with early

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-29 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Laurent Sansonetti wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to provide a way to turn off optimizations and I do not see the point in benchmarking dead code in general (I would never do this). I think it's actually very useful to provide a way to turn off specific optimizations, if only because t

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-29 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
So, I think there are 2 things to do in order to achieve that goal: 1) making MacRuby an OSA component, so that it's recognized by the system (osalang, Script Edit, etc.). I have no idea on how to implement this. If you're willing to check it out, the documentation is there: http://dev

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-29 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: Laurent Sansonetti wrote: It's possible by modifying the source code and comment the call to createInstructionCombiningPass() and createCFGSimplificationPass(), but I do not recommend to remove these because I think it would break

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Laurent Sansonetti wrote: It's possible by modifying the source code and comment the call to createInstructionCombiningPass() and createCFGSimplificationPass(), but I do not recommend to remove these because I think it would break the way we compile Dwarf exception handlers in blocks. # In my

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Hi Charles, On Mar 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: Laurent Sansonetti wrote: Hi guys, As some of you already noticed we have been working on a branch for a few weeks and I thought it's now time to describe what has been done and were we are going exactly. Very cool stu

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Laurent Sansonetti wrote: Hi guys, As some of you already noticed we have been working on a branch for a few weeks and I thought it's now time to describe what has been done and were we are going exactly. Very cool stuff...some low-level benchmarks seem to have really excellent performance.

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Richard Kilmer
This is awesome new Laurent! You have done amazing work to get this far and I know you will get it all the way. Also Eloy and Vincent helped a lot with both the VM and specs and tests. Thanks to all of you! Do you have any plans for enlisting specific support you need to move things al

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Jordan Breeding
Well if you offer guidance and the target for 0.5 really is just "this year" then I might be able to give it a shot and help out. Of course that also depends on whether I get a job immediately after graduation in August and how busy that keeps me. On Mar 28, 2009, at 14:56, Laurent Sansonet

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Most likely 0.6, unless someone volunteers to do it now :-) Laurent On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Jordan Breeding wrote: Will OSA support be a 0.5 or a 0.6 task? On Mar 28, 2009, at 14:37, Laurent Sansonetti wrote: Hi guys, As some of you already noticed we have been working on a branc

Re: [MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Jordan Breeding
Will OSA support be a 0.5 or a 0.6 task? On Mar 28, 2009, at 14:37, Laurent Sansonetti wrote: Hi guys, As some of you already noticed we have been working on a branch for a few weeks and I thought it's now time to describe what has been done and were we are going exactly. I wrote a b

[MacRuby-devel] branches/experimental

2009-03-28 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Hi guys, As some of you already noticed we have been working on a branch for a few weeks and I thought it's now time to describe what has been done and were we are going exactly. I wrote a blog entry here: http://www.macruby.org/blog/2009/03/28/experimental-branch.html 2 big features in t