Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-04-06 Thread Laurent Sansonetti
Hi Bryan, I see that many people responded to that thread, but I would like to still add the following points: 1) MacRuby can't be used for iOS programming at this time. 2) In order to fully program in Objective-C, you must know C first. If you're a seasoned C programmer, picking Objective-C s

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-31 Thread Bryan Harrison
Forgive me for not saying "thanks" individually, but you've all been so generous with your time and thoughts that doing so would clutter up the list. ;) If anyone's curious, my immediate reaction is that I'll learn both, starting by devoting a week to each just to get a feel and figure out whi

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-31 Thread Rob Gleeson
On 31 Mar 2011, at 04:43, Bryan Harrison wrote: > I've decided to use an upcoming sabbatical to teach myself OS X and iOS > programming. My background includes OS X systems administration and web > development, mostly using the Apache/MySQL/PHP model. I'm familiar with OOP > concepts and hav

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
On Mar 30, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Bryan Harrison wrote: > So… I understand that Cocoa is a given, but today's million dollar question > is Objective-C or MacRuby? I'm a blank slate with regard to both and so > could use some good advice. For example… > > What are the advantages of MacRuby over Ob

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Morgan Schweers
Greetings, Hell, I spend most of my time in Java, and I find the objc verbosity to be...uhhh...pretty familiar. ;) Joking aside, I'll often take common ObjC patterns and 're-do' them the Ruby way so they're more efficient to the way my brain works. As an example from a recent bit of code, you hav

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Rich Morin
I'm not a MacRuby or ObjC expert, but here is my understanding. > What are the advantages of MacRuby over Objective-C? MacRuby is a variant of Ruby, so it's an interpreted, concise, dynamic language. Objective-C is a compiled language based on C (with a lot of run-time support). So, a MacRuby

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Scott Ribe
On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Terry Moore wrote: > it may just be a verbosity thing but once you get used to the Macruby style > OBJC becomes tedious. Hell, I spend most of my time in C++, and I find the ojbc verbosity to be tedious ;-) -- Scott Ribe scott_r...@elevated-dev.com http://www.elev

Re: [MacRuby-devel] Tyro Needs Ruby vs. O-C Advice

2011-03-30 Thread Terry Moore
Just a suggestion but I think having a goal will determine what you use. MacRuby will still expose you to the Cocoa libraries so you will be able to interchange with OBJC easily. The MacRuby style tho gets my vote... e.g. (OBJC) NSMutableDictionary* myDict = [[NSMutableDictionary alloc]init];