Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Oriol Gómez
Prizmo Go is the best OCR App I've seen so far. I don't care about Samsung because I've tried out their phones and didn't like them that much, besides they use old galaxy talkback, etc etc. They just want a medal for accessibility that they haven't earned. On 6/27/17, David Chittenden

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread David Chittenden
Hello, I wonder if it might encourage Apple if it is brought to their attention that the latest Samsung 8 smartphone has OCR built-in. After all, the companies do compete with each other. Until OCR is brought native, there is KNFB Reader (for a significant cost), or Prizmo Go (for no cost)

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Oriol Gómez
They didn't include OCR? Didn't you read applevis comments on accessibility feature where you can scan images to get a description and read text? Seriously guys On 6/27/17, E.T. wrote: > Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to >

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to Apple where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to pass some day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do it all. Maybe we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years from

Please Join Me in Requesting That The New Streamline User Interface, for the iOS Twitter App be Made VoiceOver Accessible.

2017-06-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, I am cross-posting this to both the V iPhone and Mac Visionaries mailing list. Recently, Twitter introduced a new, streamline, user interface in its iOS mobile app. In the latest version of Twitter Mobile for iOS, if VoiceOver is not enabled prior to launching the app, the new

Re: Playing an HTML in QuickTime and/or iTunes

2017-06-26 Thread Angus MacKinnon
Jonathan I mainly want to forward the HTML file which is a stream from a Radio Station from my ElCapitan iMac to a AirPlay Speaker. Angus MacKinnon -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. They're doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So I was

Re: Playing an HTML in QuickTime and/or iTunes

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Generally files that end in "html" are not sound files but are text based web pages. Are you trying to save a copy of a html document as verbal speech of the text? If this web page has a sound track included in it, and you want to retrieve that, then this is probably possible it is a matter

Re: Just for kicks

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Yeah the "say" command just causes the speech synthesizer to speak. The dollar left parenthesis is used to start another command line and have it placed on the same line as the current text. The end of that command is marked with a right parentheses. if you type say Hello Paul Your computer

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Perfect. Thanks for the additional info. I will see if I can duplicate it tomorrow with one of those models of iMac. I have some at work, not with the SSD, but that shouldn't make any difference. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 26, 2017, at 15:53, David Griffith

Playing an HTML in QuickTime and/or iTunes

2017-06-26 Thread Angus MacKinnon
On my El Capitan iMac, I play file:///Users/madkinnon/Downloads/Listen%20Live%20to%20Original%20106.html in Safari. Can file:///Users/madkinnon/Downloads/Listen%20Live%20to%20Original%20106.html be played in QuickTime and/or itunes? Thank you. Angus MacKinnon -- The following

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to accessibility. I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. Specifically indoor navigation with support for

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
Mary, Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply way too early to be disappointed. Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are already gearing up to

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread lenron brown
ha I still use my computer for all of my email. Just because for me it feels nicer. Hmm can't wait to check out this beta. On 6/26/17, Mary Otten wrote: > Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about > accessibility. I know they have an accessibility

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary

Re: Just for kicks

2017-06-26 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Hi, those commands announce the time and the date. God bless. Matthew Dierckens Certified Assistive Technology Specialist Macintosh, IOS and Windows Trainer JAWS for windows Certified - 2016 Canadian Phone: 519-962-9140 U.S. phone: 573-401-1018 Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com > On Jun

Re: Just for kicks

2017-06-26 Thread Sharon Hooley
I have a little background in programming, but not this much. I just want to make sure, from the rest of this group, that it is safe. If so, I’d like to try it! Thanks for sharing, > On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:50 PM, -dan d. wrote: > > > Try each of these terminal commands

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
There is always that greener grass on the other side of the fence. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail:

RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread gary-melconian
Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any

Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread Mary Otten
Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM,

Just for kicks

2017-06-26 Thread -dan d.
Try each of these terminal commands in turn. Cut and paste when in terminal and hit enter. say -v daniel $(date +"%A %m-%d") say -v daniel $(date +"%I:%M %p") Change "daniel" to a voice of your choice and do it again. XB XB -- The following information is important for all

Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread M. Taylor
CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of

Apple's iOS 11 public beta is now available - CNET

2017-06-26 Thread M. Taylor
CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM Apple's iOS 11 public beta is now available - CNET Sarah Tew/CNET It's the tenth anniversary week of the iPhone, and it's also the release of the iOS 11 public beta, which is now available. Much like last year, the public version of the beta software

RE: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread David Griffith
No I don’t think you are right here. VO is speaking perfectly normally during the first part of the install under recovery console- that is the part which works with Fred and I have no difficulties here. You only lose speech at the point when after downloading Sierra and installing the Mac

Re: Safari Busy

2017-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Sorry for the late answer. I use voiceover. I don’t know anything about how to install chromevox and have never needed to do that but i think i will try it out. /A > 22 juni 2017 kl. 23:34 skrev Mike Arrigo : > > When using chrome, do you use voiceover or chromevox? I find

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! You wil have a gadget that can power you for a quite long time. /A > 22 juni 2017 kl. 22:58 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu : > > And Scott, I am going to max it out, Maximum memory, maximum ram and may be > I won't need to change that machine for a number of years! I just want a

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
(smiling) Fred is not democratic. And if he is singing on the job... From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail:

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hey, What's your problem with Fred :)? Just because he lilts, or almost sings, what he's saying doesn't deserve such malice. Maybe he's happy with actually being chosen to talk, since he's like the kid that's always picked last. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 26,

Undocumented Commands

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
I am looking for any undocumented commands, both keyboard and braille, for iOS. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Cohn
It sounded like you were active in the session I found it quite useful for what I am working on. Thanks! . On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:40 AM David Griffith wrote: > I I am not sure if my message got through yesterday. > > > > However I have had exactly the

Re: AT launches fake 5G offering to play catch up with the rest of the carriers

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
Oh God, AT is by no means the head of anything. They are a former piece of the Bell System which was broken up in 1980 if memory serves. They are a dinosaur though of a network. Verizon which is another piece of the former Bell System has a better more advanced network as does T-Mobile which

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread lenron brown
It's awesome to have such a big display to feel i get it. They even look nice even if you have a tiny bit of vision. On 6/26/17, Scott Granados wrote: > It’s funny you mention that. My assistant is for ever wiping off my finger > prints from the screens for the same

Re: accessible VPN

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
A great way to go is to set up a server for like $5 per month and install open VPN. There are totally accessible clients for Mac, Windows, IOS and Android and you can have as many clients as you want when you run your own server with out a per seat price. Open VPN software is also totally

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
It’s funny you mention that. My assistant is for ever wiping off my finger prints from the screens for the same reason. The new televisions I bought are like a work of art and with the stands it’s like this big 75 inch piece of glass hanging in the air. It feels sort of like an iPhone bug 75

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread E.T.
I too experience this at every installation and have always been able to use the standard VO commands to change speech settings. The only problem I have is with Fred. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
You tell em Kare. As a former Mercedes, Ferrari and Roller owner, they fit just fine thank you.:). Actually, I don’t fit just fine in the Ferrari, I’m 6-6 and my head stuck out the top. > On Jun 23, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I must agree, > after

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
First off, in the UK it’s probably even higher because of the exchange rates and importation taxes. Secondly, this sounds like a whole glass of hater aid to me. Some of us really could justify such a machine and we’re blind so I take offense to that statement. We who do things like network

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi David, Your assertion that it has nothing to do with muting or volume level is not necessarily valid. The base system that is part of the installers and the Recovery system accesses resources differently than the regular MacOS. So, if VO is behaving normally after the installation has

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
You know it’s not all about the blind user, that blind user probably has sited colleagues who would benefit. I just bought a pile of 4K televisions because they were accessible and because the sited folks around the house use the 4K side of things. > On Jun 23, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Simon Fogarty

Re: I Mac Pro.

2017-06-26 Thread Scott Granados
I bet you’re tough as nails in the work place.:) I like the iMac pro idea myself. We will see what the rest of the year brings. I’m mostly using laptops these days but the idea of a nice powerful desktop is attractive. > On Jun 23, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu

Re: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Simon, Thanks for the confirmation. Yes, you are right, the PRAM reset should bring back sound as it is putting things back to defaults, which includes the sound level. I've used that method on occasion as well. My method of modifying the system volume with the VO-cmd-left three times

RE: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread David Griffith
I I am not sure if my message got through yesterday. However I have had exactly the same issue on my iMac with installing Sierra. I have installed loads of OS versions before without issue before coming up against this accessibility barrier. Voiceover only comes to life after the

RE: When Ejecting is Dimmed

2017-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
When you go to eject the USB highlight the USB device and then hold down the command key and hit E then wait a couple of sends and then when you can't see the USB device or volume you can pull it out. If there is more than one volume then you might get a prompt which will contain the

RE: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
No things haven’t changed in this situation Volume doesn’t change in this situation. However carry out the P R A M reset and I’d garunty that you’ll get vo back during installations. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent:

RE: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Tim, I didn't think the volume worked when using voiceover in the installation I've never been able to get it to increase in volume. Also the alert tones seems to play a part in this. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]

RE: Installer not talking on my iMac

2017-06-26 Thread Simon Fogarty
Question, Does your iMac give the start up tones when you turn it on? Answr if no start up tones you wont get voiceover talking to you during the installation, So turn the machine off completely then do a PRAM reset, That's hold down the keys command, option letter R and the letter p then